I favour pulling back to let the Black Fleet deal with the 'Nids and the Orks while sabotaging it where we can. Actually feeding the 'Nids seems wrong but if there's significant Amir Ka forces still extant I suppose we could hit them as we leave so that makes things easier for the Devourer and denies Chaos local allies. We might be able to weaken Mor Lumix similarly.
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I'm also leaning towards pulling back ans bulking up, leaving the nids for the black imperium. Strengthening the nids is probably a smart choice.
We should consider finishing up wiping out Amir-ka though, they're probably gonna hold a grudge with us and direct the black imperium forces towards our world's if they survive.
We should consider finishing up wiping out Amir-ka though, they're probably gonna hold a grudge with us and direct the black imperium forces towards our world's if they survive.
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Shard
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So I think it would be good for us to do a poll on our responce to the Nids before we do plans.
[] Pull back and let the BI hit the Nids (Pray the BI don't notice us).
[] Strengthen the Nids and subtly sabotage the BI (Hope the BI doesn't escalate).
[] Delay the BI as fucklong as possible and try and kill all the Nids (I.Trust 22+11 Battlefleets vs Nids ~37 Fleets, it's possible depending on how things play out.)
[] Pull back and let the BI hit the Nids (Pray the BI don't notice us).
[] Strengthen the Nids and subtly sabotage the BI (Hope the BI doesn't escalate).
[] Delay the BI as fucklong as possible and try and kill all the Nids (I.Trust 22+11 Battlefleets vs Nids ~37 Fleets, it's possible depending on how things play out.)
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which is why we should delay them instead and finish the nids off ourselfs and then clean house in the sector with every other hostile power in it weakened , as we know for a fact we can most likely take on the nids and win but not so much against the black imperium
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Even if we kill all the nids the black imperium would probably send out the force just to see who killed all the nids. I guess we could try and leak that it is an Eldar move so they don't feel the need to find out more than that the empire of the ashes operates here, but even then, the question of what the eldar are protecting comes up.
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this is unlikely
Abbadon has been at the top of the strongest chaos faction for millenia. This is not his first rodeo - he's had Imperial assassins and Eldar assassins murdering his dudes to disrupt his plans and blaming each other plenty of times. I would not want to rely on slowing the fleet deployment enough for our purposes. Even if we kill off the 'Nids enough to stop him sending the fleet that doesn't mean he won't investigate. Not to mention that he'll have a completely fresh fleet in reserve thanks to us - it will get used somewhere.
At least fighting the fleet we won't have the shadow in the warp to deal with, it won't snowball and, it is capable of breaking and running.
At least fighting the fleet we won't have the shadow in the warp to deal with, it won't snowball and, it is capable of breaking and running.
Doomed Wombat
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Durin just said at the bottom of the last page it was unlikely he would follow up an investigation and for many many reasons this makes sense.
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The problem was that Trust budget was short on AM/EM back when. Now with production boosts from Conclave they should have no issues with that.
Yes, I asked about it on Discord few months ago.
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Remember we also got Master Rune of Toughness on our heroes which should give several more points of armor as well.
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He said it was unlikely he'd send the fleet anyway to investigate. Which is not quite the same thing. If the splinter fleet is of interest then the disappearance of the splinter fleet is of interest, albeit not requiring the immediate, overwhelming force.
Doomed Wombat
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Its worthy of relief, it is not worthy of interest especially when it vanishes next door to an active level 3 waaaargh.
So, not sure what the base Space Marine health multiplier, but Horatius's traits give him x3(x6 vs ranged). Even counting his Duel power, that still puts him as way squishier than Jacob. Jane basically raised a demigod.
IIRC, we found out that they're basically receivers, not diviners in their own right.
For sure, if they come we have to assume we'll be fighting them so we should make sure the 'Nids bleed them as much as possible.
What I don't want to happen is the 'Nids and Orks bleeding us while Abbadon has an unengaged fleet that just needs a new command team. If that gets done while there are still Tyrannids in the area they roll up the whole region because everyone is weakened. In fact, compared to that, we're better off if the border lion misses and they turn up on their original schedule - we'll still be engaged but we won't have taken the losses or done as much damage.
And if the command assasinations mean it doesn't come this way it will hit some other post-Imperium group that's probably our ally.
Doomed Wombat
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.Given the number of tyranid fleets, including the ones in his own space and the fact that he likely needs to rebuild after fighting a level 4 waaaargh for over a century, I think it far more likely that they'll be turned towards something like killing more orks, or tyranids maybe reasserting Abaddon's position as the top of the totum poll in the rather shaken up Chaos Hierarchy.
Unsurprisingly Abaddon doesn't do much fighting the good guys anymore really, he's too big and there are far too few good guys.
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Anyway, we HAVE to do the anti-Slaanesh frequencies this turn no matter what. We need the counter-powers (another 6 years after the anti-frequencies, judging from the Abomination options), and we need to heal Guilliman by T135 or Lin stands too great of a chance of dying before finishing.
I'm still wondering why Durin didn't just fudge the secret roll on the black imperium fleet launch considering how much he's weighting odds to encourage us to delay them and fight the tyranids ourselves. Fighting them ourselves is more satisfying narratively as several pointed out when it was first talked about. But it is taking being told a whole lot of pretty strange odds to make it favorable.
Doomed Wombat
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I dunno just telling us how big the task force was convinced me nahhhhh lets not.
Okay while not strictly speaking an 'odd' that detail is also the sort of thing I'm referring to.
Durin does not believe in fudging the rolls and let the dice roll where they may. Which has been good for us and bad.
Doomed Wombat
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Why?
Its pertinant information that we need to know and appropriate for the Black Imperium's size and power. That's what the task force was always going to be, it just sucks that we happened to get it so soon.
Trying to find abom attacks is a waste right now because it's only a hunch and too late to prep anything more if they do have one planned.