Lizardmen diplomacy the lizardmen trade sounds amazing, domesticate Avernus wildlife and relic weapons.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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I have to say that even if I agree with you that we can´t get Lin into transcendent with regular research, but we may be able to get him a Paragon learning with regular research and that will surely help with the Primordial sea.
The thing is that the rolls even if they were much more difficult, but the risk was only the life of Ridcully, in this case, the prize of failure may be a Game Over.
So the reward for a success in Lin´s action will be way bigger than the ones in Ridcully.
Are you sure about this?, Durin said that Lin has between 15 and 45 years to live and even if 30 years is the Average of 15 and 45, if we have a bad roll we may be stuck with the lower end of the estimation (15-20 years).
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The Sword is Viktor Mineyev, who dual wields vortex grenades empowered by his ultra-edgelord aura.
The Dread Saurian has twin-linked multi-meltas that are each armed with a plasma guns.
(just adding to the fun, not trying to subtract from your post.)
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Ah, but that's a winning strategy in Stellaris. You lose a fight against one of the Fallen Empires, but destroy a ship or two and copy all of their tech.
Not sure why I thought this was relevant.
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The action for diplo is only 3 years not that bad at all honestly.
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We will harvest the super daemon, and then find out how to send a blink spider to each of the chaos gods.
Edit: It seems I have the first post on the 5000th page.
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I absoutely hate when people use arguments like this especially since it seems like the people doing it are trying to make it out like other questers don't want to take risks. We are willing to take risks, for gods sake we risked our best asset and one of the best seers in history in a mission to help the Eldar rescue the goddess even though losing Rids would have definitely hurt us and we took a big risk with the tech trade with the major human polities.
What's worse is that you are making it sound like Durin didn't give us other options to win when that just seems incredily disrespectful to a good QM. I am pretty sure that any good QM wouldn't make it so that the only way we could win. Imagine that there are actually a few things that Lin could look up that would still give good bonuses that could seriously help us and win in the end that don't rely on us bad ending on a single bad roll.
This kind of argument sort of comes across as disingenuous along with a smidge of fear mongering to get people to take an action that could bad end us with a single bad roll.
And to give an IC POV it just comes across as a massive dick move to introduce something worse than an undiveded chaos incursion on the galaxy without bringing it up with all the major human factions first. Avernus arrogance at it's worse right there.
So, if the Sea can cause a bad end, but just as likely can give us all the good things, as well as pushing Lin to Transcendence, shouldn't we try for the Well of Eternity first, which can also give lots of Shinies, and push Lin to Transcendence? Because it seems like a pretty good idea to push Lin to Transcendence, and having The Well of Eternity first seems like the best way to accomplish that goal.
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because it is likely just as dangerous
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While the animals of Avernus are insanely impressive I suspect that the weapon improvment is a straight multiplicative bonus, making our more advanced weapons drastically more effective. Also I want to see if it can be turned to enhancing crafting tools as well.
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@Nurgle If we end up waiting a bit and trying to get as much research done as possible before deciding for the Primordial Sea, we should try to get all the Laws of the Warp research done before (especially the one about narrative)
It seems that they could give us a decent bonus for Warp related things, and the Primordial sea is probably among them
By the way @Durin, congratulation for the 5000 pages.
It seems that they could give us a decent bonus for Warp related things, and the Primordial sea is probably among them
By the way @Durin, congratulation for the 5000 pages.
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Didn't we get told that its just as dangerous to Lin, but won't cause a bad end? That seems like the best middle-ground we can get for it. Especially since that risk can be somewhat mitigated I'm sure by getting help from the Eldar, and if it succeeds seems like the kind of thing that would make him Transcendent, which would make everything else much easier, and keep Lin alive, possibly for the rest of the quest. Which would be super duper nice.
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
On the galaxy? This is Avernus. Even if the PM could not contain it for some reason (very doubtful. It's not like an undivided incursion is likely to actually conquer Avernus.), it is not nearly a given that it would be capable of interstellar travel.
The animals are vastly more numerous and versatile, not merely useful to further boost our heroes and champions. Also, we could probably use those tamed beasts to help set up our own tamers, even if they might never be as good.
Also, the tamer side just wants resources, while the warriors want advanced weapons that they would further enhance and wield with supernatural skill. One is just a trade, the other pretty much military support.
John Masaki
The Guy With the Lightsaber
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Already answered, but you know those fires that always happen in California?
Now set the galaxy on fire-oh, wait, it's already on fire, I mean set it even more on fire. Possibly via the Primordial Sea rising up to swallow everything like in The Shape of Nightmares to Come, the fanfic that led to the creation of this Quest.
That's a conflagration.
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Sometimes the solution to a fire, is a another fire to suffocate the bigger fire.
John Masaki
The Guy With the Lightsaber
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But where are we going to get a fire big enough to smother the Primordial Sea of all things?
Seriously, we Questers don't think small!
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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What if when Lin pierces the veil and looks into the Primordial Sea he just sees Games Workshop or the Embers in the Dusk thread?
That would drive anyone insane. If he survives he truly deserves that Trancendent trait.
That would drive anyone insane. If he survives he truly deserves that Trancendent trait.
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@Durin
-1. But what kind of charge? Is he charging the guy telling him? Is he charging the Tyranids? Is he charging his weapon?
I think we or the Imperial Trust Guard could probably fill all of the uncorrupted roles a commisar could fill by using unit champions and stealth commissars(internal security?).
The idea is probably much more use to the Trust Guard than us.
-2. Who do we talk to to make this possible?
Can we just say we brought it up with Klovis Ultan and call the idea distributed for further examination without needing to take any further in-quest action, or do we need to set up a meeting with the Inquisition, Security Council and governor of Niflhiem?
Most of our Rogue psykers are as such because they fall to Chaos, and a big chunk of our ability to keep them down is in the forces we array against them. Also I get the impression The Thread didn't want to trade lakes and tech to the Sirens for runes because we'd eventually get them anyway so if I want the lakes idea to be valuable I need to think of an alternate use.
-3. What would trading with the Avernite natives for mercenary forces to fight Rogue psykers cost?
They're essentially Chaos anyway, so it could be pretty cheap.
I'm thinking something a lot like our Primaris response forces maybe? It depends a lot on what kind of role they're best able to fill and whether they have any special uses in this context. We've fought alongside them against Chaos invasions in the past, so this isn't an extreme leap.
-4. Is the Djinn Skein Gladatoria an MIU thing where the simulation exists only in the mind of the soldier, or an environment thing where the soldier moves their body in an emulation environment to experience the simulation?
Because if they're stationary the right medical tech should allow us to pack even more soldiers into a small space in our transports. In fact this idea might be worth looking at for tech development anyways. The effect would be degraded by the volume and maintenence requirements of their equipment, but it might be useful.
They're probably mobile if the system gets used on Avernus though.
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