The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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Actually now that Turoq is finished, have we any thought as to who Syr should marry and continue the Line of Rotbart?

I was thinking of either someone from Asgard or Muspelheim. Jotunheim and Alfheim are also acceptable; But I think someone from Asgard has the highest likelyhood of Not Dying (TM) to Avernus. Also acceptable for them to stay offworld of course.

How about Jacob adding his badass proto space marine genes to the Rotbrat line would be great also , Syr should marry some one from Avernus shes been gone from the planet for most of her life which could effect how she leads them , marrying an Avernite would fix that
 
Banish literally causes the soul to be ejected from the body and be instantly destroyed, cause it banishes the soul.

All runes acuse horrible horrible things to happen if tattooed into a person.

Say shouldn't Psychic Hoods be much easier to build now with our higher tech level when it comes to construction. Hell I would think we'd be able to make scaled down cybernetic psychic hoods at this point. Even if we couldn't adding power and control runes to them would do wonders.
 
Say shouldn't Psychic Hoods be much easier to build now with our higher tech level when it comes to construction. Hell I would think we'd be able to make scaled down cybernetic psychic hoods at this point. Even if we couldn't adding power and control runes to them would do wonders.
We don't have control runes, we have focus runes and yes we likely have many many more hoods.
 
My list currently is:

Asgard (Blood-Brothers, Pretty good C odds, cement ties)
Avernus (High C, Millions of applicants so can choose a good one easily, -Politics)
Muspelheim (Likely a good candidate somewhere)
Jotuneheim (Garp has children, right?)
Vanaheim (Finding a candidate difficult)
Svartalheim (Does Granalf even have eligible relatives?)
Alfheim (---Candidate Ability)
Niflheim (+++/--- Niflheim)
Byzantium (-----Is this even possible)

There's also the outside possibility that Syr has her own proposal for us, but given she's had a century to petition her dad to let her marry X it seems somewhat doubtful that she has anyone in mind.
I'd say that unless an Avernite candidate is simply absurdly good, we probably ought not to prioritise them. Syr is well respected, so I doubt we need to worry about political discord of any sort.

As you said, someone from Asgard might have the best chance of surviving on Avernus. However, while they'd be respected by Avernites, they might cause discord in other ways. Whereas Avernus seems to have a very collectivist, and broadly egalitarian society, that of Asgard seems to be far more stratified, with an essentially feudal nobility ruling over peasant serfs IIRC. That might potentially lead to some conflict and discontent.

A marriage with Vanaheim might potentially allow us to soothe relations with the conservative faction of the Adeptus Mechanicus that is so influential there. However, we already have ties owing to the fact that Admiral Freyr is Syr's Uncle IIRC, and the progressive faction is steadily gaining ground.

While a marriage to one of Garp's children might help to cement an alliance, I'm not really sure if it's necessary, or if it outweighs the benefits of an alliance with any of the other worlds. If we had more children, then I'd say we ought to be aiming for marriage ties with the rulers of every planet in the Imperial Trust, but at this point I think we should be going for the maximum possible benefits.

I still lean towards Muspelheim as our first choice, everything else being equal between the different candidates. Like us they have lots of resources, and they're also a key source of technology. Together we could exert a great deal of influence on the Imperial Trust, and if they were willing to share more of their secrets with us then we could benefit immeasurably.

In much the same way that Avernus has a population far smaller than many other worlds, yet nonetheless punches far above its weight in terms of importance, the same is also true of Muspelheim. It's an incredibly important world, and I think we should try to bind them to us if we have the opportunity.
 
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I'd say that unless an Avernite candidate is simply absurdly good, we probably ought not to prioritise them. Syr is well respected, so I doubt we need to worry about political discord of any sort.

As you said, someone from Asgard might have the best chance of surviving on Avernus. However, while they'd be respected by Avernites, they might cause discord in other ways. Whereas Avernus seems to have a very collectivist, and broadly egalitarian society, that of Asgard seems to be far more stratified, with an essentially feudal nobility ruling over peasant serfs IIRC. That might potentially lead to some conflict and discontent.

A marriage with Vanaheim might potentially allow us to soothe relations with the conservative faction of the Adeptus Mechanicus that is so influential there. However, we already have ties owing to the fact that Admiral Freyr is Syr's Uncle IIRC, and the progressive faction is steadily gaining ground.

While a marriage to one of Garp's children might help to cement an alliance, I'm not really sure if it's necessary, or if it outweighs the benefits of an alliance with any of the other worlds. If we had more children, then I'd say we ought to be aiming for marriage ties with the rulers of every planet in the Imperial Trust, but at this point I think we should be going for the maximum possible benefits.

I still lean towards Muspelheim as our first choice, everything else being equal between the different candidates. Like us they have lots of resources, and they're also a key source of technology. Together we could exert a great deal of influence on the imperial trust, and if they were willing to share more of their secrets with us then we could benefit immeasurably.

In much the same way that Avernus has a population far smaller than many other worlds, yet nonetheless punches far above its weight in terms of importance, the same is also true of Muspelheim. It's an incredibly important world, and I think we should try to bind them to us if we have the opportunity.

we could always just let Syr decide for her self she is an adult after all and knows she needs a match that will help her planet when shes govener
 
we could always just let Syr decide for her self she is an adult after all and knows she needs a match that will help her planet when shes govener
That's a fair point, but there may be things that we've deduced IC and OOC that she just doesn't know, such as the fact that Muspelheim might have AI of somesort, and almost certainly has tech that would give conservative AdMech members a heart attack. If she's going to make the decision herself, then we need to let her know all the facts beforehand, so that she's aware of the particular advantages that each match might have.
 
Can someone please explain to me why despite having a combat stat of 52 Rotbart doesn't have a combat paragon trait?
 
I know we dont wanna discuss this but a random syr marriage thought and then some naval thoughts. Also repairing ships and our own hulks doesnt need to be paid a tithe equlievants is why we keep repairing ships we dont love btw and they are realtivly fast repairs aswell.

If u wanna go eugenics for syrs husband , then what about marrying her to jacob and hope their children are our genius trait with jacobs unreal combat ?

Also i wouldnt hate marrying again maybe to get a ally on the high council even for more hero tier children hopefully but it isnt a massive priority.

And on the escorts thing , we rebuilt destroyers cause we had the hulks and numbers more or less. Wouldnt hate only building descents in the destroyer range since they are our speciliaty but only doing frigates and escort cruisers for our escorting needs with maybe the light cruisers as a ambush/fast wing to take advantage of our admiral stats with maybe a few battlecruisers as flagships i guess?

Meat of the navy for us apparently thanks to thoughts from valinor invasion was that escort cruisers and heavy cruisers really are very nice sweetspot for against imperial tech and kinda true against orks aswell and we already bought 1000 escorts and 100 heavy cruisers from vanaheim during the last trade with the same tithed to the trust aswell. Apparently some more heavy crusier carriers was a thought to acquire to help transport our strike forces abit better when we arent on avernus mainly was a weakness to patch aswell.
 
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I know we dont wanna discuss this but a random syr marriage thought and then some naval thoughts. Also repairing ships and our own hulks doesnt need to be paid a tithe equlievants is why we keep repairing ships we dont love btw and they are realtivly fast repairs aswell.

If u wanna go eugenics for syrs husband , then what about marrying her to jacob and hope their children are our genius trait with jacobs unreal combat ?

Also i wouldnt hate marrying again maybe to get a ally on the high council even for more hero tier children hopefully but it isnt a massive priority.

And on the escorts thing , we rebuilt destroyers cause we had the hulks and numbers more or less. Wouldnt hate only building descents in the destroyer range since they are our speciliaty but only doing frigates and escort cruisers for our escorting needs with maybe the light cruisers as a ambush/fast wing to take advantage of our admiral stats with maybe a few battlecruisers as flagships i guess?

Meat of the navy for us apparently thanks to thoughts from valinor invasion was that escort cruisers and heavy cruisers really are very nice sweetspot for against imperial tech and kinda true against orks aswell and we already bought 1000 escorts and 100 heavy cruisers from vanaheim during the last trade with the same tithed to the trust aswell. Apparently some more heavy crusier carriers was a thought to acquire to help transport our strike forces abit better when we arent on avernus mainly was a weakness to patch aswell.

I can see the questers wanting her to marry Jacob only for Syr to turn around and be like 'oh hey guys I rolled a nat 100 and married the concept of marriage. Whoopsie!'.

:V

Lets leave the Syr marriage talks for when she's ready. Which I theorize is when she's done with her Naval career and reached whatever is the pinacle of it.
 
Yeah syr is a natural sarnow successor if we dont have anyone good enough to replace him by the way.

also @Durin ,asked this before but havent seen a answer to this.

1) What about getting geneseed and leadership astartes as a reward from the tech trade as a idea ? Since we have valinor to settle anyway currently.
2) Wich legion geneseed would be available if the upper answer is yes from the 4 primarchs or maybe even other loyalist ones if they have spare geneseed for some reason?
2b) My thought on geneseed avaliablity is mainly salamanders and raven guard with maybe for white scars and probably a no for space wolves and no idea on the rest of the legions? Not very interested in smurfs tough since we have our own.
 
She's past her first century already! Forget about Christmas cake, this is ridiculous!

That is true...maybe she's a workaholic? Some people would rather booty call then have a real relationship to focus on there work. You unfortunatley see it a lot in high powered buisness people looking to become CEO's and stuff.
 
That is true...maybe she's a workaholic? Some people would rather booty call then have a real relationship to focus on there work. You unfortunatley see it a lot in high powered buisness people looking to become CEO's and stuff.
It's a good thing we have so much juvenat and whatever else required to keep her eggs fresh.
On further consideration, it's also a good thing we don't have juvenat for more of our population than we already provide, or our birthrate would just take a dive off a cliff.
 
It's a good thing we have so much juvenat and whatever else required to keep her eggs fresh.
On further consideration, it's also a good thing we don't have juvenat for more of our population than we already provide, or our birthrate would just take a dive off a cliff.

Juvenat != immortality

You still have a signifcant chance of dying due to the planet trying to kill you at least 4 times per day or something.
 
You still have a significant chance of dying due to the planet trying to kill you at least 4 times per day or something.
Yeah, but it's clear that it's to reason for Syr's extreme delay of marriage and children.
And if every other woman on Avernus got juvenat as well, even more of them would die from Avernus before reproducing.
 
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