The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
Maybe. Main problem is that it will be hard to keep track of. We'd probably end up needing that 25 million extra production at some point but forget that we have it.
I guess it's not a big deal to drop metal from the trade deal.
Last edited:
[x] Elder Haman
That's a good question. I think durin is tithing gross production before expenses, not net. The math for food is uncomplicated, so that's likely it.
It's probably best to just drop it and not bother having to have durin deal with the admin headache.
Gifting pretty much everything Elder Haman is at this point, promethium included. Differences between the two deals are probably going to continue to shrink.
Yes, I went ahead and dropped the metal to Midgard part of the trade.
I think the only difference left is that you are buying some material from Midgard, and I'm just banking the credits instead.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
Yes it is from gross
Yes it will increase your relationship
Yeah, I think that's it at this point... goddammit, I spent all day making that plan. But yeah, that's the effective difference.
Also, you still need to fix your cargo numbers for Niflheim and Muspelheim. (both are less than 1, no navigators needed - save the Navigators for warships)
Current tally.
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[X] Plan: Trade Everything!
No. of votes: 6
Elder Haman, Dark Ness, Aranfan, Sirrocco, Daniel14541, fasquardon
[X] Plan Big Trade
No. of votes: 2
Enjou, Massgamer
To whoever cares, the difference between the two plans is a matter of 7 credits with Midgard being banked (Trade Everything!) or buying some Material. (Big Trade)
- Location
- The Void
[x] Elder Haman
Hmmm... we actually have three sets of orbital defenses needing completion, rather than the two being done here. (two for the moons, one for the ship graveyard) Unless maybe this deal has us shuffle the partial materials that got shipped over for all three are being shifted to one of them, and then the new costs here are for completing the other two?
I feel you. I started on that trade and about 2 hours in I suddenly realized it was a much bigger thing then I had thought it would.
Fixed.
Fortunately we should be done with excessively long stuff for a while... except maybe the troops we'll send to Jotunheim. I am so looking forward to that war.
I see, better drop the food trade.
That will put us at -16 a year, which means we will run out in... 200 years. I guess I could leave it in, but rather not.
@Enjou you removed it from your trade already, but forgot to remove it from the summary of total gains and losses.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
Vanaheim only has the space construction capacity for two
Probably not since I hadn't thought durin was expecting something quite that detailed, though it honestly helped make it into something better than I had initially thought out.
Skewfiend
The Corruptor of All Things
- Location
- The Darkness Behind Your Eyes
Maybe I'll let someone else calculate the distribution of troops to take this time.
Looking like Military actions next turn are probably decided:
Send troops to Jotunheim (Personal?)
Anti-insurgency training
Maybe send troops to Vanaheim?
Administorum has one open general action and one orbital action
Transfer excess population to Dis (From Helm's Deep, Casarrondo, Lemnos, Nurn and Garden Grove, and maybe a couple other cities), so probably looking at 300,000 people or so moving to Dis. Doubling Dis' population levels.
For the Orbital action... something to do with finishing off Forge Cities or something? Or maybe increasing metal mining? Or building merchant ships. Yeah... that could be important.
Fortunately two more actions will come free the following turn.
One Arbites action available:
Sending Investigation teams to Midgard and Vanaheim?
Mechanicus:
Explore those DAoT ships
Warp Scanners for other planets?
Or maybe work on our backlog of tech
Ministorum:
Send Saint Lin on his tour of the sub-sector. Double the guard on him, a regiment of Black Irons, and the Phase Tiger Regiment. Maybe even a squad from our bodyguard. Maybe even send Gerald Xavier with him?
Telepathica:
If Xavier isn't guarding Saint Lin, then I guess we'll be getting ready to accept psykers from all over the sub-sector?
Not sure what else will happen next turn. Might need to replace some of our advisers. Will Lord Klovis-Ultan still be able to serve as our diplomacy adviser? Do we need to appoint a member of the Low Council? (Henry or Caroline?) Is General Drago going to have to go to Asgard to help command the Imperial Guard force or are we sending someone else?
I was, not sure about Enjou.
I suppose that is realistic for an economy suffering from the major shock of suddenly being cut off from all outside trade partners. Weird crap starts happening.
Oh... does this mean we are preventing Nilfheim and Alfheim from getting their Orbital Defenses built?
HanEmpire
Delicious
It's like the old Soviet Satellite states: make more products than called for, disassemble them again, make everyone work full time.
Skewfiend
The Corruptor of All Things
- Location
- The Darkness Behind Your Eyes
There doesn't even have to be a major economic upset for ridiculous crap to be economically incentivised. Somehow it is cheaper to import oranges all the way from California to my hometown of Alice Springs, right in the middle of desert bumfuck nowhere, Australia, than it is to ship them from anywhere nearby.
That's not all that surprising. What is Australia's growing season and climate? Is it suitable to mass growing of citrus fruits? California to Australia is pretty much a straight shot across an ocean. California also has some economy of scale. So forth and so forth.
If California has a significant comparative advantage in growing oranges then it makes perfect sense. That doesn't seem too unlikely.
What would be weird would be for Australia to import... um... anti-venom? I mean... cause Australia has all those poisonous animals, so you all got to have a absolute advantage in producing anti-venom, right? (I sure you have comparative advantage in other items too, but perhaps not absolute advantage.)
EDIT: So I went and looked up Australia's exports. How did I forget beef? Australia is pretty famous for it's cattle. We import beef to the American west coast despite having beef ranchers in America. Not weird at all.
Another big export is coal, that's one that it would be weird to import. And one that isn't large, but at which you have a major advantage is opium, so it would be weird for Australia to import morphine.
Last edited:
Yes to both the former, probably not for the latter since we'll need to finish the anti-insurgency training first.
We might also need to do a muster for the IG troops, or to replace those being stationed elsewhere.
300,000? Do you mean 300 million? Also, some would move to Hollin, since that's a hive. (actually more would probably go to Hollin, given the ease of transporting them via the underground railways.
The Forge Cities should continue building on their own for another year, and finishing those might be an AdMech action. Merchant ships are high in demand right now, and probably don't cost EM, so going for them would probably be the way to go.
Probably.
I was thinking the DAoT ships. If we have a choice of which to explore first, I'd go for the 10 Light Cruisers.
I don't think durin will give the option of doubling the guard on him, but I could be wrong. Remember that the standard turns aren't write ins, generally. Also, the guy is actually better in combat than Rotbart w/out BCJ at this point, and can utterly kick the crap out of Chaos stuff.
Poor Man's Astropath.
Possibly.
His operations are based around Avernus, so I don't see why not. He'll probably be hanging out here more than anywhere else.
I'm thinking Varquez will likely end up on the Security Council, and Yinn would probably end up as the High Council representative since she's more politically neutral.
Maybe? That could just be something done in the background. If we had to pick someone, it would be Caroline - Henry is too valuable at home, and Caroline is ambitious so it would be a good position for her. We'd need a new personal assistant, though. Fortunately there should be a wider variety of candidates given how long our education programs have been going on.
I was thinking if he was put on the Security Council he might be stationed on Avernus. Asgard is too far from our end of the subsector to react as quickly as possible to attacks on stuff happening close to home. Likely there will be two or three stations - probably Asgard, Midgard, and Avernus.
Probably not. That was kind of a big item in the conference. Of course, it could be that the fund might need a few years to build up to make it affordable, so them doing this for us now isn't a problem.
Last edited: