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- USA
I just checked it would only cost 440 million material to expand not 440 billion the main cost is advanced and exotic material.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
- Location
- Lowton
| Year Income | Thrones | Material | Metal | Promethium | Advanced Material | Exotic Material | Food | Relic Material | Population |
| Starting | 504,063,385,431 | 540,904,103,345 | 1,252,974,499,361 | 463,054,949,142 | 297,609,806 | 10,948,329 | 472,183 | 59 | 53,484,231,222 |
| Net Income | -62,635,391,076 | 78,507,844,103 | 220,907,501,164 | 24,865,454,097 | 48,513,699 | 504,566 | -1,842 | 49 | 3,511,565,522 |
| Percent of Income used | 309.96% | 42.37% | 0.26% | 15.51% | 65.55% | 80.71% | 0.00% | 28.82% | |
| Remaining | 441,427,994,355 | 619,411,947,448 | 1,473,882,000,525 | 487,920,403,239 | 346,123,505 | 11,452,895 | 470,341 | 108 | 56,995,796,744 |
| Percent Growth | -12.43% | 14.51% | 17.63% | 5.37% | 16.30% | 4.61% | -0.39% | 83.73% | 0.96% |
Cost: 5,500,000,000 Thrones, 440,000,000 Material, 27,000,000 Promethium, 140,000,000 Advanced Material, 940,000 Exotic Material .
Upkeep per year: 730,000,000 Thrones, 56,000,000 Material, 14,000,000 Promethium, 9,400,000 Advanced Material, 45,000 Exotic Material.
Thrones-504,063,385,431-5,500,000,000=498,563,385,431
Material-540,904,103,345-440,000,000=540,462,103,345
Promethium-463,054,949,142-27,000,000=463,027,949,142
Advanced mat-297,609,806-140,000,000=157,609,806
Exotic mat-10,948,329-940,000=10,008,329
the fact it takes 18 years means we will of recovered most of the initial expeneses by the time the expansion is finished makeing it a good idea in my book.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Now with my stuff done it is my turn to tell you to go to bed and rest up.
- Location
- Lowton
Its ok but now I have started to do the maths and might as well do the costing
I've got time and procrastinating anyway
I get off work in 1 and half hours. Now why me being tired may affect my ability to read on a iPhone I am amazing at my job. Serious you want me or a doctor if you get in a emergency.
Edit preference a emergency room doctor or PA because of scoop of practice.
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Alright so, Admech expansion is looking much better. Little confused as to why the Admech don't have their own economy... but -shrugs- whatever I guess. I especially like that doing it will improve Scott's position within the Admech, which is just... so very helpful for our long term plans.
- Location
- madison
our economy is there economy.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
"I AM the economy!"
-Random AdMech Magos before falling to Tzeentch
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
1. there was, also the early name pattern of your bodyguards was the trojan war, which had Ajax the greater and Ajax the lesserTroll King, the Omake that introduced the Black Crystal Crown, was also written by @Skewfiend.
EDIT: As was A is for Avernus, which introduced the Unborn. Basically, Skewfiend had a huge impact on this quest (pretty sure they also authored the original vote for Avernus)
EDIT: And rereading some prologue omakes, we've apparently had two bodyguards named Ajax. The first was a psyker that we had to put down before the first turn, who was replaced by Agamemnon in the Troll King omake.
@Durin
1. Was there collaboration?
it will be and the Eldar will give it to you in the coming meeting
4. what 3 worlds missing
5. ah, yes they were
6. 3
I am not the player
1. no
3. no
Just seems weird they don't have their own separate economy for their moons and whatnot. I mean, I thought they were supposed to be separate not working directly for the planetary governor? Eh, well whatever then. I super hope we get Forge World STCs, so that those moons of ours can be upgraded totally. Also, Artifact Resource STCs. Those'd be super fancy.
Is there any way we could have our universities start teaching a curriculum designed by Tranth about the Fundamental Understanding he has on stealth/grav tech? Or like, specifically teach that to his little college thing he's got?
Is there any way we could have our universities start teaching a curriculum designed by Tranth about the Fundamental Understanding he has on stealth/grav tech? Or like, specifically teach that to his little college thing he's got?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
If they had the resources on their own then they would be, but they aint.
We got all the forge designs, the only ones higher are the Martian ones (those produced artefact material). Unless Vulkan or a Primarch memorised the design there maybe some issues.
As for teaching, he's probably done that automatically.
- Location
- madison
initally they where, but they came under our umbrella when the trust formed. The admech gave up a lot of power because it made no sense for our industrial base to be its own separate thing rather than just part of the economy.
Working on it right now. I just don't have time during the workday right now.
Thanks I have been up for 30 hours so I will pass out now.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Bed now.
@Durin
1. Will there be the chance to confront Dalv (or should I say VLAD) before the meeting?
Ok then, here's what I've got. Subject to edits in the Argument sections.
[X] Vote in favor of greatly discounting Tier 1 and Tier 2 technologies.
[X] Vote in favor of greatly discounting Tier 3 technologies.
-[X] Agree to fund an expansion of the AdMech military within a decade to gain Scott's support.
[X] Vote in favor of greatly discounting Tier 4 technologies.
-[X] Argument 1: The galaxy is becoming more and more dangerous as new threats arise. Apocalyptic threats that will affect the whole of the galaxy are coming. While getting more out of the trade would be beneficial to the Trust, it would be even more beneficial if we can ensure the larger polities of sane humans are armed as best as possible to counter these threats. The Trust simply does not yet have the capacity to act at the scale they do, and shield the greater galaxy (including the Trust) from the evils to come.
-[X] Argument 2: In light of those threats, an unfortunate possibility must be acknowledged - the Trust could well be destroyed. In that event, any technology we've held back will likely be lost to humanity forever.
-[X] Argument 3: Reciprocation of our generosity is likely. What we are offering is high level to begin with, so they will already be willing to pay highly for them. If they do not reciprocate, then they will appear stingy, especially if one of the other three polities reciprocates immediately as they would look shameful for not doing so.
[X] Vote in favor of greatly discounting Tier 5 technologies.
-[X] Argument 1: If Tier 4 has been discounted, point out that we currenlty only possess one technology at this level, and that while impressive it does not have the same strategic scale impact as the other technologies we have as it can only be produced in limited numbers due to high costs. Bartering hard over a single piece of technology that would have less impact than the tech on the prior tier would appear inconsistent. Should the data jewels provide additional technologies of this tier, the group going to the meeting can decide on whether or not to negotiate harder for them
@Durin
1. Do any of the above arguments sway anyone?
[X] Vote in favor of greatly discounting Tier 1 and Tier 2 technologies.
[X] Vote in favor of greatly discounting Tier 3 technologies.
-[X] Agree to fund an expansion of the AdMech military within a decade to gain Scott's support.
[X] Vote in favor of greatly discounting Tier 4 technologies.
-[X] Argument 1: The galaxy is becoming more and more dangerous as new threats arise. Apocalyptic threats that will affect the whole of the galaxy are coming. While getting more out of the trade would be beneficial to the Trust, it would be even more beneficial if we can ensure the larger polities of sane humans are armed as best as possible to counter these threats. The Trust simply does not yet have the capacity to act at the scale they do, and shield the greater galaxy (including the Trust) from the evils to come.
-[X] Argument 2: In light of those threats, an unfortunate possibility must be acknowledged - the Trust could well be destroyed. In that event, any technology we've held back will likely be lost to humanity forever.
-[X] Argument 3: Reciprocation of our generosity is likely. What we are offering is high level to begin with, so they will already be willing to pay highly for them. If they do not reciprocate, then they will appear stingy, especially if one of the other three polities reciprocates immediately as they would look shameful for not doing so.
[X] Vote in favor of greatly discounting Tier 5 technologies.
-[X] Argument 1: If Tier 4 has been discounted, point out that we currenlty only possess one technology at this level, and that while impressive it does not have the same strategic scale impact as the other technologies we have as it can only be produced in limited numbers due to high costs. Bartering hard over a single piece of technology that would have less impact than the tech on the prior tier would appear inconsistent. Should the data jewels provide additional technologies of this tier, the group going to the meeting can decide on whether or not to negotiate harder for them
@Durin
1. Do any of the above arguments sway anyone?
- Location
- madison
i'm a bit leery of holding nothing back rather than holding back something to try and encourage a greater sharing of technology.
Don't forget to put something in regarding that Chaos is about to get superior tech thanks to the Dark Eldar.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
DAMN YOU VECT!
*Shakes fist*
Ya know, I want to propose to the Eldar that they send a message to the Necrons and bring them and the Krork together at table.
There they will all agree they have had their differences in the past...but surely they can all agree on one fact.
Vect must die.
I'm pretty sure if anyone will bring all three groups together in mutual cathartic killing its Vect.
That's included under "threats". I didn't feel like name dropping everything. Rotbart would presumably handle all that in character. These are largely summaries.
Holding something back wouldn't really be a good way to encourage greater sharing of technology. The way we give things out is how we are intending to encourage sharing I'd think. I doubt we're going to be all "alright so we have all this stuff, here have it." Instead we'll probably be more along the lines of, "So... what all do you big fancy types have to trade tech-wise? *see the answer* great, well we'll give you all these techs in exchange for all that stuff. *proceeds to give equivalent worth tech* excellent now that we've gotten past the really low tier stuff. Lets move on to the next level. Now what all do you have that wasn't initially for trade? Because so far none of you seem to have much. Surely you've got better stuff available? No, well here, check out all the rest of our stuff. You sure you don't have anything else? No? Well, alright then. Here you go. Use it well."
Or something else of similar, go in last, make everyone else look backwards in comparison. Ensure everything that can be traded is. I mean, none of them know how much tech we have right? Most trades so far have been on a credit based system. We have way more tradeable stuff available than anyone else. Everything for Everything is our goal, to everyone. So just buy everything from the rest of the polities from the get go. Realize they don't have anything left and we've got tons, and then give the rest out. We seem generous, but also decent negotiators. Or at least, that's the thought.
It seems really unlikely that they'll have enough techs that we don't have to match us in a trade.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
I'm willing to bet cash that they've got s few dozen tricks up their sleeves.
Any polity that big has to have some nice shit. I think you're underestimating the other groups.