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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 592 80.3%

  • No

    Votes: 145 19.7%
  • Total voters
    737
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HanEmpire said:
This option fits us perfectly. Avernus is the one world that needs a Fuhrer Bradley.
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Oh hey and what's this:
Execute/Dumbo said:
Honestly I'm partial to the Jane school of getting good potential inheritors- track down a talented orphan and adopt them.

Admittedly this is a lot harder when looking for martial talent than clmbat talent, since you can't really be accidentally pushed into a situation where you need to command an army as a child, but we have an advantage most worlds don't, aka fucktons of psykers and Ridcully, the best mortal diviner in the galaxy.

Upon askig Durin, an average roll done by Ridcully to sniff out the 'best' adoptable martial candidate would leave us with a list in the thousands. Not great, but that's a low enough number we can either do another divination to narrow down the numbers further, or just take those thousands and work through their rough levels of skill via Gladatoria-based command training. Although it takes up so much energy we can't do this in bulk, we could probably work through the list in a decade or two, or if we're willing to get potentially suboptimal picks, we can randomly select 100 from the list to start with.

Once that's done with, we pick the best candidate, adopt them as a Rotbart, and focus on tutoring them until they're worthy of the name. Optimally speaking we then take that list and offer every kid who's willing a position in a military school because they'd still be talented for the job, but that's optional.

Avernus is a world dedicated to making weapons. As people on that world, we shouldn't forget the potential of any of them, because if they've survived till now, they have something to them. And hey, being relatives by adoption is more than commonplace on Avernus, it's practically assumed you'll have a blood-bond or two, even for Rotbart, Jane's essentially his sister.

The main drawback is pretty obvious, of course. That being that Ridcully's time is incredibly valuable, so we'd always be sacrificing a little to maximise our potential successor's abilities.
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Enders Game, Enders Game, Enders Game!
 
Well, Avernite Gubernatorial Admnistratum School exchange program will be interesting:
"Wait, we were told the students we were going to get are from the Admnistratum!"
"Yeah"
"Them why are we getting a bunch of Officers from the Schola Progenium them?"
"Erm, in Avernus, you sometimes, have to literally fight with the paperwork"
"...okay..."
*calls the inquisition*
 
Malevolo said:
Well, Avernite Gubernatorial Admnistratum School exchange program will be interesting:
"Wait, we were told the students we were going to get are from the Admnistratum!"
"Yeah"
"Them why are we getting a bunch of Officers from the Schola Progenium them?"
"Erm, in Avernus, you sometimes, have to literally fight with the paperwork"
"...okay..."
*calls the inquisition*
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"Nope, thats actually perfectly normal for Avernus. I take it they haven't mentioned the pens that drain your lifeforce yet?"
 
Malevolo said:
Except if the Tzeentch is muddling Ridcully view on Arhra, to make him focus on Arhra and not on other things that might be running on the background.
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If we look into Arha, he was a distraction all along, if we don't it was a double bluff. That's how Tzeentch works. It has so many plans that things are always progressing according to at least one of them. Every loss or victory is a step in a plan. That does not mean you can't beat it mind, but it always has schemes in motion the way Nurgle always has plagues out there.
 
Durin said:
The Administratum is of the belief that your should select a group of gifted youths and train them as potential successors with those that do not make the cut finding other positions in a similar way to the Last Hunters. This would allow you to have a well rounded and gifted successor, but not a hugely experienced one.
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Oh, hey. I like this idea. A kickass schola that's designed to produce future leaders of Avernus.
 
mmm we have 50 years of time skip...lets stick this out here, what stuff are people interested in Tranth doing either as a fundamental or a research project...
 
Titan fundamentals, Power Armor fundamentals, maybe see what he can make of Reavers to complete the titan set, that kind of stuff probably.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
mmm we have 50 years of time skip...lets stick this out here, what stuff are people interested in Tranth doing either as a fundamental or a research project...
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Do the Cogitators fundamentals, see if Ordinatus limits can be loosened a little. Do Warp Travel, since that's boosted by Dark Age theorems, if possible maybe basic Genetics then move into Warp genetics to Navigator genetics, though those aren't boosted by Theorems so it'll be tougher.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
mmm we have 50 years of time skip...lets stick this out here, what stuff are people interested in Tranth doing either as a fundamental or a research project...
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I'm big on doing the AM/EM/RM fundamentals. Cogitators are also potentially pretty good... I wonder if he could do fundamentals one Men of Stone since he's got the STC for it? He doesn't actually have one to work with, but maybe he can check it out anyways? Actually Shipyard construction would probably be extremely beneficial too...
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
The sooner we get the titan designs the sooner we get our own Titan Legion...

And as the War against the Tyranids showed us we need our titan legion...
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We have what we need set up and are making battle titans, leave this one to the people that specialise in titans so we can expand our economy and then effectively expand our facilities.

Grump grump.
 
I think we should do juvenat fundamentals. If we can move up to the relic material version of juvenat, then that would extend the lives of several companions and heroes of the trust with hard to replace capacities.
 
Fanhunter696 said:
We are specialized in ground Warfare so Titans should be our specialty
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I guess astartes too should be our speciality?

Titans are not part of our military they likely never will be and we cannot specialize into them without penalizing what we are already good at, cause they're super expensive.

We're not Callamus of the 200 titan legions, leave the titans to the experts and let us focus on what we do well.
 
Fanhunter696 said:
We are specialized in ground Warfare so Titans should be our specialty
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That's... not how it works at all.
Specialisations are not that broad, we can't just invest into everything ground-based, Callamus is the one who focuses on Titans, and they have all our research! They'll produce them better and faster! We can't specialise into something orthagonal to Avernus's speciality because we'll be ignoring our largest research advantage in psytech to focus on the new shinies every other few turns.
 
Execute/Dumbo said:
That's... not how it works at all.
Specialisations are not that broad, we can't just invest into everything ground-based, Callamus is the one who focuses on Titans, and they have all our research! They'll produce them better and faster! We can't specialise into something orthagonal to Avernus's speciality because we'll be ignoring our largest research advantage in psytech to focus on the new shinies every other few turns.
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Doomed Wombat said:
I guess astartes too should be our speciality?

Titans are not part of our military they likely never will be and we cannot specialize into them without penalizing what we are already good at, cause they're super expensive.

We're not Callamus of the 200 titan legions, leave the titans to the experts and let us focus on what we do well.
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The fact that Callamus Specialize in Titans doesn´t mean that the Imperial trust doesn´t need his own Titan Legion...

And as a bonus, Tranth always gains a trait when he completes a full set of designs/ugrades, and they tend to be pretty OP...
 
Fanhunter696 said:
The fact that Callamus Specialize in Titans doesn´t mean that the Imperial trust doesn´t need his own Titan Legion...

And as a bonus, Tranth always gains a trait when he completes a full set of designs/ugrades, and they tend to be pretty OP...
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We need our own titan legion, we have the important parts for that, battle titans and scout titans, that is the bread and butter all you need for one.

He's already got a titan trait, I doubt he's going to be upgrading it...and no he doesn't. The only time that's happened is armourer and titan smith due to it being a large trait that got him a paragon. Durin likely rolls, but its far too low a chance for us to spend decades of his time on.
 
Since when does building some infrastructure and doing some research equate to "specializing in something"? And why WOULDN'T we want titans on the planet with giant hostile megafauna, especially when almost everybody we fight has had Titans?
 
Ulrad said:
Since when does building some infrastructure and doing some research equate to "specializing in something"? And why WOULDN'T we want titans on the planet with giant hostile megafauna, especially when almost everybody we fight has had Titans?
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Because doing those things takes time and resources away from other stuff we could've been doing. That free slot used to build a titan manufactorum could've been used on Biologis research, for example. Tranth could've used that time to get a few more fundamentals done.
 
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