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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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[X] Spend Eldar Minor Favour for Warhost and seers to reinforce the core battles
[X] Plan Force Distribution 1.0

I would much rather minimise the damage rather than see Turoq permadead. The Eldar visibly fighting on our side will also help push against the xenophobia.
 
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PurposefulZephyr said:
[X] Spend Eldar Minor Favour for Strike Force
[X] Plan Force Distribution 1.0

Thinking back to Headcrusha's invasion- I am now slightly scared of all the innovative technological wonders the Dark Mechanicus will unleash upon us.
I mean it outside the sheer dakka they'll field. Unlike our conservatives, they probably have a number of fun pet projects just lying around.

And now I wonder- is chaos techbane a possibility?

It is, and was, possible. Just very dangerous. Hmmm...

@Durin
1. Would Lin's research on nature of chaos decrease the danger of corruption from researching chaos frequencies?
2. Would Lin's discoveries increase the chance of success for this kind of research?
3. Is Ridcully capable of safely researching this topic, given his Paragon Piety and Blessing of Isha?
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1. yes it would
2. ditto
3. now he is, especially nurgle
 
@Enjou I really think Xavier and Tamia would do better on muspelheim. Note that Muspelhiem are really worried about losing the psyker war, and these two are the best thing we can offer for this. Is Lulanna willing to help us? She's incredibly useful at anti psyker work.

Jane and Jacob are incredibly useful in pretty much any circumstance-I'd be tempted to lend Jacob the Black Crystal sword and have him fight Titans Mano-a-Mano on Asgard.

Also, purely from a viewpoint perspective I think Muspelhiem will be the more interesting fight. I say we should command there just for the flavour :p
 
Piren'e Colass said:
@Enjou I really think Xavier and Tamia would do better on muspelheim. Note that Muspelhiem are really worried about losing the psyker war, and these two are the best thing we can offer for this. Is Lulanna willing to help us? She's incredibly useful at anti psyker work.

Jane and Jacob are incredibly useful in pretty much any circumstance-I'd be tempted to lend Jacob the Black Crystal sword and have him fight Titans Mano-a-Mano on Asgard.

Also, purely from a viewpoint perspective I think Muspelhiem will be the more interesting fight. I say we should command there just for the flavour :p
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Tamia might be better on Muspelheim. Xavier... fuckhuge fireballs on the Nomad Cities is a no. He's in many ways more useful on Asgard.

I could switch up the heroes though. Maybe exchange Jacob and Tamia? I'm open to suggestions.
 
Durin said:
1. it is possible and not stupid. Not saying any more then that as I am not a player.
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So Durin said my plan to use a major favor to set up the beat down on the forces arrayed against us and the other local threats is possible and not a bad move. Is anyone willing to do this instead of breaking up a major for minors at this time?
 
[X] Spend Eldar Minor Favour for Warhost and seers to reinforce the core battles
[X] Plan Force Distribution 1.0

If the darkmech and turoq lose their forces, they're in no position to attack us and there's a good chance turoq will die anyways.

If we kill turoq, then that doesn't make his forces or the darkmech disappear and after fighting them off we still have a forming waagh from tugozak to deal with.
 
Enjou said:
Tamia might be better on Muspelheim. Xavier... fuckhuge fireballs on the Nomad Cities is a no. He's in many ways more useful on Asgard.

I could switch up the heroes though. Maybe exchange Jacob and Tamia? I'm open to suggestions.
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I'd argue Tamia is more efficient against large masses of enemies thanks to siren's song. Also, how good are eldar at taking out capital ships? I know they are good, but it would be good for the relationship if they could play to their strenght and take minimum causalities from helping us
 
I don't think we should move exavier as we need some anti titans work over there and I think he and the phase tigers will be better with boots on ground.

Tamia is more up in the air as telepathy is good for both places and I would be fine moving her to the starforts pretending to be city's as long as we get Jacob in return.
 
@Enjou Tamia should go to Muselphiem since she is very affective at countering the Abomination mind control. Jacob I think should go to Asgard since he excels at small unit tactics, sneaking and killing hero's.
 
Now I worry about a somewhat unlikely scenario.
Turoq is a smart, insightful and rational chaos guy.
He's aware what his chances are at any given moment.

So what will happen if we break his forces and leave him strategically dead?
Would he not come up with some longterm last resort fuck-you sort of move?

If we send Eldar after him, he may become aware of our mutual involvement. (god-tier insight certainly helps, but a strong suspicion would be enough)
Through that, he may go out and try to convince other chaos lords/demons/whoever listens, that it was us who helped with break-in to Nurgle's domain (and he probably knows of that by now, since it's a massive piece of news).

Talk is cheap, and this sort of bad PR will possibly draw some nasty forces against us, giving him one more chance at this game.
That's one of the reasons I prefer the leader decapitation strikes- less loose ends.
 
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PurposefulZephyr said:
Now I worry about a somewhat unlikely scenario.
Turoq is a smart, insightful and rational chaos guy.
He's aware what his chances are at any given moment.

So what will happen if we break his forces and leave him strategically dead?
Would he not come up with some longterm last resort fuck-you sort of move?

If we send Eldar after him, he may become aware of our mutual involvement. (god-tier insight certainly helps, but a strong suspicion would be enough)
Through that, he may go out and try to convince other chaos lords/demons/whoever listens, that it was us who helped with break-in to Nurgle's domain (and he probably knows of that by now, since it's a massive piece of news).

Talk is cheap, and this sort of bad PR will possibly draw some nasty forces against us, giving him one more chance at this game.
That's one of the reasons I prefer the leader decapitation strikes- less loose ends.
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No proof no evidence.

I expect his strategic 'fuck you' would be terminating one of the warlord in Tugozak's domain, allowing unification. He's already been doing that after all.
 
PurposefulZephyr said:
Now I worry about a somewhat unlikely scenario.
Turoq is a smart, insightful and rational chaos guy.
He's aware what his chances are at any given moment.

So what will happen if we break his forces and leave him strategically dead?
Would he not come up with some longterm last resort fuck-you sort of move?

If we send Eldar after him, he may become aware of our mutual involvement. (god-tier insight certainly helps, but a strong suspicion would be enough)
Through that, he may go out and try to convince other chaos lords/demons/whoever listens, that it was us who helped with break-in to Nurgle's domain (and he probably knows of that by now, since it's a massive piece of news).

Talk is cheap, and this sort of bad PR will possibly draw some nasty forces against us, giving him one more chance at this game.
That's one of the reasons I prefer the leader decapitation strikes- less loose ends.
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I rather think he values preserving his life over revenge. He's going to be in a very bad situation personally if he doesn't win here.

Besides, he'd have to lay eyes on ridcully to see isha's blessing and he's with the eldar. Eldar intervention isn't unusual either. It might be seen as anti-turoq rather than pro trust.

Nurgle said:
I think last f you Turoq would give to the trust would be to give the tech he has out to every polity near us and run somewhere else.
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Urge to use major favor to eliminate his domain, rising...
 
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Shard said:
No proof no evidence.
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I wonder if he'd have enough sorcerers and diviners to try and find some more connections between us and Eldar. (like the meetings, or our soldiers being mercenary to eldar)
Though I guess it would draw precious diviners away from uniting orks (not that there's much work left anyway).
Edit: Really it's more based on "talk is cheap" principle- as long as he gets his word out, evidence or no- this idea is planted in their heads. If he can get some evidence? That's better, but not required.
dragon said:
I rather think he values preserving his life over revenge. He's going to be in a very bad situation personally if he doesn't win here.
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If he manages to draw bad attention to us quickly enough, this would act as a buffer between him and Trust.
 
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Nurgle said:
@Enjou Tamia should go to Muselphiem since she is very affective at countering the Abomination mind control. Jacob I think should go to Asgard since he excels at small unit tactics, sneaking and killing hero's.
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Alright, agreed. Jacob is mainly a hero killer anyways, and we've got plenty of those on Muspelheim as is between Surt, Jane, Horatius, and Julius Muspelheim has plenty of those.

Nurgle said:
I think last f you Turoq would give to the trust would be to give the tech he has out to every polity near us and run somewhere else.
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More likely I think he'd supplicate himself to More'lumix, with the tech as his offering for why she should bother. Being someone else's subordinate would suck, but he wouldn't be dead, he'd probably be a favored subordinate anyways, and he's pragmatic enough that he'd likely be willing to go through with it.
 
@Enjou Sorry if I overlooked it or there is a reason for it but I don't see the Varangian scout companies deployed anywhere in the plan. I think they'd be best deployed on Asgard where they can plant locator beacons for targeted artillery and help with harassment.
Might also be a bit light on Psykers for Asgard currently while heavy on Muspelheim since they have all the Execution forces, 2 Daemonologist Alphas, Aria, now apparently Tamia too, Jane the anti-psyker assassins and the majority of our other psykers. Asgard still has close to half their psyker forces deployed to it and while Xavier, Ophelia and 30 choirs can do some work they're still relatively lightly defended against sorcery.

[X] Spend Eldar Minor Favour for Strike Force
[X] Plan Force Distribution 1.0
 
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