The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 592 80.3%
  • No

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@Durin

1. Can Lin retreat and make distance?
2. Are there likely to be negative consequences to the fight happening in the vault?
3. Do the wards on the vault give Lin better chances?
 
Half of the remaining Helguard, which has suffered very heavy losses. Do not think that losing those will not have long term ramifications.

Rebuilding an elite military formations with only a few living veterans is damn hard.


Checked the doc, and jeez our elites have been gutted. I dearly hope that casualties means anyone out of the fight, and not that for example all of our primaris execution forces are dead.
For the Helguard, I think we've tithed a bunch of them to the Trust, so we can ask for some back if we want to avoid malluses to refounding the formation.

For the primaris Exectution forces, yeah that's a problem. We should ask the dragons for help with rogue psykers. Been pushing this for a while, but I think it's worth it.
 
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I can't see the Ancient dragon not agreeing. It's pretty much the best narrative death he could hope for: Holding the line just long enough for reinforcements to arrive and turn the tide of the battle.

Only thing better would be a mutual KO with an Exalted, but that isn't going to happen and he knows it. (and this give him a very slight chance of that anyway.)
Is the Ancient Dragon already in Dis, but just not helping for some reason? There's a window of only a few minutes before the Archangyl reaches Lin, so unless it can get to the vault incredibly quickly it probably won't be able to help.
 
Is the Ancient Dragon already in Dis, but just not helping for some reason? There's a window of only a few minutes before the Archangyl reaches Lin, so unless it can get to the vault incredibly quickly it probably won't be able to help.

Yes, he is. Because in the plan we held back all the major Hero classes and instead chose to delay using our elites. (Basically no one wants to risk/expend our heros if at all possible. We've had our elites cleared out before and while it isn't a good time for it, it's likely far more withstandable than losing our key Heros in a fight where they can't pull most of their bonuses properly.)

The suggestion is to now switch up the plan to deploy said single Hero, since he wants to die and this is the final battle of this invasion, then mixing the elites and regulars together for a final stand to hold long enough. We've been told the mixing plan will have a high chance of success but at the cost of half the remaining elites. Adding the Ancient dragon to the mix is an attempt to buy a few extra seconds and decrease that half to something less crippling.
 
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Yes, he is. Because in the plan we held back all the major Hero classes and instead chose to delay using our elites. (Basically no one wants to risk/expend our heros if at all possible. We've had our elites cleared out before and while it isn't a good time for it, it's likely far more withstandable than losing our key Heros in a fight where they can't pull most of their bonuses properly.)

The suggestion is to now switch up the plan to deploy said single Hero, since he wants to die and this is the final battle of this invasion, then mixing the elites and regulars together for a final stand to hold long enough. We've been told the mixing plan will have a high chance of success but at the cost of half the remaining elites. Adding the Ancient dragon to the mix is an attempt to buy a few extra seconds and decrease that half to something less crippling.
as a bonus to having him die here.

theres a good chance that we get to keep the BC bracers that he has since he will be dieing littearlly IN our base.
 
which one would be the can? Sanctus or the Angyle?
Sanctus 99% of the time except for perhaps the 1% of the time where it nat 100s.

Then the squishing is delayed somewhat.

The Titan probably. Like an Alpha has as much power as an entire Titan Legion so imagine how much powerful an Apex Psyker is
To give an idea.

A Second Circle is an Alpha + which has a modifier of 432. The max power bonus one can get is 860 (49 power stat) without going into paragon territory for a total power level of 371,520 obviously it can go higher, but then paragon traits also get involved etc. The first circle is an Apex, power modifier of 2592. Minimum power stat of 50 which comes to 900 multiplier, for a minimum total of 2,332,800 power.
 
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Another reason to not send our heroes against the first circle.

Mind control. They would all probably have to make checks and any failing would be devastating.
 
Yes let us teleport Lin...through the warp.

The warp that at this point is filled with so many daemons that it is basically more daemon than warp.

Teleport him through that warp.
Technically, possible, but not with the tech/wards we have. Grey Knights teleport even during daemonic incursions with Exalteds. Not completely reliably but they do.
 
[] Plan The Last Last Stand
-[] Pair our regular forces with the heroes to work together against the Exalted
prototype to a plan at the moment; I figured we didn't really have enough elite troops left as is and lowering their numbers further will really hurt us when the incursion is over even with the massive amount of experience the survivors get.
Using the heroes on their own of course is risky to them so I figured having them fight with our weaker troops could help reduce risk to both.
 
Technically, possible, but not with the tech/wards we have. Grey Knights teleport even during daemonic incursions with Exalteds. Not completely reliably but they do.
They don't do so carrying...well Lin.

I'd wager they can slink through Areatha can, but sneaking Lin through and doing it fast enough to stop the warp from dogpiling you requires a lot better I fear.

Using the heroes on their own of course is risky to them so I figured having them fight with our weaker troops could help reduce risk to both.
Current best plan we have is

[] Ask the Ancient Dragon to intercept the First
[] Support with a mixture of regular and elites
[] Have Heroes back at the vault as a last line of defence.

Theoretically the first part should do the trick and give us the two minutes we need.

I'm also going to ask if we can corall any particularly nasty cavern beasties its way.
 
They don't do so carrying...well Lin.

I'd wager they can slink through Areatha can, but sneaking Lin through and doing it fast enough to stop the warp from dogpiling you requires a lot better I fear.
Teleportation ain't sneaking. It's about punching through and punching out in an instant. Whatever the Grey Knights have, it provides protection not stealth. (And I mean the Grey Knights as a whole not the ones we have.)
 
We should try to keep the fight at the entrance of the vault instead of inside it. That way we don't have wards getting broken and the wrong people being able to divine stuff like the nature of godhood and other dangerous things that should stay out of their hands.
 
Fall of the Fallen
Fall of the Fallen
The situation is desperate. One of the Greatest of Archangyl's of the True Emperor stride forward towards the Arch Heretic, as his deluded followers die by the millions to protect the coward from his well deserved doom. Yet the Circle is pursued by monsters, a pair of abominations that cuts their way through everything that gets in their way, hunting the greatest servants of the true gods. Legions of Seraphim stride forth to delay the interlopers, only to be shattered. Companies of Archangyls fly onwards to battle, only to be cut down like grain. A 1st Circle commands the rearguard, but he is weak and weary and thus sends out the greatest of his Subordinates, five Angyl Lords, each the match of a Second Circle Anchangyl. Each, the manifestation of the Imperium's sins.

First to step forward is Asmodel- Lord of Judgement, a former Spacemarine whose disdain and hatred for those very humans he protected was his ruin, leading him into the Embrace of Tjapa even as he castigated those mortals who he held responsible for his new God's Birth. The greatest duelist and fighter of the Fallen Five, he was the last to fall to Tjapa. Yet upon this day, the first to fall, was the last.

He strode forth to face the Ancient Wander alone, his disdain not allowing him to see the "mere human" for the threat she was. Arethea struck in a sudden tide, a surge of fire imbued with the very essence of Freedom burning at his very soul. As he Struggles to right himself against the sudden attach Arethea strikes once more, a powerful banishment spell striking Asmodel. Between her prestigious strength and the Aura of the Last Saint, Asmodel finds himself banished before he could strike a single blow. Returned to the tender mercies of the God he so failed.

The Forge-Lord of the Damned was the second youngest of the Five Fallen, a Fabricator General whose lust for knowledge led him to horde it all to himself, even as he twisted the sacred laws of the Mechanicus for his petty enrichment. Eventually he sold his soul for greater knowledge. He summons a dozen Deamon Engines, each a masterpiece of its craft, and the Forge Lord's fell calculations assure him that they shall be sufficient. They strike at the Ancient One, Even as the Lady of Purgation and Lord of Men support the war machines in combat. The Ancient One destroys them in a breathtaking display of skill and valor, before bypassing the other two angyl lords and Beheading the Forge Lord.

The Third to fall to Tjapa was Cassiel, the Lady of Purgation. Once an ambitious and talented sister of Battle upon Ophilia, she listened to the Ecclesiarch when he told her to slay a humble preacher, a saint empowered by the emperor to prevent the rise of the Ophelian theocracy. A dark counterpart to Alicia Dominica, she faithfully serves the Ecclesiarch of Ophelia to this very day, never questioning their orders. Yet upon this day she faced one who cared not for her history, or the living blasphemy she and her sisters represent. The Ancient one cut through her elite guard with barely a thought, briefly dueling Cassiel before striking her through the heart, annihilating her body and soul. Third to fall, and Third to fall.

The second to fall to Tapa was the lord of Men,Bra'nagin. A political general, who's disdain for the lives his men was legendary his fall was swift and sure, and he eager sacrificed a full chapter of Space Marines to his new god, brought down by the corpses of those who followed him. He summoned a nigh endless tide of Conscripti, the mindless faceless shades of his guardsmen. Yet a nigh endless tide was nowhere near enough, for the Ancient One simply ignored their pathetic las blasts, and engaged Bra'nagin in single combat. Berfit of people to die in his name, the life of Bra'nagin truely ended upon the Ancient One's claws.

The first to fall was the last to stand, and Chedomar flew upon golden wings. A monstrous inquisitor who's hatred of the Abhumans drove him to madness, his machinations were in large part responsible for the downfall of Squatkind, earning him the eternal enmity of Squatkind, and a kill team composed of all nine loyal legions. He survived, elevated by Tjapa for such a truly spectacular display of Xenophobia. He engaged the Ancient Wander while she was momentarily weakened, his hatred of Abhumans driving his power ever higher as he engaged the gene-forged psyker. Yet even that was not enough, for with the fall of his comrades he tried to rush a ritual to slay the Wander, only for the ancient human to turn his own power against him, hurling him off in the distance, his golden wings stained red with blood.

Yet She did not pursue, for she had a more important task to take care of, as Ancient One and his student strode forth to face the First Circle.

@Durin Poor Quirky Miniboss Squad. Half of them have been permakilled.
 
Wtf does fallen mean wrt Xavier?
Well, looking at the roll right below it...
Grandmaster Xavier d100=7+84( stats)+20(psyker)+10(stance)+30(Omakes)-60(focus)=81: Fallen
Grandmaster Xavier survival rolls d100=99: Out of Action, no long term effects
Either it means he's fine, outside of not being able to contribute to this fight...
... or he'll be part of the after-battle cleanup, having fallen to chaos and broken a leg in the process.
 
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