Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Avernus provides something like 40% last I checked, number goes down every turn and will take a large drop when the Black Arks come online.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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- Location
- Africa
both martial and admin can be taught by Rotbrat as the only reason they are so low is cause Jacob never really needed to develop them also Jacob has a positive modifier to gaining new traits
- Location
- Canada
The fact that so many posters seem to have a CK2 stats-oriented mindset is honestly pretty depressing. I get it, we want to maximize our chances for the best heir we got. But can we not start, y'know, going the full emotionless min-maxing inhuman Tormod accused us of being? Like, we can wait and see if we can patch up our relationship, see how things develop. Not like planning for our death now would even help, considering if we die next turn we still wouldn't have done anything for our heir. Just lay off for a bit, you know? Try and humanize our PC.
- Location
- Leeds
Sorry, I was trying to say, "I don't think this is worth discussing as I don't know the WoG quotes and that is what I'd probably require to convince me, as you didn't provide them when counterquoting me, I assume you don't have them either, therefore until a third party offers them this won't be productive."
Do not feel oblidged to reply to this.
sabreFather
Dr Pepper is the flavour that I savour
- Location
- Land of Bears and Loggers AKA Oregon
That does not change the fact that we have not even asked Jacob if he was willing to become our heir, which he must agree to before we go tutoring him. Just randomly declaring someone to be our heir without actually checking their suitability IN UNIVERSE is stupid.
In summation, the people we should be grooming for Governorship are those actually fucking willing to become Governor. Not random fucks who have no interest or outright admit they are unsuitable for the fucking job.
EDIT: Tormod and Jacob are both on the shortlist based purely on stats, but stats are still generalized. Despite his high Intrigue Jacob is a poor replacement for Jane due to his specialty being in small groups, not operating the massive apparatus that is the Avernus Arbites. And unless our replacement has Martial in the high 40s we would be downgraded in our actual control of our military.
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- Location
- Africa
can you add asking Jacob if he wants to our heir and be groomed for the position during Y2 maybe ?
The Titan Manufactorum seems to be able to be upgraded directly, as opposed to having to build multiple new ones. At least, that's what I got out of the finish text for it. " While it is currently only able to build a pair of Warlords every century, a rate that will take far to long to become relevant, now that a Titan Manufactorum exists further expanding it will be far easier. " That seems to suggest we can make it produce titans at a much better rate, way easier than getting it started in the first place. Not sure if we can increase the speed a specific titan gets built, or if its just how many are getting built at once though. Probably will need a Tranth study action on Titans and Titan Manufactorums to get faster build times.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
as things are you can only increase the number that can be built at a time, it doesnt matter if you have a Small Titan Manufactorum making one at a time or a Gargantuan Titan Manufactorum making 64, each Warlord will still take 50 years
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
- Location
- Australia
That super amazing person was the Champion of Avernus, which if I had to guess is one step above Jacob's current title. We should really check out the new Champion of Avernus if they're good enough that Jacob doesn't have that title yet.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
The post is currently empty, it's last holder was killed by the first circle and there has not been a sufficiently deadly replacement yet
- Location
- Leeds
Did this guy out killy Jane and Jacob or Jane is in the wrong job and Jacob hasn't proven himself enough?
- Location
- Australia
Damn that's a high bar, and makes me wish we could've seen a Champion of Avernus even more.
- Location
- United states
Normally I'd agree with the QM but should point out that we are talking about being the governor of Avernus AKA the deadliest non Daemon World in existence where even people with good combat stats routinely die. There is a reason that whenever marriage options showed up that we also took combat stats into consideration.
We need to do more Person of Interest actions.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Tis unfortunate that its now in one of the most contested action areas in the thread
Also straw poll
Me
1. Hypothetical at this stage, but do the Eldar think that the combined chaos of the Dragon's emergence and chaos's preparations for the ritual maybe sufficiently distracting for them to make a play for Isha if they throw even more fuel on the fire?
2. Did the Eldar in their talk with the AO mention Isha and ask if he was interested in freeing her potentially?
Durin
4? Could they combine the two? The AO backed up by the Phoenix Avatars and the like uninvolved in the mission etc. make a big play against the ritual, really advertise their presence draw the god's attention etc. while the infiltration team go in and make a play for Isha as the God's are distracted going for the eternal enemy?
5. Do the Eldar think if they really needed too they could get Gork and Mork gunning for chaos?
Durin
1. they might be, the issue is that an attempt to free isha would interfere with an attempt to disrupt the ritual, as while they do not think that they cans top it weakening it is on the cards
2. they did, he is willing to help with the distractions but is to well known to help with the freeing her part. The internal enemy of Chaos can not sneak into the domains of a Chaos God without causing all sorts of alarms to go off. Possibly even alarms in the other gods realms so they can help, he is hated enough for the Chaos gods to work together for the chance to kill him
4. they could try, though any real plans to go fir the ritual need stealth due to its defenes
5. probebly, they could only do it once though
These are some questions I asked of Durin and I'm interested in hearing what people would prioritise in this situation, Isha or disrupting the ritual?
Isha any day, she's such a game changer. The ritual will at least delay what is the bigger threat IMO, the Dragon.Tis unfortunate that its now in one of the most contested action areas in the thread
Also straw poll
Me
1. Hypothetical at this stage, but do the Eldar think that the combined chaos of the Dragon's emergence and chaos's preparations for the ritual maybe sufficiently distracting for them to make a play for Isha if they throw even more fuel on the fire?
2. Did the Eldar in their talk with the AO mention Isha and ask if he was interested in freeing her potentially?
Durin
4? Could they combine the two? The AO backed up by the Phoenix Avatars and the like uninvolved in the mission etc. make a big play against the ritual, really advertise their presence draw the god's attention etc. while the infiltration team go in and make a play for Isha as the God's are distracted going for the eternal enemy?
5. Do the Eldar think if they really needed too they could get Gork and Mork gunning for chaos?
Durin
1. they might be, the issue is that an attempt to free isha would interfere with an attempt to disrupt the ritual, as while they do not think that they cans top it weakening it is on the cards
2. they did, he is willing to help with the distractions but is to well known to help with the freeing her part. The internal enemy of Chaos can not sneak into the domains of a Chaos God without causing all sorts of alarms to go off. Possibly even alarms in the other gods realms so they can help, he is hated enough for the Chaos gods to work together for the chance to kill him
4. they could try, though any real plans to go fir the ritual need stealth due to its defenes
5. probebly, they could only do it once though
These are some questions I asked of Durin and I'm interested in hearing what people would prioritise in this situation, Isha or disrupting the ritual?
- Location
- Brazil, Minas gerais
I think combat is not all the hype for a avernite leader mostly because they can reach a lvl where they have big chance of surviving (but It is a huge number for the 'average' citizen). And after that they probably will be in the mercy of the RNGs and other stuff while trying to save themselves using their guards and the seer.
The military and administration in the other hand is something like 'the higher that it is the most resources and less dead people you get'.
The military and administration in the other hand is something like 'the higher that it is the most resources and less dead people you get'.
- Location
- United states
Actually IIRC Avernus does in fact have the highest concentration of psykers on a single planet with the numbers only growing. It's just that the Trust as a whole still has more psykers.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Unsurprisingly the population of over a trillion has more total psykers than a planet of about 20 billion fight bois.*
(20 billion on world 20 billion on moons.)
- Location
- Back in Cali
Tis unfortunate that its now in one of the most contested action areas in the thread
Also straw poll
Me
1. Hypothetical at this stage, but do the Eldar think that the combined chaos of the Dragon's emergence and chaos's preparations for the ritual maybe sufficiently distracting for them to make a play for Isha if they throw even more fuel on the fire?
2. Did the Eldar in their talk with the AO mention Isha and ask if he was interested in freeing her potentially?
Durin
4? Could they combine the two? The AO backed up by the Phoenix Avatars and the like uninvolved in the mission etc. make a big play against the ritual, really advertise their presence draw the god's attention etc. while the infiltration team go in and make a play for Isha as the God's are distracted going for the eternal enemy?
5. Do the Eldar think if they really needed too they could get Gork and Mork gunning for chaos?
Durin
1. they might be, the issue is that an attempt to free isha would interfere with an attempt to disrupt the ritual, as while they do not think that they cans top it weakening it is on the cards
2. they did, he is willing to help with the distractions but is to well known to help with the freeing her part. The internal enemy of Chaos can not sneak into the domains of a Chaos God without causing all sorts of alarms to go off. Possibly even alarms in the other gods realms so they can help, he is hated enough for the Chaos gods to work together for the chance to kill him
4. they could try, though any real plans to go fir the ritual need stealth due to its defenes
5. probebly, they could only do it once though
These are some questions I asked of Durin and I'm interested in hearing what people would prioritise in this situation, Isha or disrupting the ritual?
Hard to say. Weakening the the ritual might be better but we can't stop it so either way it will still happen. I say Isha since with the veil thinner that means gods should also get a boost. So Isha might be of greater use afterwards anyways. Plus we want to get her out as while I doubt Nurgle would use her he might if it s
Is needed.
Again we are not. People are ignoring that a good part of the thread jumped the people saying to dump Tormod both now and back when his sheet was first revealed.
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- Location
- United states
I say the ritual. This is something we really shouldn't half ass considering how much resources just disruption the ritual would be. Durin already confirmed that it's going to be needing stealth based heroes as well to disrupt it. While Isha would be nice to have she is pretty limited in ways and one of the major reasons to free her would have been to heal Guilliman which is no longer necessary and her main counter would be to Nurgle. Meanwhile this ritual would be a major boost to all of Chaos and would seriously make it harder for the sane polities as well do to rogue psykers getting even more power.Tis unfortunate that its now in one of the most contested action areas in the thread
Also straw poll
Me
1. Hypothetical at this stage, but do the Eldar think that the combined chaos of the Dragon's emergence and chaos's preparations for the ritual maybe sufficiently distracting for them to make a play for Isha if they throw even more fuel on the fire?
2. Did the Eldar in their talk with the AO mention Isha and ask if he was interested in freeing her potentially?
Durin
4? Could they combine the two? The AO backed up by the Phoenix Avatars and the like uninvolved in the mission etc. make a big play against the ritual, really advertise their presence draw the god's attention etc. while the infiltration team go in and make a play for Isha as the God's are distracted going for the eternal enemy?
5. Do the Eldar think if they really needed too they could get Gork and Mork gunning for chaos?
Durin
1. they might be, the issue is that an attempt to free isha would interfere with an attempt to disrupt the ritual, as while they do not think that they cans top it weakening it is on the cards
2. they did, he is willing to help with the distractions but is to well known to help with the freeing her part. The internal enemy of Chaos can not sneak into the domains of a Chaos God without causing all sorts of alarms to go off. Possibly even alarms in the other gods realms so they can help, he is hated enough for the Chaos gods to work together for the chance to kill him
4. they could try, though any real plans to go fir the ritual need stealth due to its defenes
5. probebly, they could only do it once though
These are some questions I asked of Durin and I'm interested in hearing what people would prioritise in this situation, Isha or disrupting the ritual?
Even if we can't stop the ritual we can at least try to weaken it and for optimum results we can't half ass things. While rare there will be other opportunities to free Isha while the ritual is happening sometime this century.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Actually the main reasons to retrive Isha are so she can
1. Resurrect the five trillion dead eldar
2. Super charge their population growth which is one of the big reasons why the Eldar can't do nearly as much as they want to.
3. Resurrect the Slann
Even back when she was needed for Guliman and Lin, those were very distant 10s on the list of reasons why the Eldar at least wanted her back.
There's other things only she can do like fixing other eldar gods, resurrecting Astartes heroes like Dante and getting Guliman back to complete 100% for example.
The ritual is complicated, but it does have 1 guaranteed positive upside, according to the AO, it'll add a century maybe 2 if we're lucky until the Dragon feels it can crush the galaxy like an ant.