Remove ads

The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%

  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%
  • Total voters
    738
Reader mode
The galaxy's a shithole, 90% of everything actively wants us dead, we're totally outmatched in every conceivable metric, and the only reason we weren't devoured by a endless hunger from beyond the Void is because a few of the sane groups, banded together in a desperate attempt to prevent the galaxy from ending in fire despite their many differences and disputes, were able to cooperate and even then they could only spare the forces needed because it was a threat that grows exponentially. We're totally on our own, but for the help those sane groups can spare if we can convince them we will be an asset rather than a liability.

Clearly the way forward is to purge those that disagree with my way of doing things./s

It's cute, they're almost human.
 
I am late to the debate about sacrificing Rotbart to Chaos to make Lin immortal (a joke by Durin) but realistically even in th best case scenario Lin would hate that form of self sacrifice. On the other hand "religous fanatics" with a very good chance of healing another primarch...
That is terrifyingly tempting. :cry:

@Durin
1. Is there a aspect of "Deathworlder" out there? Or would we need to look for it?
2. With the most widely known deathworlder out there beeing Catachan would it gravitate to them? Or would it be to divided to belong more to a single planet?
3. Since the Emperor managed to to bind his aspect would it be theoretical possible that we bind the aspect of "Deathworlder" to Avernites? I am aware that the most likely chance is extremly small but we must always searh for ways to make Avernites more BS.
4. Would you even allow such a project or would it be to BS?
 
Remove ads
A Dream of Peace
  • Sidestory
    • Written by @Reynal

    @Durin
    -----------

    A Dream of Peace

    To change the fabric of society in a stable manner, the people needed to want it—and for them to want it, they needed to have a vision of how things could be when not bound by the status quo, a vision both aspirational and achievable. That was the fundamental truth guiding Lin's thoughts and plans to end the endless war among the Lizardmen.

    He and the humans were hardly the first to attempt to steer the two empires to peace. There was a reason that the consensus among the Peoples of Avernus they had so far encountered was that trying to put an end to the fighting was a fool's errand. At some point in the millions of years the war had raged near every group had attempted to mediate. Some had even succeeded in stopping the fighting, be it for a year, a decade, or even a century. But none had been able to turn said success into a lasting change. Eventually the old arguments would resume, intensify, and finally boil over into fighting once more. After countless attempts the Peoples had collectively concluded that the war stemmed from a fundamental aspect of their natures and that it had persisted for so long proved them right.

    He disagreed. The war was not their nature; it was their culture, and it was a result of all the years warring that it had become so rather than the cause. For more years than humanity had even existed the war had raged, and their culture had evolved in it and around it—and its sudden cessation would do little to change the cultures it had spawned. While their cultural aspects and values were not nearly twisted enough to demand that war continue uncaring of causes, costs, or alternatives, even without considering their historical grievances they would push them back into war over time. In creating societies that were stable despite the endless warring they had crossed over into societies stabilized by endless warring, each consciously or unconsciously defining itself through its armed opposition to the other and promoting actions to perpetuate it. And while identifying, let alone addressing, the cultural roots of the unending nature of the war was extremely difficult, it was possible.

    There would be many steps in the process, both political and social. A set of terms that the government of both sides would find acceptable must be found. A way of solving future conflicts between the two empires without escalating to war must be devised and eventually normalized. Value must be ascribed to actions that decrease tension with the other side and taken away from those that provoke it. Neutrality must be maintained, and coexistence must be shown to be possible. But that was all in the details. Important—important enough that even one aspect being less than adequate would be enough to shatter any peace once more—but near insignificant compared to making them desire for it to succeed.

    The goal here was to find a dream. One that was worth struggling and making sacrifices for. One that both sides could agree without hesitation as being far superior to their current reality. And, most importantly, one that they could wholeheartedly believe that they could achieve. It was difficult—said dream would have to be a dream both sides could share, and neither could begrudge the other for the aspects they found appealing. It could promise nothing immediate beyond at least a temporary end to the violence and a lot of hard work, for to promise anything else would be a lie, and even without his aura preventing it he was loathe to taint such a thing with falsehoods. But the existence of the Trust itself was born of a dream like that, a faint possibility made real. A dream of the ability to push aside differences and work together in the best interests of all. A dream of fulfilling a solemn duty to embrace the best aspects of themselves and to work to exorcise the worst. A dream of one day creating peace, both within and without.

    With a dream like that they could eventually shed their enmity and make the sacrifices needed to form a lasting peace. With a dream like that they would not fall back into fighting and escalation of any disagreement once the costs of the war were out of mind. With a dream like that they could put it ahead of their pride, their history, and the current shape of their society. With a dream like that there is very little that is not possible.

    Now he only needed to find the version of that dream that fit them and share it.
     
  • Sidestory
    • interesting, going over the numbers in preperation for the trade at the high council and Avernus now has the largest economy in the Imperial Trust
     
    @Durin If we send Vlad to try to get the herbs to cure Guiliman in Y1 and we have Ridcully divine the herbs on his first free action on Y3, would that be soon enough to help Vlad with the herbs?
     
    We have constantly pushed for high standard of living, population growth, education, and technology/infrastructure. It makes sense we have a large economy. But to have the largest means that Avernus arrogance is going to get worse.
     
    @Durin I'd suggest adjusting the economy of some of the other worlds? Maybe Alfheim. Avernus shouldn't really have the best economy when ~80% of our resources are not invested into it.
     
    We have multiple forge cities. Which produce a hell of a lot of exotic and relic material. I'm assuming that's what has caused it. Also, I think we may be the only ones who produce juvenant treatments, which further buffs our economy.
     
    Well big chunk of economy, including nearly all of our AM/EM/RM production as well ginormous metal mines are on Cumean moons. Our ludicrous Administrative Efficiency is also a factor since it massively reduces the upkeep of everything, including production facilities.
     
    sabreFather said:
    @Durin I'd suggest adjusting the economy of some of the other worlds? Maybe Alfheim. Avernus shouldn't really have the best economy when ~80% of our resources are not invested into it.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    No it makes sense, we have a large export economy that is subsidized by the rest of the trust. Also we are the largest produces of material and metal. Combined with little corruption, very effective bureaucracy, high education rate, and high population we should have the biggest population. Right now Midgard only is a bigger population than us.
     
    inverted_helix said:
    I don't get how it's remotely possible when Muspelheim is churning out billions of AM.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    Well looking at it:

    We have the highest Metal production.
    We produce more AM/EM than everyone not Muspelheim/Niflheim.
    We produce more Material and Thrones than anyone not Midgard.

    We also have massive subsidies for our military paid for by everyone else.

    So Avernus is actually a powerful generalist in terms of economy.

    TBH I think the military subsidies are pretty unfair in Avernus' favor. Structurally so, maybe I can figure a solution for that.
     
    Last edited:
    Raise the Raptor High
  • Sidestory
    • Raise the Raptor High

    Before the Aquila, There was the Raptor. Before the Crusade, Unification. Humanity could use some unity. - Planetary Governor Frederick Rotbart
    ​
    In the aftermath of the birth of the abomination, countless symbols were corrupted into uselessness. The Imperial Aquila, turned into a source of corruption. The sigil of the inquisition, spreading the chaos it fought ruthlessly against for so long. The flag of the Adeptus Ministorum, the sign of Tjapa, rather than the emperor. The sisters of battle, once so pure, fell one by one to their own holy iconography. Even as the death of the Emperor shattered the political unity of Mankind, so did the birth of the Abomination shatter mankind's symbolic ties to each other. One by one the Human remnants cast off the signs of the Imperium, for to hold on to the banners of that time was to court damnation. They back onto less regional symbols. The standard of a particular noble house, or the banner of a Space Marine Chapter. For however much they wished it, there was no major imperial symbol left uncorrupted, no rallying banner that remained. Or, at least, almost none.

    One day in the Imperial Trust a tech adapt of Muspelheim was reviewing early historical records dating back to the great crusade, when he came across as banner that he had never seen before. Curious, he spent the next month inputting obscure data sequences and sifting through the immense historical databases, chasing his lead. What he found astonished him. The Raptor Imperialis, the banner that the Emperor himself fought under during the Unification Wars. Yet after Unity it fell out of favor, replaced by the Palitine Aquila that would go on to become the symbol of the Imperium, and later the Abomination. He reported his findings, and after extensive testing, Inquisitorial interrogation and confirmation by Saint Lin the Raptor Imperialis was judged true and pure.

    Adoption was rapid, spreading from unit to unit, and world to world with incredible speed. By the time that the Trust High Council considered its official status its use had already begun to spread to worlds in The Dragon's Nest. They ultimately decided to demure adopting it as a realm wide standard at the moment, agreeing with Dragon's Nest that the Raptor Imperialis, the Lighting Standard, would be raised in the council chamber the first time upon the moment of unity.

    Yet it has spread even beyond the Trust and the Nest, as with every human world saved from the remorseless advance of the Tyranid threat, another world raises the banner of the Emperor, the banner of unity...

    @Durin This has been bouncing around the back of my brain for a while.
     
    Last edited:
  • Sidestory
    • Shard said:
    Well looking at it:

    We have the highest Metal production.
    We produce more AM/EM than everyone not Muspelheim/Niflheim.
    We produce more Material and Thrones than anyone not Midgard.

    We also have massive subsidies for our military paid for by everyone else.

    So Avernus is actually a powerful generalist in terms of economy.

    TBH I think the military subsidies are pretty unfair in Avernus' favor. Structurally so, maybe I can figure a solution for that.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    We need the subsidies for the short and middle term right now. Right now we bring in roughly 70 million am a turn discounting imports. Dropping the Am refund we bring it down to 15 million. Which is not enough for us to continue buying everything in sight like we usually do.

    Edit the hellguard and helltoopers are some of the most advance infantry in the galaxy. With only the Eldar, Nectons and maybe the large admech polities having such advance troops in the galaxy.
     
    Last edited:
    Reader mode
    You must login or register to reply here.
    Remove ads
    Back
    Top