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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Wow wombat, you remember more about my omakes than I do. I've really wanted to do another Amir-ka omake for a while but I'm yet to be inspired.

Hell they're theoretically attacking us now, the Astartes with Atlas are probably the Amir-ka marines rather than an actual chapter. Poor Atlas.
 
Leaving the black sword in the hands of the trust is a worse idea than not stealing or destroying it.

High paragon level heroes are hunting him. So it will be easy to set a trap for them, under the pretense of attacking the trust colony, Areatha and a hero or two will go to him always, so he might as well make the most of it if he's willing to risk his life.

Killing or corrupting the heroes of Avernus should have been his priority, especially Jane Jacob and Areatha or Ridcully. He does not have to target Avernus.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
@Durin
1. How likely is it that Abaddon will be able to defeat the Level 4 by the Eldar's assessment.
2. Do they think he'll be able to recover in time for the next level 4?
3. Which is bigger the Eye of Terra or the Eye of Terror?
4. How long do we think we have before the Dragon frees itself?
5. Based on the best information we have how powerful is the Dragon? I mean its supposedly the strongest C'tan, and is currently in the centre of one of the largest Warp Storms in the galaxy, the centre of A Great God's domain, in the warp which can be best described as toxic lava to a C'tan and is currently winning (slowly).
6. Has Ridcully divined what would happen were the BCS stolen?


Pity. But at least he decided to try and die valiantly.


Yeah, but how many people will seriously consider it even at their most paranoid.
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1. near certain
2. they hope so
3. Eye of Terror
4. more then 50 years, less then 500 years
5. more powerful then anything else active in the materium by an massive amount
6. Avernus would get it back.
 
Saotome Nakazawa said:
Leaving the black sword in the hands of the trust is a worse idea than not stealing or destroying it.

High paragon level heroes are hunting him. So it will be easy to set a trap for them, under the pretense of attacking the trust colony, Areatha and a hero or two will go to him always, so he might as well make the most of it if he's willing to risk his life.

Killing or corrupting the heroes of Avernus should have been his priority, especially Jane Jacob and Areatha or Ridcully. He does not have to target Avernus.
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The deceiver is the being responsible for 40K being in the state it is, if Durin is saying that stealing the blade is a dumb move on par with accepting a deal from the deceiver I'm inclined to accept that.

Yes, but Areatha, Jacob or Jane would wreak his shit and he was terrified of dying. And no it would not be easy, Ridcully means we'd know well in advance and he knows that. Its one of the reason's he's had to play so smart, we knows he'd know we'd know.

That was one of his ideas, but the four you suggested live on Avernus primarily one flat out cannot be corrupted and has fought Exalted Daemons to prove it. Also two of those can very easily kill him the third with the BCS and the fourth can see everything he'd do.

Durin said:
4. more then 50 years, less then 500 years
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5. more powerful then anything else active in the materium by an massive amount
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Durin said:
6. Avernus would get it back.
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@Durin
1. How? Retrieval team?
2. According to our informants how important is the blade?
 
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Durin said:
6. Avernus would get it back.
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Doomed Wombat said:
@Durin
1. How? Retrieval team?
2. According to our informants how important is the blade?
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I'm personally guessing that a black hole (ha!) forms where the blade was and Avernus psychoports it back.
Andres110 said:
Fear not. It's right next to the Eye of Terra. The Chaos Gods will save us.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to throw up.
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Reminds me of that little bit of lore which apparently has Cegorach trying to trick Slaneesh into saving the Eldar.
 
But since Turok has a blind spot like the webway , he could have outsmarted Ridcully by having as many targeted objectives as much as possible, not even Ridcully could see and interfere with every event. whiile always assuming Areatha and high level heroes will always go for him, so he will set a trap knowing that Ridcully will warn them , so either they risk dying or he's left alone, while they stop one of his other plans and either. Ridcully focus on him or focus on foiling his other sub plans. If his insight has a weakness than Ridcully's precog must have a counter too.
 
Saotome Nakazawa said:
Leaving the black sword in the hands of the trust is a worse idea than not stealing or destroying it.

High paragon level heroes are hunting him. So it will be easy to set a trap for them, under the pretense of attacking the trust colony, Areatha and a hero or two will go to him always, so he might as well make the most of it if he's willing to risk his life.

Killing or corrupting the heroes of Avernus should have been his priority, especially Jane Jacob and Areatha or Ridcully. He does not have to target Avernus.
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Problem with that is that we have Ridcully, so just like we couldn't properly set a trap for him (without Eldar) he couldn't set a blatant trap for us.
And perhaps more importantly, he is a coward and would not want Jane or BCS anywhere close to him, daemons in general are terrified of true death and it was probably even worse for him.
 
Saotome Nakazawa said:
But since Turok has a blind spot like the webway , he could have outsmarted Ridcully by having as many targeted objectives as much as possible, not even Ridcully could see and interfere with every event. whiile always assuming Areatha and high level heroes will always go for him, so he will set a trap knowing that Ridcully will warn them , so either they risk dying or he's left alone, while they stop one of his other plans and either. Ridcully focus on him or focus on foiling his other sub plans. If his insight has a weakness than Ridcully's precog must have a counter too.
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You do realise you just described what his actual plan was...the one that just went into practise where we chose to focus our forces on the stronger admech rather than him.

His counter measures were having so many targets and choosing which one to go for randomly before actually choosing hours before the attack started...Ridcully saw through them,.

He would never do that, again Turoq IS A COWARD. He'd never a set a trap that baits the people he knows can kill him.

His entire assault was based on the idea that we'd never be able to catch him since he has the speed advantage and wouldn't bother loosing soldiers to deal with him since we've got bigger things to worry about.

But, never in his right mind would he attempt to bait the beings he's fully willing to kill himself to avoid.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
The deceiver is the being responsible for 40K being in the state it is, if Durin is saying that stealing the blade is a dumb move on par with accepting a deal from the deceiver I'm inclined to accept that.

Yes, but Areatha, Jacob or Jane would wreak his shit and he was terrified of dying. And no it would not be easy, Ridcully means we'd know well in advance and he knows that. Its one of the reason's he's had to play so smart, we knows he'd know we'd know.

That was one of his ideas, but the four you suggested live on Avernus primarily one flat out cannot be corrupted and has fought Exalted Daemons to prove it. Also two of those can very easily kill him the third with the BCS and the fourth can see everything he'd do.



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@Durin
1. How? Retrieval team?
2. According to our informants how important is the blade?
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1. Anything from small retrieval team to unleashing the weapons and great ones to ??
2. Very
 
Doomed Wombat said:
I asked how long till it frees itself from the Eye of Terra...

Chaos won't be able to save us.

The God of Reality is going to return and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.
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Oh, frees itself from the Eye. Thought the question was about freeing itself from its prison on Mars.

How is it that powerful? On the same level as a Chaos God, sure, but I don't see how it could stand up to all of them banding together and sending their forces at it. It's an existential threat to them, and the Horus Heresy shows that they take existential threats to them very seriously. There would be no infighting in their war against the Void Dragon.
 
Shard said:
The Necrons will save us!
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If things really go completely tits-up, the galaxy will play Diplomacy. The board-game.
Chaos, Necron, Eldar, Ork, Man and Tau will sit down around a big table, maybe even invite some Tyranid. It'll all be very awkward, but treaties would be made that no one actually expects anyone will adhere to for very long, but likely for long enough to forestall the end, just the same as has been since the beginning of the Great Game.
As voracious as the Tyranid Queens are, as compulsively dickish as Chaos is, even as Orky as the Orks are, and as dogmatic Mankind is; the big bosses are still capable of rational self-interest, and working around each other's quirks is possible so long as you keep a good distance. Just look at the Eldar proving that they can get over their extreme selfishness, just so soon as they had few enough options left.
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Reminds me of that little bit of lore which apparently has Cegorach trying to trick Slaneesh into saving the Eldar.
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Do share, please
 
Well he may not have a choice but to fight or die, so trap or no trap , they would have come for him.

If you guyys were Valinor or Turok what plans would you have to defeat or cripple the trust?

How would you guys deal with Ridcully a nearly ascendant seer, Jane and Jacob who are a threat to powerful beings,? Areatha? Pretend your playing Valinor or Turok quest.


If the old imperium still existed, would we the players ended up having to fight them to save the galaxy and humanity from themselves like a coup'detat before they become like the Eldar and become mockeries of what a human is?
 
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My general preferences...

[] Wait a week before redeploying the Eldar Warhost to (Asgard)- Becomes available on selected world in one week, nearly no risks on Hvergelmir
[] Wait half a week before redeploying the Eldar Fleet to (Muspelheim)- Becomes available on selected world in four days, cedes control of the Void to chaos for half a week

I'd like to keep our colony safe, which means keeping the Warhost on the ground until reinforcements arrive. Then send them to Asgard, where the big ground war is going to be taking place.
In the Void, the fleet can stay there for a few days and perhaps convince the treacherous lieutenants that they might better seek fortune back at home where they could try to seize power in the inevitable civil war they'll be having there. Then send them to Muspelheim, where they should be able to harass the enemy before they even get to our doorstep.

[] Medium- Make a stand at your orbital defences but retreat before suffering major losses . This will preserve most your fleet and inflict significant damage to Chron's Fleet. This would set you up for a harassment campaign.
[] Valhalla: Hold- Attempt to hold the voidspace around Valhalla but retreat before suffering catastrophic losses. This will take advantage of the fire support from the Forge-Cities and Valhalla to attempt to convince Chron's Fleet to land its armies elsewhere.

Medium route, and let's try to get them to not go for the juiciest targets.

Primary
[] Main Fleet-This will be the main attack force and therefore the easiest target- This is the default option if you want to do as much fleet damage as possible.

Do this while we've got orbital control and our initial torpedo barrage.

Secondary
[] Light Forces- The Light forces will be kept back from the main battle and therefore not easy targets. - Attacking the Light forces will be challenging but will reduce their anti-harassment capacities.
OR
[] Transports- The transports are well protected and will be kept back from the main battle and therefore not easy targets but carry the majority of the invasion force and are fragile. -Attacking the transports will be dangerous but have a major impact on the number of Skitrri that Chron can land.

There are benefits to either.
 
Andres110 said:
Oh, frees itself from the Eye. Thought the question was about freeing itself from its prison on Mars.

How is it that powerful? On the same level as a Chaos God, sure, but I don't see how it could stand up to all of them banding together and sending their forces at it. It's an existential threat to them, and the Horus Heresy shows that they take existential threats to them very seriously. There would be no infighting in their war against the Void Dragon.
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No its done that already.

Because its in reality and can leverage its whole power they can't. They can't even get their exalted into reality at full power.

I don't doubt that chaos will work together to try and beat it, but they can't stop it getting out.

Saotome Nakazawa said:
Well he may not have a choice but to fight or die, so trap or no trap , they would have come for him.

If you guyys were Valinor or Turok what plans would you have to defeat or cripple the trust?

How would you guys deal with Ridcully a nearly ascendant seer, Jane and Jacob who are a threat to powerful beings,? Areatha? Pretend your playing Valinor or Turok quest.
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I wouldn't.

I'd have either handed myself over to The World thus escaping Tzeench or relocated to the other side of the galaxy.

I know we're likely to not have the resources to beat them in the end and eventually something will go wrong and their heroes will catch up.

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My general preferences...
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May not be worth it as these are undevided, but divining plans?
 
@Enjou, if you're setting up for a harassment campaign, like you are by selecting Medium, the Primary should be their Light Forces, which are their anti-harassment ships.
 
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