The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

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Anti-psyker yes but more in the sense of smashing psykers good. Clear sight and unraveling careful veils are not exactly his forte, what with being the good of blood-crazed lunatics
Hunting is one of Khorne's strong suits, as rather aptly demonstrated by Kurrun Ashstriker.

I fear Rid's powers would be suppressed which is something Khorne is very good at doing and if Rid's scent is picked up by Khorne's hounds then he'll have a bloodthirster with an appropriate paragon trait hunting his ass in the warp.

In short don't underestimate him, or his capabilities he's far better at this than anyone likes to give him credit.
 
Going to Khorne realm is a bad idea for so many reasons. Unless we get specifically asked by the Eldar to do it IN TURN and not in discord we should not attempt it. Remember Khorne is the antipsyker chaos god. Ridicully would be severally hampered going there.
 
Going to Khorne realm is a bad idea for so many reasons. Unless we get specifically asked by the Eldar to do it IN TURN and not in discord we should not attempt it. Remember Khorne is the antipsyker chaos god. Ridicully would be severally hampered going there.
Agree with this, rather people not take Russian Roullete level risks lightly since like Russian Roullete playing long enough is going to inevitably have us blow our brains out once our luck runs out.
 
Info from discord: The Eldar are interested in having Ridcully go into Khorne's Realm and have a look at his new Avatar, and paying us for it. Doing this would both help the Eldar and allies deal with the new Avatar, and hopefully give Rids another shot at Transcendence, so I think we should do it.
Not worth it. Going into Khorne's Realm is one of the most suicidal things Ridcully can attempt. The risk of losing him far outweighs the potential gain.

Going to Khorne realm is a bad idea for so many reasons. Unless we get specifically asked by the Eldar to do it IN TURN and not in discord we should not attempt it. Remember Khorne is the antipsyker chaos god. Ridicully would be severally hampered going there.
Even if asked directly we shouldn't do it. Ridcully is worth more to us than an Honourbound Favour. And has more impact on the galaxy than that Avatar is ever likely to manage.
 
Even if asked directly we shouldn't do it. Ridcully is worth more to us than an Honourbound Favour. And has more impact on the galaxy than that Avatar is ever likely to manage.
I'd say the being as strong as the void dragon that can hang around for a very long time once summoned is probably capable of causing at least as much impact as Ridcully./
 
Can we just wait until the dark imperium use it against some other apocalypse? This way the avatar is occupied and the seer will probably see multiple futures so he can see how well that avatar actually is. Plus this way it will not be at the place where he is strongest.
 
I'd say the being as strong as the void dragon that can hang around for a very long time once summoned is probably capable of causing at least as much impact as Ridcully./
Thing is, how often can it do anything and how hard would it be for Khorne to do the same job without it?
The overwhelming majority of the time an Exalted Demon is gross overkill. The Avatar even more so. Only very rarely is there going to be a situation where the Avatar can win a battle that Khorne couldn't have won with mortal servants or conventional demons. The Avatar will have its impact in climactic battles that turn up every few centuries.

Contrast Ridcully who Sees information that changes the course of a galaxy scale war every couple of decades. The Nids, Arha's latest screw up, Vect's deal with Slaanesh. All things that could have been significantly worse had Ridcully not seen them coming.
 
Thing is, how often can it do anything and how hard would it be for Khorne to do the same job without it?
The overwhelming majority of the time an Exalted Demon is gross overkill. The Avatar even more so. Only very rarely is there going to be a situation where the Avatar can win a battle that Khorne couldn't have won with mortal servants or conventional demons. The Avatar will have its impact in climactic battles that turn up every few centuries.

Contrast Ridcully who Sees information that changes the course of a galaxy scale war every couple of decades. The Nids, Arha's latest screw up, Vect's deal with Slaanesh. All things that could have been significantly worse had Ridcully not seen them coming.
Presumably as many times as someone like Abaddon or Huron can summon it up to crush something.

Difference with Exalted is that as rare as they are they can be beaten, Primarchs for example.

But, the Avatar took 12 transcendent gods who man handled his greatest servents to take down once and it didn't get a birth boost so it'll be just as powerful when its summoned next as it was now.

To make matters whose as has been stated the Avatar hangs around its not like an exalted that will disperse after a battle it can presumably command wars, and generally have an impact in excess of what an Exalted can hope to match while being incalculably stronger, especially since its not just a fighting machine its a god of war, so its likely the best strategist, tactician and leader in the galaxy.

Since I used them already, take the Primarchs, big honking threat that abaddon really hates. Even summoning up 4 exalted is unlikely to be enough to deal with the 4 primarchs, the Avatar if its recent showing is any indicator would eat them for lunch and by doing so crush one of humanities last bastions with ease.

Ridcully is incredibly influential, no doubt about that, but this is the closest Chaos has to an I win button. I'd call it a silver bullet, but really its a ****ing sledge hammer.
 
Going to Khorne realm is a bad idea for so many reasons. Unless we get specifically asked by the Eldar to do it IN TURN and not in discord we should not attempt it. Remember Khorne is the antipsyker chaos god. Ridicully would be severally hampered going there.
I think that Khorne's Realm likely has three layers of defenses against this sort of scrying:

1: Anti-Psyker wards.
2: Anti-Psyker Daemons running around looking for psykers to kill.
3. Some sort of trait making psykery weaker/more difficult. This may or may not be part of the Wards in 1.

Of the three, Ridcully's Power Paragon trait counters 1, as only extremely important areas are likely to have the Divine level wards required to stop him, as seen in Throne of Decay. 2 is countered by his Control Paragon Trait and his Ghosthelm, as even Khorne is likely to have very few guards capable of piercing his stealth. Finally, 3 is either a Ward, and countered by Sees no Barriers, a weakening of his Power, which is countered by his high power level, or an increase of Miscast chance, which is countered by several traits and his high Control.

Combined with the improvements he's had, I conclude that this is likely far less dangerous to Ridcully than the Throne of Decay.
 
I think that Khorne's Realm likely has three layers of defenses against this sort of scrying:

1: Anti-Psyker wards.
2: Anti-Psyker Daemons running around looking for psykers to kill.
3. Some sort of trait making psykery weaker/more difficult. This may or may not be part of the Wards in 1.

Of the three, Ridcully's Power Paragon trait counters 1, as only extremely important areas are likely to have the Divine level wards required to stop him, as seen in Throne of Decay. 2 is countered by his Control Paragon Trait and his Ghosthelm, as even Khorne is likely to have very few guards capable of piercing his stealth. Finally, 3 is either a Ward, and countered by Sees no Barriers, a weakening of his Power, which is countered by his high power level, or an increase of Miscast chance, which is countered by several traits and his high Control.

Combined with the improvements he's had, I conclude that this is likely far less dangerous to Ridcully than the Throne of Decay.
I will strongly oppose sending Ridcully back into hell without the backing of the Empire of Ashes, to act as a distraction.
 
I will strongly oppose sending Ridcully back into hell without the backing of the Empire of Ashes, to act as a distraction.
I have similar sentiments if we can get the Eldar to act as a distraction or help I would be for it. actually we should get a Phoenix Avatar on stand by to kill Ridicully if anything would go wrong. Because chaos Ridicully would be a terrifying on so many levels.
 
Presumably as many times as someone like Abaddon or Huron can summon it up to crush something.

Difference with Exalted is that as rare as they are they can be beaten, Primarchs for example.

But, the Avatar took 12 transcendent gods who man handled his greatest servents to take down once and it didn't get a birth boost so it'll be just as powerful when its summoned next as it was now.

To make matters whose as has been stated the Avatar hangs around its not like an exalted that will disperse after a battle it can presumably command wars, and generally have an impact in excess of what an Exalted can hope to match while being incalculably stronger, especially since its not just a fighting machine its a god of war, so its likely the best strategist, tactician and leader in the galaxy.

Since I used them already, take the Primarchs, big honking threat that abaddon really hates. Even summoning up 4 exalted is unlikely to be enough to deal with the 4 primarchs, the Avatar if its recent showing is any indicator would eat them for lunch and by doing so crush one of humanities last bastions with ease.

Ridcully is incredibly influential, no doubt about that, but this is the closest Chaos has to an I win button. I'd call it a silver bullet, but really its a ****ing sledge hammer.
Questions, doesn't it take time for a Daemon to be summoned again once it's been banished? IIRC anytime it happens there is a time limit to how long until they can come back. On that note how expensive would it be to summon Khorne anyway? Can't be cheap considering that there is always a cost and just exalted are expensive as hell to summon.

Also was the first body really going to be that powerful? Assumed that what the PL's destroyed was the body leaving Khorne with just avatars.
Can we just wait until the dark imperium use it against some other apocalypse? This way the avatar is occupied and the seer will probably see multiple futures so he can see how well that avatar actually is. Plus this way it will not be at the place where he is strongest.
This seems like it makes more sense. Seems much more practical to have Ridcully divine where and when it's going to be summoned and than get information from another scry when it's actually summoned.
 
Questions, doesn't it take time for a Daemon to be summoned again once it's been banished? IIRC anytime it happens there is a time limit to how long until they can come back. On that note how expensive would it be to summon Khorne anyway? Can't be cheap considering that there is always a cost and just exalted are expensive as hell to summon.

Also was the first body really going to be that powerful? Assumed that what the PL's destroyed was the body leaving Khorne with just avatars
Depends on the daemon. While usually yes, if they're high enough in favour they can avoid this with the God effectively giving them power to reconstitute themselves faster (For example Heartslayer the one Areatha beat wasn't in high favour due to getting its ass whooped, loosing an avatar and a bunch of eldar souls so is stuck rebuilding itself for 1000 years.)

Its presumably far expensive than a regular exalted, but also far cheaper than something of its strength should be thanks to it effectively piggybacking the Eldar Pantheon's close connection to the materium that lets them manifest in it much easier than they should other wise.

No, Aharah's ritual "worked" in the sense that all the avatars have recombined into a single one that Khorne co-opted, the PA's then banished the avatar, but its still one avatar and if summoned would be just as strong as when it was first created.

This seems like it makes more sense. Seems much more practical to have Ridcully divine where and when it's going to be summoned and than get information from another scry when it's actually summoned.
Good thing about the avatar is that the number of people with the resources and affiliation to summon it is a really short list.

Abaddon, Huron and Kharn.

Unless there's a major Khornate domain out there that should be it.
 
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I have similar sentiments if we can get the Eldar to act as a distraction or help I would be for it. actually we should get a Phoenix Avatar on stand by to kill Ridicully if anything would go wrong. Because chaos Ridicully would be a terrifying on so many levels.
If Ridcully fell I think that there would be a really real chance that he would be the Tzeentch candidate.

Perhaps his falling would even mean that he becomes Tzeentch Incarnate and gives him the boost he's been waiting for.
 
If Ridcully fell I think that there would be a really real chance that he would be the Tzeentch candidate.

Perhaps his falling would even mean that he becomes Tzeentch Incarnate and gives him the boost he's been waiting for.
Well yeah there are 3 candidates we know that can become Tzeentch. 1 Ridicully 2 Magnus 3 Arhiman ( who I think is the most likely out of the 3). Ridicully has 5 paragon traits and Avernus knowledge and just knowledge in general. In my mind Ridicully is the second most likely candidate.
 
Well yeah there are 3 candidates we know that can become Tzeentch. 1 Ridicully 2 Magnus 3 Arhiman ( who I think is the most likely out of the 3). Ridicully has 5 paragon traits and Avernus knowledge and just knowledge in general. In my mind Ridicully is the second most likely candidate.
Turns out Ahriman was merely a distraction from the real Tzeench some random guy named Steve

 
@Thread: which is our best anti-armor heavy (ie, Devestator Marine primary weapon) weapon?

Tzeench being some random nobody, who ascended 100% though the efforts of Tzeench would actually fit. that said, I suspect that his past self is essentially multiple choice, until it happens.

I'm of a similar opinion. I actually suspect that Tzeench gets a lot of power out of the uncertainty, essentially letting him use the skills and traits of his various candidates.
 
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Looks like issac is getting the job. Hope he stays alive longer. So next we have the trade with the Sirens and than the turn.
Adhoc vote count started by Nurgle on Apr 29, 2019 at 1:11 PM, finished with 133 posts and 35 votes.
 
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That we have now or in 40K normal?

Probably Neutron Las cannon in the former las cannon the latter?

Do you have a link to the weapon datasheets? I can't find them on the patreon page.
EDIT: I'm working on an omake and trying to figure out what Kay would be kitted out with. Thinking combi Volkite Culverin/Neutron Lascanon atm.
 
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