The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
I presume divining them to see if there's anything we can do to help out.

For example sending out an escort to ensure they get here is now something that is actually viable.
That sounds like something we have to ask the high council for permission to do, the escort part. Since we would be taking in refugees and that is part of the high council directive.
 
That sounds like something we have to ask the high council for permission to do, the escort part. Since we would be taking in refugees and that is part of the high council directive.
I'm sure we can send a message to the council of "interesting and useful people incoming please let us send peeps."
 
I'm sure we can send a message to the council of "interesting and useful people incoming please let us send peeps."
I will bring it up in the high council meeting but I rather focus on the Galaxy threats and Finding Lion these turn. We really need more information about the rituals and if we can stop it or not. Because if we can than that is great for us if we can't than we should push to help the Eldar to rescue Isha. Also I would like to get the Lion back into contact with his brothers and tell him of the threats we know about and he has no ideas about.
 
I will bring it up in the high council meeting but I rather focus on the Galaxy threats and Finding Lion these turn. We really need more information about the rituals and if we can stop it or not. Because if we can than that is great for us if we can't than we should push to help the Eldar to rescue Isha. Also I would like to get the Lion back into contact with his brothers and tell him of the threats we know about and he has no ideas about.
We can't bring up something we don't have concrete information on, but yes I do agree.

And I'm still against the Lion, let him and the assassins be they got shit to do.
 
So have the Eldar been informed about the grand chaos ritual? Because even if they can't interfere seems like they could at least use the opportunity to try to break out Isha.

I am with @Enjou , both Fred's and Syr's marriage had heavy political implications.

A "the heir must be confirmed by the previous Council" sort of deal should work fine, or maybe a probationary deal.

Of course, my preferred outcome is for Rotbart to never die, our biomancers aren't that far off being able to de-age people, are they?

Could always look for Eldar biomancers, too.
I agree that a compromise seems best. Even if Tormod doesn't want to be the heir Rotbart still made a deal and would seem like a dick if he didn't at least try to come to a compromise well everyone else involved is fine with.
 
We can't bring up something we don't have concrete information on, but yes I do agree.

And I'm still against the Lion, let him and the assassins be they got shit to do.
For the thousandth time divining the Lion is not blowing his cover. If Ridcully's divinations have been compromised we already basically broke the Galaxy.

Find the Lion and pass it on to Vulkan. I trust him to make the call.
 
I made still surprised just how surprised some of you are that Tormod does not like the monarchal system of ruler ship. It is objectively a terrible system mid to long term as you always end up with and idiot/monster who only got the job because he was the heir. Any system where sheer luck is one of the main determining factors in who rules the country is going to end in disaster. You always get a 1 eventually.

Yeah, but it's a system that would benefit Tormod himself enormously.

I figured he'd have a basic human ambition level of wanting to be in charge and knowing he's got the chops to do the job, so why not? Who expected him to be so selfless and all, "Oh, we must do what's best for Avernus and never mind that it strips me of an easy path to power and prestige."

Get selfish, Tormod! Look out for number one first and then all the airy idealistic stuff second. (Number one is you, Tormod. You're number one.) Think about the welfare of your own descendants.
 
I will bring it up in the high council meeting but I rather focus on the Galaxy threats and Finding Lion these turn. We really need more information about the rituals and if we can stop it or not. Because if we can than that is great for us if we can't than we should push to help the Eldar to rescue Isha. Also I would like to get the Lion back into contact with his brothers and tell him of the threats we know about and he has no ideas about.
For the last time we can't. If the QM gave OOC information for an event that was planned for ages than odds are more than likely that they only told you so because you couldn't stop it. And honestly abusing OOC info too much just makes it way more likely that the QM stops giving OOC info because players have been abusing them too much.

We should focus on the positives like we may be able to at least disrupt and weaken the ritual or even free Isha thanks to the opportunity which would give us a major Eldar god on our side.
 
Archmagos Tranth gains trait Clear-sighted (+3L, +3P, +1 to all stats, can think without any cognitive bias)- One of Archmagos Tranth's greatest gifts is his ability to put aside his cognitive biases and see the world as it truly is.
Honestly, when I read it, it struck me as "oh my god Tranth you became a true scientist!" rather than "oh god Tranth! You got corrupted by the baddies!".
I mean, his paragon trait is literally called "The Scientist". It fits for his uber crit to push him further in that direction.
Unless Dragon got a hold of his mind, somehow.

Also, this trait reminds me strongly of Turoq, since it's something like a non-chaotic, mechanicus version of stuff he got.
 
So have the Eldar been informed about the grand chaos ritual? Because even if they can't interfere seems like they could at least use the opportunity to try to break out Isha.
They've been informed and the problem is that if they go for Isha they likely won't be able to damage the ritual.

For the last time we can't. If the QM gave OOC information for an event that was planned for ages than odds are more than likely that they only told you so because you couldn't stop it. And honestly abusing OOC info too much just makes it way more likely that the QM stops giving OOC info because players have been abusing them too much.

We should focus on the positives like we may be able to at least disrupt and weaken the ritual or even free Isha thanks to the opportunity which would give us a major Eldar god on our side.
No this is the accurate assessment of the Eldar and Rotbart, nobody is left with the forces to stop the ritual that died with the Imperium, its got too much momentum in it.

They think they might be able to make it less damaging or they can make a play for Isha.

The only peeps left who might be able to stop it dead are the Necrons.

For the thousandth time divining the Lion is not blowing his cover. If Ridcully's divinations have been compromised we already basically broke the Galaxy.

Find the Lion and pass it on to Vulkan. I trust him to make the call.
Certainly feels like it since he's been hiding so well based on literally nobody knowing where he is or even that he's alive, its a level of absolute secrecy I don't feel like busting.
 
For the last time we can't. If the QM gave OOC information for an event that was planned for ages than odds are more than likely that they only told you so because you couldn't stop it. And honestly abusing OOC info too much just makes it way more likely that the QM stops giving OOC info because players have been abusing them too much.

We should focus on the positives like we may be able to at least disrupt and weaken the ritual or even free Isha thanks to the opportunity which would give us a major Eldar god on our side.
It is done in stages so it has happen is happening and will happen. We don't have enough information about what will happen or when it will happen. There is also a small chance that they can weaken and a even smaller chance to stop it. But knowing when it will happen would also be a great time to rescue Isha since most of chaos will be distracted.
 
It is done in stages so it has happen is happening and will happen. We don't have enough information about what will happen or when it will happen. There is also a small chance that they can weaken and a even smaller chance to stop it. But knowing when it will happen would also be a great time to rescue Isha since most of chaos will be distracted.
To add to this chaos will also likely be distracted by the combined Dragon, Necron return and if the Eldar are desperate they have a one off way of making Gork and Mork go for Chaos's neck.

There's a lot of ways to turn this into an absolute headache for chaos.
 
They've been informed and the problem is that if they go for Isha they likely won't be able to damage the ritual.


No this is the accurate assessment of the Eldar and Rotbart, nobody is left with the forces to stop the ritual that died with the Imperium, its got too much momentum in it.

They think they might be able to make it less damaging or they can make a play for Isha.

The only peeps left who might be able to stop it dead are the Necrons.


Certainly feels like it since he's been hiding so well based on literally nobody knowing where he is or even that he's alive, its a level of absolute secrecy I don't feel like busting.
Feels like it is nowhere near the same as is. Like at all. Given we already share divinations with our allies (read: Eldar and Quartus) they both almost certainly know he is up and at 'em. So by your very odd definition it already has been "busted".
 
Feels like it is nowhere near the same as is. Like at all. Given we already share divinations with our allies (read: Eldar and Quartus) they both almost certainly know he is up and at 'em. So by your very odd definition it already has been "busted".
He's awake and with someone who can hide him from Rids.

I'd rather not break that more or put rids in contest with someone able to do that.
 
He's awake and with someone who can hide him from Rids.

I'd rather not break that more or put rids in contest with someone able to do that.
He has someone that could hid him from a very general divination like three power ups ago, let's be honest here.

The Dragon is about to be free and Vulkan needs all the brothers he can get. I trust Vulkan to make the right call regarding fetching the Lion or not.
 
I think the concern with Lion is that the more people in the know about where he is, the more likely one of those people will turn out to be an enemy spy. So we need to be very careful about the couriers we're using to deliver this information, or maybe even have authorized high-level personnel (ie Klovis-Ultan, Primarchs, etc) talk it through in person.
 
I think the concern with Lion is that the more people in the know about where he is, the more likely one of those people will turn out to be an enemy spy. So we need to be very careful about the couriers we're using to deliver this information, or maybe even have authorized high-level personnel (ie Klovis-Ultan, Primarchs, etc) talk it through in person.
Seeing as how Ridcully's divinations aren't leaking like a sieve I safely contend that we have a way (data jewels) to pass along highly sensitive information.
 
Also, can we GD Arhra sometime either this or next turn? It ties up a dangerous loose end, and we get a full minor favor if we get info with that single GD, and a full major favor if the GD lets the Eldar catch him.
 
Yeah, but it's a system that would benefit Tormod himself enormously.

I figured he'd have a basic human ambition level of wanting to be in charge and knowing he's got the chops to do the job, so why not? Who expected him to be so selfless and all, "Oh, we must do what's best for Avernus and never mind that it strips me of an easy path to power and prestige."

Get selfish, Tormod! Look out for number one first and then all the airy idealistic stuff second. (Number one is you, Tormod. You're number one.) Think about the welfare of your own descendants.

Avernus would beat such desires out of anyone. You have to work together and listen to those who know best regardless of what you may desire.
 
Munitorum [2 Years]
Slot A:
Y2: Recruit: Helguard

Void Command
Slot A
Y1: Combine Shipyards: Gargantuan
MAay expedite depending on cost

Adminstratum [3 Years]
Slot A
Y1: Expand (City) to Small Hive
Slot B
Y3: Expand (City) to Small Hive



Diplomacy [5 Years]
Y1:New Lord-Marshal of the Aesir
Y2: ear to ground
Y3: Siren Trade
Y4:

Keep off the more extreme xeno options


Arbites [5 Years,]
Slot A
Y1: Counter intelligence
Y2-5: Greater Psyker Hunting

Mechanicus
Slot A - Explorator
Y3: Fundamentals of Titan Construction


Slot B - Any, Fabricator-General
Y1: Another
Y2: Multiyear automate mobile research facility
SLot Any
Y3: Cathedral of the Machine-God: Annwn


Telepathica [6 Years - Ridcully, 6 Years - Xavier, 2 Years - Tamia]

Slot A - Ridcully
Y3: Greater Divination (Chaos Ritual Details)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3 PLUS FREE DIVINATION FOR TRIPLE DOWN
Y4: Greater Divination (Location Of Lion El' Jonson)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
Y5: Focus Divination Conservative admech

Slot B - Tamia
Y3: Implement (Siren Rune that is not done)
Y5: Anti-Blood God Powers: Countering
- - DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
Slot C - Aria
Y2: Create Psyker Order ( Bloom Bees)

Personal

Slot A
Y1: Power-Armoured PDF: Shocktroopers
SLot B
Y2: Construction Expertise (Expand and downgrade Forge-Hive: Erecura ) – Your Vizier Rosalinda Orlov is a highly skilled architect and can oversee any major construction projects that the Administratum handles. This should be a good way to keep the expansions of your cities progressing.

Time: as project
Cost: free.
Reward: do one Adeptus Administratum, construction project with your characteristic bonus and traits

Slot C
Y1: Go Somewhere to grieve for SYR your beloved Daughter
Y2-4:
Y5: Sit Down and Talk with your Grandosn ( Come up with good write in)
[] Plan Shard 140

Munitorum (3 Years)

Slot A
Y3: Recruit: Helguard

I am appalled this didn't get done last turn. As in this is a necessary action, not a shiny-type action.

Void Command (5 Years)

Slot A:
Y1: Combine Shipyards: Gargantuan

Convenient. (Note: We also need to do Void Defense Balance at some point)

Adminstratum (5 Years, 3 Years)

Slot A
Y1: Expand to Small Hive (Mirkwood)
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 1
Slot B
Y3: Expand to Small Hive (Asmat)
-- EXPEDITE YEAR 3

Diplomacy (4 Years)

Y2: New Lord-Marshal of the Aesir
Y3-?: Ear to the Ground (DN's merger)
-- REPEAT UNTIL All suggestions gotten.
Y?: Siren Trade (Trade Soul-Credits for Runelords Training & City Warding)

Arbites (5 Years)
Y1-Y5: Greater Psyker Hunting
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1

Mechanicus

Explorator (1 Year)
IF Psychic Cannons failed: Repeat.
IF there is a followup-action to Psychic Cannon: Do that action instead.
Y5: Personal Void Shields
- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5

Fabricator-General (3 Years)
Y3: Another
Y4: Automate the Another action

Free
Y1: Large Titan Manufactorum

Telepathica


Ridcully (3 Years)
Y3: Greater Divination (Mechanicus Civil War)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
Y4: Greater Divination (Alpha Legion Infiltrators)*
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
Y5: Research: Black Crystal Bracers

Tamia (4 Years)
Y2: Research (Bloom Bees)
Y3: Bloom Bees

Aria (4 Years)
Y2: Expand Psyker Quarters: All

Free Greater Divination
Y?: Greater Divination (Nature of the Destroyer)

* Might interfere with Klovis' grand plot.

Personal (5 Years, 5 Years, 3 Years)
Slot A:
Y1-Y4: Gubernaturial Succession: Sound Out (Asgard, Byzantium, Muspelheim, Midgard in that order)
Y5: Mending the Relationship (Tormod)

Slot B:
Y1: Personal Attention (Bolehs Spider Packs: Guilds)

Slot C:
Y3: Construction Expertise (Administration Assistance: Expand and downgrade Forge-Hive: Erecura )

Feel free to copy the plan, but please credit me if you do.


Ok, just as a public service, here are the two plans in one post for easy comparisons. if this post is older than a few days, I suggest looking at the posts themselves to see if there have been any changes.
 
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