ryuan
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On the kid? He's as much a victim of his parents as Harry, even if he's an asshole victim.
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I'm aware. That doesn't mean that the lesson is any less poignant, though.
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"Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him."
Dudly might be a victim (an asshole one) of his parents pampering, but this punishment is saving him from much misery later in life by teaching him valuable life lessons about not being an asshole.
I, uh, got that the first time. Is there a reason you replied three times? I take it that wasn't intended?
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I think we should make amend with Dudley,this verse maybe not have convenient dementor to improve our relationship with each other.
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Is he actually good at chess though? So what he easily and consistently wrecks a bunch of other kids at the game and he beat Mcgonagall's chess set- which still doesn't seem that impressive.. that's like beating a computer on easy at chess.
Did you read the books? Yes, he is that good at chess and he isn0t that bad in his studies.
Mcgonagall would not have set that thing on Easy. It was a anti-Dark Wizard defense.
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Thing is, all the defenses were easily bypassed by first years. That implies that Dumbledore WANTED people to get to the Stone. It is likely that the whole setup was a trap to see who was going for the stone so that they could find the mole in Hogwarts.
The fact that it worked at all is pretty much authorial fiat. There are pretty much dozens of ways one could get around it. For instance, I imagine just using the Reductor Curse on the pieces would have destroyed them, rendering them useless. Unless there's some mechanism by which actually forces the intruder to play the game, it really isn't a good defense.
That is a nice theory but they had no way of knowing there was a mole in Hogwarts at the beginning of the year.
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It makes more sense than a bunch of traps that could be bypassed with spells available to a fully trained wizard.
Besides I bet dumbledore suspected there was a mole at the beginning. He knew enough to grab the stone before the break in at gringotts, he must have known that the thieves would try again at hogwarts.
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Actually it makes all of zero sense because it would be guarding against a threat no one knew was there. Now it might have been designed as a delaying tactic but not specifically against a mole.
And there is no proof a grown wizard could have bypassed the black flames for instance or been able to counteract the poison if s/he drank it.
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KnightofTempest
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I bet dumbledore suspected there was a mole at the beginning. He knew enough to grab the stone before the break in at gringotts, he must have known that the thieves would try again at hogwarts.
That is likely suspicion of a potential other attempt not specifically a mole.
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Except the Hogwarts wards would have stopped a full on thief, meaning the only way to get it would be to have a man on the inside, hence a mole.
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Besides, the board of governers had deatheaters on it since before the books. Dumbledore also knew Voldemort could return. Dumbledore is a chessmaster, it's not impossible that the death eaters could have placed a mole in hogwarts, so he planned for that eventuality.
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Well, that's like, just your opinion, man.
What are you basing this on?
How exactly?
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I'm basing this on the plot of Chamber of Secrets, where the board of governers has lucious malfoy on it, and the fact that the Hogwarts Wards are shown to be capable of keeping entire armies out of the school in Deathly Hallows.
Besides it makes more sense than the inconsistent bullshit Rowling Explicitly shows.
So your headcanon. That is not to say it is not good headcanon but it is nonetheless not something you should be presenting as established fact.
The traps were esasy because Dumbledore made them that way, the really difficult part was the mirror of Erised. If Harry didn't barge in Voldemort/Quirrel would never have seen the stone.
Of course Dumbledore had been tacitly encouraging Harry to break school rules all year and he shown the boy how the mirror worked...
Please, don't start with the cliché Manipulative Dumbledore, it's bad, very bad.
Why does everyone think I am starting with Evil!Dumbeldore when I am simply pointing out that the man was bad at his job.