The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Well, it's what basically everyone did it the old Imperium by tithing their geneseed partially. It's how each Founding gained more Space Marines.


To be fair, you are right. They do have a have a rather high attrition rate. But the Veterans that remain are rather hard to kill, all things considered.

Otherwise I don't really know what you mean with the 'most doomed' chapter? The Varangian Guard didn't really have more Space Marines than them.
there is a 3rd curse for Embers that basicaly gives people Lamenters luck
 
a bunch of people were theoryising that the curses are/will eventually build up to something.

personally I'm hoping that sanguin revives himself through the endless sacrifices his astartes have made in his name after the final curse is cured. (might need to get back the heart of sanguin or whatever that ruby was called that got stolen by a khorn deamon.)
 
there is a 3rd curse for Embers that basicaly gives people Lamenters luck

(just some optism as Lamenters are my favorite Space Marine Chapter. I like what you have written. )
On the other hand, the Lamenters survive bad luck that would of wiped out most chapters, and keep on enduring.

I think in the age of dusk, a few lamenters survived the end chapters even.

So it is bad luck, but they endure stuff that would turn even the Salamanders into something like the Purge Chaos Marines.
 
Well, no last climatic heroic battle, but winning without battle is the truest victory. For being a target of a focused Incursion with two Exalted, we did pretty good.
 
True Death! Oh this was a massive, if costly, victory.

Am a bit disappointed that our heroes did not fight the FC, both narratively and for the trait gains (could have given transcendence to some perhaps, with a lot of luck), but at least they are alive, and True Death is far more important.

The pop loss will hurt, but the losses among our elites might be harder to recover from. The biggest problem will be our psyker hunters I think, we should probably ask the Lizardman for help there, or trade with them for more of their relic shields. They seem to universally provide warp resistance, which would be massively helpful for our anti-psyker forces. Also dragons. If we could hire them, they would be absolutely incredible against many rogue psykers.

That said we have Lin for now, and our psyker hunter forces have been the strongest they have ever been before this, so with some more help from Avernus People we should be fine.

As for the bracers, I highly doubt that we get them just because he died here. That's not how high grade artifacts are treated.

Keep in mind that we have slain the previous owners and claimed our BCJ pieces personally.
 
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Will the Crusaders settle on Avernus itself? It sounds perfect for them since they'd have plenty of recruits, plenty of wargear and all the heroic battles against giant monsters, dragons, magical beings and more they could ever want.
 
Will the Crusaders settle on Avernus itself? It sounds perfect for them since they'd have plenty of recruits, plenty of wargear and all the heroic battles against giant monsters, dragons, magical beings and more they could ever want.
I'd say, have it as a recruiting world but have their homeworld on a planet in the new subsectors. That way they get badass Avernites while defending a new sector as reactionary force.
 
I'd say, have it as a recruiting world but have their homeworld on a planet in the new subsectors. That way they get badass Avernites while defending a new sector as reactionary force.
That doesn't give us Astartes with Runed wargear though, and no significant presence of them on the planet to defend against incursions and invasions.
 
(just some optism as Lamenters are my favorite Space Marine Chapter. I like what you have written. )
On the other hand, the Lamenters survive bad luck that would of wiped out most chapters, and keep on enduring.

I think in the age of dusk, a few lamenters survived the end chapters even.

So it is bad luck, but they endure stuff that would turn even the Salamanders into something like the Purge Chaos Marines.
Notably, a secondary aspect of the Yellow Doom (the curse we're talking about) also causes it's victims to be more predisposed to self-sacrifice, and martyrdom. In other words, they tend to charge into situations, headless of their own strategic value, for the purposes of saving the people threatened by the apocalypses they attract.

It's apparently also a secondary aspect that chapters which have particular predispositions towards the Doom have an easier time finding people eligable to join their chapter. It's unclear wether this is due to some conceptual link to heroism that magnetises capable recruits to them like actual threats are, or if it's just correlation wrt the young ones who survive tend to be badasses in some way. The Lamenters in particular seem to have developed some wierd symbiosis with the Doom, where they always face threats just bad enough to be a terrible danger, but never get totally wiped out.

(Also interestingly, the Doom doesn't fade upon falling to chaos or becoming a demon prince. This means fallen Lamenters, as rare as they are, keep the tendancy towards self sacrifice and heroism, despite being, y'know, of chaos.)
 
That doesn't give us Astartes with Runed wargear though, and no significant presence of them on the planet to defend against incursions and invasions.
We already have some Varangian Guard on our planet. Do you really want a chapter with Lamenters luck on the planet?

We don't really need them, better for them to protect a new subsector.
 
(just some optism as Lamenters are my favorite Space Marine Chapter. I like what you have written. )
On the other hand, the Lamenters survive bad luck that would of wiped out most chapters, and keep on enduring.

I think in the age of dusk, a few lamenters survived the end chapters even.

So it is bad luck, but they endure stuff that would turn even the Salamanders into something like the Purge Chaos Marines.

There was some extensive discussion of the Lamenters earlier in the thread.
They are extremely fragmented, with groups here and there traveling around interveining in whatever crisis they are drawn to.

SOP is for the people they save to provide then with recruits and resources before sending them on their way.

They also have protocols for locals to resurrect squads that are wiped out in heroic last stands, given how often it happens.
 
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(just some optism as Lamenters are my favorite Space Marine Chapter. I like what you have written. )
On the other hand, the Lamenters survive bad luck that would of wiped out most chapters, and keep on enduring.

I think in the age of dusk, a few lamenters survived the end chapters even.

So it is bad luck, but they endure stuff that would turn even the Salamanders into something like the Purge Chaos Marines.
in Embers Lamenters luck has got even worse, but they still suvive, mostly as groups of under ten
 
True Death to a 1st Circle Archangyl? Nice! I imagine the Abomination is seething in rage at this failure.

And we've potentially got a new Astartes chapter. Extra nice! EDIT - Oh, wait, they're one of those cursed chapters... prolly best they don't stick around Avernus then.

As for the bracers, I highly doubt that we get them just because he died here. That's not how high grade artifacts are treated.

Keep in mind that we have slain the previous owners and claimed our BCJ pieces personally.

Not in every case. The Black Crystal Breastplate was gained by our forces slaying the orc who took it from the soul eating crocodile that had it. I think Avernus mainly cares that the person who gets them earns it in some fashion. In that case we did by beating the guy who had it and his army, as the commander of our own armies. In this case... well, we were the focused target of a daemonic incursion, and commanded our forces, and managed to come out fairly intact.
 
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Not in every case. The Black Crystal Breastplate was gained by our forces slaying the orc who took it from the soul eating crocodile that had it. I think Avernus mainly cares that the person who gets them earns it in some fashion. In that case we did by beating the guy who had it and his army, as the commander of our own armies. In this case... well, we were the focused target of a daemonic incursion, and commanded our forces, and managed to come out fairly intact.
And Durin has just confirmed in Discord that we are keeping them.
 
True Death to a 1st Circle Archangyl? Nice! I imagine the Abomination is seething in rage at this failure.

And we've potentially got a new Astartes chapter. Extra nice! EDIT - Oh, wait, they're one of those cursed chapters... prolly best they don't stick around Avernus then.



Not in every case. The Black Crystal Breastplate was gained by our forces slaying the orc who took it from the soul eating crocodile that had it. I think Avernus mainly cares that the person who gets them earns it in some fashion. In that case we did by beating the guy who had it and his army, as the commander of our own armies. In this case... well, we were the focused target of a daemonic incursion, and commanded our forces, and managed to come out fairly intact.

And we gave its previous holder his final wish: A glorious fight with a glorious death. I'd say that qualifies as earning it, because that is no small feat, even if we simply directed him to the opponent.
 
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