Yes the people of Avernus and planet mind was ok with it or He who walks oblique told us it was and the Lizardmen everyone was ok with it.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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[X] Plan: Crimson Hunter Colonies?
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- Leicester UK
I'm massively against trying to get a pet space marine chapter, it's just hoarding power for Avernus, it's massively expensive, any chapter that relies on us 100% for resources is de facto controlled by us and that will be an issue for the other governors and there is no pressing need for Avernus to have such massive influence over traditionally independent astartes.
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You outright said that it would take 5-10 actions which means that at the least that it would take 5 in game years and that was before the seer council, which is around the actions we use to even get a favor from the Eldar in the first place. You say that Rids need them to divine more important things and that's my problem with that justification. You say it's important that we get faster warp travel because it would let the sane side deal with chaos forces much more easily but are willing to let it go to waste because it would benefit us more right away.
Meaning that you seem to be pretty much saying that it's pretty much fine that to risk screwing over all the sides of sanity because we just can't wait to clear up DN because it's better to benefit us personally than everyone else. Which I think is bull since we need to think of the big picture instead of being too obsessed with thinking inside the Trust.
And yes we can in fact deal with clearing up the DN on our own and in fact even just use a favor. We don't need to rush right away. But we do need more faster ways of warp travel because it's a major disadvantage for us and risking one such way for little reason is a huge mistake considering how that turned out for us by not getting Lancre to us far earlier which cost not just us but the rest of the sane people of the galaxy,
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Also Crimson Crusaders likely would be terrible on a planet, due to their luck and massive attrition rates.
5-10 greater divination for Ridicully . That will take him decades to do . No other way to clean dragon's nest other than 2 eldar favors or Ridicully doing 5-10 greater divinations.
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[x] Plan Invest in the future
Other than the thing with the Crimson Crusaders, I like this plan.
Other than the thing with the Crimson Crusaders, I like this plan.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
I've changed things to add the spending of minor favours.
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- United states
Again, that doesn't take into account having a seer council and working with the Eldar with using just one favor at the time which would leave us with one favor to use on the Lancre remains.
Actually it does. The seer council will only be around when Ridicully divines stuff and the seer council gives a 10-20 bonus to Ridicully. It is essentially a free double down.
Also you keep ignoring that it will take 2 favors to clear dragon's nest. Durin told us it will take 2 minor eldar favor to cleanse dragon's nest because of the size of it. The point of cleansing dragon's nest at once is so we deal with all the spies at once not giving any other potential spies to run off or spread to previous cleansed worlds.
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But you haven't answered if having Ridcully work with the Eldar with just one favor would change factors. Nor if it would actually be more beneficial to everyone if we risk faster warp travel.
As I keep pointing out, we don't actually need to rush things with the DN, it would just be nice for us, and they could in fact be dealt with in time.
That is still multiple divinations from Ridicully to clear dragons nest when we have frankly more important galatic events to divine. C'tan, Chaos plans, honor codes from the Necrons, Dark Imperium plans, Deciever plans, help with the ritual assault or the rescue Isha.
we do need to rush things with DN since we are about to become one polity and if we don't clear out dragon's nest that is a possibility of spies getting into the trust. Also we have to fear tech theft from spies if we do not take them out.
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As I keep pointing out faster warp travel is also a huge factor that would give the sane side of the galaxy a huge boost against other enemies since one of the main factors against them/us is that chaos has faster travel time. And if our tech getting stolen is a problem because it affects things on a wide scale then so does warp travel. Hence using a favor to get faster warp travel along with using some of Rids time is just as important divining other threats which Rids can still do. And once again if it only costs Rids say 2-5 actions than I say it is worth it in that it helps everyone out immensely.
Which is why I am using a major favor to get eldar warp engines. Lancre psyker techniques have a unknown amount of speed increase and they have a 73 percent chance of getting here. Also Lancre psyker techniques apparently bleed psykers using which makes them less valuable to me since they kill psykers for prolong use.[/QUOTE]
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But we would likely be able to improve upon the technique by combining it with our own knowledge like how we used runes to create our own improved Blackships using the Imperium designs. Durin himself said that it would give us a huge boost to our psyker knowledge and Avernus is the premier research institute for most human warp/psyker knowledge.
Even with a 73 percent chance that seems like too much of a gamble considering that the last time we gambled. And again, if say we can limit Rids time to less than a decade or even say 3-5 years in story than I am not seeing a reason we shouldn't go for it. We aren't strangers to compromise after all.
There are ok with it that was already asked in discord.
@Doomed Wombat update your plan when you get a chance.
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Huh that's surprising, I wouldn't think that honestly.