The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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As far as you know he does not. You hope it remains that way but suspect that the secret will get out as soon as a Master chaos sorcerer gets a good look at Ridcully
I'd say it's unlikely sorcerers can get a good look at Ridcully but then we have minimal idea of how sorcery works (maybe if the Eldar have Sorcery).
 
1. The above is from a canon omake. Do the nynye worship gods?
Ehhh, as the writer there I just picked Goddess because I thought what might be above royal...

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2. The Empire of Ashes considers us an ally now. What does that mean, in this case? Usually being allies means you can expect aid when you come under attack, like how the Dragon's Nest comes to ours when we're under attack, but I don't know what kind of aid we could usually expect from the Empire of Ashes.
He answered this one, they give us greater creedence, they'll warn us about major things, work with us more etc.

2. If ridacully tried to discover fate of souls humans after death will he get the answer?
We know that Daemons om nom nom.

3. What is the current fate if Alpha Legion
We dunno.

Right, but seriously, there might actually be sensitive materials in those jewels, of non-technological varieties, maybe. I think we should consider that possibility
What sensitive material?

The love letters of people 20,000 years dead?

Sad, but not critical.
 
@Durin

1. The above is from a canon omake. Do the nynye worship gods?
2. If so, are they real?
3. It occurs to me that Ridcully's title is "oracle". Could we buy stuff from the sirens, nynye, and other Avernite races with divinations?
4. How much easier would it be to pin Turoq down for Areatha to kill him if we had his True Name?
1. They don't worship any but believe in their existence. Well know more then believe. You don't believe that the sun exists.
3. You could
4. A lot. Areatha thinks she could use it to prevent him from fleeing if she got onto the same continent as him
 
@Durin

So, you've said that as an Honoubound Favor, the Empire of Ashes would wipe out every Chaos polity and Ork Domain within 1,000 lightyears of the Trust, and that a Major one could be used to destroy Turoq.
You've also said that one Honourbound can be split into three Major favors.

Including Turoq, the Chaos and Ork domains in 200 LY of us total to 242 worlds. If we go out to up to 500 LY of us, the total goes to 4,690 worlds, which makes sense given the amount of space involved when you increase the radius increases exponentially. The numbers similarly scale for overall population, fleet, and army size.

So, my question...

1. Given that the total targets and force that would be needed to eliminate all of the Orks and Chaos within 200 LY of us is less than a third of what is within 1000 LY of us, would a Major Favor be enough to ask to have those wiped out?

And just another question...

2. The Empire of Ashes considers us an ally now. What does that mean, in this case? Usually being allies means you can expect aid when you come under attack, like how the Dragon's Nest comes to ours when we're under attack, but I don't know what kind of aid we could usually expect from the Empire of Ashes.


nvm, this one was answered
1. It would.
@Durin
1. If Lin tried to comprehend current Eldar Gods will he get some sort of buff during the effort due to good relation with humans and Eldars?

2. If ridacully tried to discover fate of souls humans after death will he get the answer?

3. What is the current fate of Alpha Legion and their Primarch?
1. Yes, some major ones due to being able to ask their Psyker worshippers about them.
2. He probebly could. Do you want to know.
3. They still exist and are seemingly scattered into countless war bands.
 
@Enjou i asked already yes a major favor would wipe everyone in 2-300 years out . Or both chaos and orks.

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Edit edit @Durin I know The video just came out but are crotalids real in Embers and 2 as a Australian are you offended by the video.?
 
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1. It would.

1. Yes, some major ones due to being able to ask their Psyker worshippers about them.
2. He probebly could. Do you want to know?
3. They still exist and are seemingly scattered into countless warbands.
About human afterlife yes, I think we need to think a way to deal with if daemons are eating human souls. I think our hellworld got some sort of countermeasures to deal with human souls. I do not think it will allow something that belongs to it falls under hands of chaos.

Can Eldar Death God able to collect human souls and preserve it like it can do in case of Eldars?
 
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Getting transcendence from this after surviving in the first place was asking too much in my book, and even then the DC for transcendence has gone down and the omake cap that we can raise it to has increased after every time.
I mean, you are not going to get Transcendence from things that were easily survivable. Also, losing that 1 Control is largely meaningless, anything that can give you 60th point will give you 59th with ease.
 
Since Exalteds are on par with gods and Areatha beat an Exalted, who would win in a fight, Areatha or Zahak?
 
@Durin
1. I take it that the Chaos Gods will quickly realise that the trust was involved with the infiltration, if we have any major overt displays of eldar assistance like eliminating all chaos and ork polities within 200ly of the trust?
 
@Durin
1. I take it that the Chaos Gods will quickly realise that the trust was involved with the infiltration, if we have any major displays of eldar assistance like eliminating all chaos and ork polities within 200ly of the trust?
It's inevitable that it will be found out, any good enough sorcerer needs only lay his eyes (figurative or not) on Ridcully once and the blessing of Isha will blow that mystery wide open. Durin says so anyway. So either Turoq or a henchman of his will find out when he attacks us, or we call the Eldar to clean up our backyard and let everyone know that way.
 
What sensitive material?
I don't know, but that doesn't mean there aren't such possibilities.
1. I take it that the Chaos Gods will quickly realise that the trust was involved with the infiltration, if we have any major overt displays of eldar assistance like eliminating all chaos and ork polities within 200ly of the trust?
Good point. Fortunately, Eldar are pretty good at subtlety.

@Durin
1. We've still been leasing Hellguard to the Eldar, right?
1a. Now that our debt is cleared, can we keep doing that for favours or resources?
2. We still have that device for contacting the Eldar, right? Because there's still a Divination option for Contact Eldrad Ulthran which seems like a bit of a waste of Ridcully's ridiculously valuable time.
3. Would Marian and Tranth be particularly cross with their governor if we sent the datajewels to the Eldar for decoding?
3a What are the approximate chances that the techno-conservative catch wind it?
 
Since Exalteds are on par with gods and Areatha beat an Exalted, who would win in a fight, Areatha or Zahak?
Zahak almost all of the ti,e. Areatha can beat Exalted but would be outmatched
@Durin
1. I take it that the Chaos Gods will quickly realise that the trust was involved with the infiltration, if we have any major overt displays of eldar assistance like eliminating all chaos and ork polities within 200ly of the trust?
Yes
I don't know, but that doesn't mean there aren't such possibilities.

Good point. Fortunately, Eldar are pretty good at subtlety.

@Durin
1. We've still been leasing Hellguard to the Eldar, right?
1a. Now that our debt is cleared, can we keep doing that for favours or resources?
2. We still have that device for contacting the Eldar, right? Because there's still an option for Contact Eldrad Ulthran which seems like a bit of a waste of Ridcully's ridiculously valuable time.
3. Would Marian and Tranth be particularly cross with their governor if we sent the datajewels to the Eldar for decoding?
3a What are the approximate chances that the techno-conservative catch wind it?
1. Yes.
1a. Ask
2. Good point
3. Not if you sent them under guard and had them find a key rather then provide you with the information
3a goos
 
I don't know, but that doesn't mean there aren't such possibilities.
Such as?

I don't think hilariously out of date battle plans count as sensitive any more.

@Durin
1. Does access to the wonderful tech over whelm the inherent xenophobia?
2. Will Ridcully be returning the Banefire bomb to Areatha or has she said he can keep it?
3. The trait says that the Eldar maybe adding Ridcully to their pantheon in some respect...will we need to wait and see how this develops?
 
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@Durin
1. Do our hellworld safeguards dead human souls or it is only interested in biological/psychic evolution til they are alive?

2. If we request Eldar Death God to safeguard human souls will she/he able to do so? Is it under its preview or it is only limited to Eldar souls?

3. If we want to create a paragon/archetype Human God of Death what will the criteria? I think it was Emperor's preview before his death, does that domain now fall under Starfather's preview or it is still contested?
 
1. Do our hellworld safeguards dead human souls or it is only interested in biological/psychic evolution til they are alive?
IC I believe we do not know.

OOC There is a race of guardians that grabs the souls of interesting and powerful Avernites in general and humans fall under their purview. No idea about less impressive souls.

3. If we want to create a paragon/archetype Human God of Death what will the criteria? I think it was Emperor's preview before his death, does that domain now fall under Starfather's preview or it is still contested?
Not trying intentionally is probably a good start since the warp is watching.

Other than that the abomination did not manage to create a slaanesh like connection with humanity, so I believe there is no god of human souls.
 
Ridcully is helariously above the Trust's weight class in so many ways.
It isn't so much that Ridcully is that far above the Trust's level as the Trust being ludicrously top heavy.

We have more Paragons than we have developed worlds. We have one of if not the best human general alive. We have the Last Saint. We have a warrior able to inflict True-Death and another that is functionally unkillable. We have a regiment of stealth bastards so sneaky no one believes they are mundane. We have multiple alpha psykers. We have entire armies of power armour troops. We have entire legions of Knight Titans. We have a fleet that polities ten times our size would be jealous of.

Anyone hearing about our Extraordinary Assets would ask where the other 99% of the Trust's planets are hiding.


While spending a Major Favour to wipe out all enemies within 200-300ly is very appealing we should hold off on doing so until we build up some colonising potential. Give it a few decades to finish setting up our current colonies and build up for another wave of expansion. Aim for 50 years?

Yes to the data jewels. Yes to reinforcing Lin, assuming the man accepts. Yes to help squashing the coming attack.
 
Locations of treasures, possibly stashes of non-human technology, or just really rad relics. Documents proving ownership of really nice real-space-real-estate (I'm sure there are xenos who honor their contracts regardless of how old). Other key-codes to other stuff (stuff like Roskilde). Or maybe just analyses of non-human tech.
Yes to help squashing the coming attack.
Regarding cashing in such a favor (a minor one, I hope we're on the same page), I think we should word it in a way that avoids waste. We could probably ask for something like "neutralizing Turoq as a threat to the Trust, but not to the rest of their neighbours", or even expand that to "surrounding enemies (Toguzak's old domain, Demagoye and Turoq)".
Even those minor favors seem like really powerful cards, let's get the most bang for our buck.
 
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Anyone hearing about our Extraordinary Assets would ask where the other 99% of the Trust's planets are hiding.
Well the extraordinary assets is actually very short.

Ridcully and the Foundry (you could maybe thrown Areatha in against chaos).

The bar for extraordinary assets is very very high indeed, neither Callamus or Ultramar (the most powerful human polity) have anything that could be classed as extraordinary.

But, yeah our density of paragons is ****ing absurd.

Locations of treasures, possibly stashes of non-human technology, or just really rad relics. Documents proving ownership of really nice real-space-real-estate (I'm sure there are xenos who honor their contracts regardless of how old). Other key-codes to other stuff (stuff like Roskilde). Or maybe just analyses of non-human tech.
Locations of treasures: Worthless to the Eldar we'd likely just spend a favour to get them to retrieve them for us since we're not sending Tranth out again. Also likely long since looted.
Stashes of Tech: Useful only as bribe material and we'd likely just spend a favour to get them to retrieve them for us since we're not sending Tranth out again. Also likely long since looted.
Documents: Worthless to the Eldar we'd likely just spend a favour to get them to retrieve them for us since we're not sending Tranth out again. Also likely long since looted and especially worthless since there maybe the odd people who do that, but somehow I doubt they are many.
Other key-codes: Worthless to the Eldar beyond bribe material we'd likely just spend a favour to get them to retrieve them for us since we're not sending Tranth out again. Also likely long since looted.
Analyses: Ok how in any sense is that valuable.

The Eldar are a level 30+ tech civilisation that uses a completely different tech base, the only interest they have in tech outside of their norm is as fodder to uplift other civilisations and none of that "information" is in anyway valuable.

The only things that maybe of value to them are if its a stash with something like a Moment Shackle in which case I say let the Eldar keep it they can probably use it better than we can.
 
Such as?

I don't think hilariously out of date battle plans count as sensitive any more.


@Durin
1. Does access to the wonderful tech over whelm the inherent xenophobia?
2. Will Ridcully be returning the Banefire bomb to Areatha or has she said he can keep it?
3. The trait says that the Eldar maybe adding Ridcully to their pantheon in some respect...will we need to wait and see how this develops?
1. With grumbling yes
2. He will need to return it
3. You do
@Durin
1. Do our hellworld safeguards dead human souls or it is only interested in biological/psychic evolution til they are alive?

2. If we request Eldar Death God to safeguard human souls will she/he able to do so? Is it under its preview or it is only limited to Eldar souls?

3. If we want to create a paragon/archetype Human God of Death what will the criteria? I think it was Emperor's preview before his death, does that domain now fall under Starfather's preview or it is still contested?
1. Unknown
2. Maybe if you started worshipping her, otherwise no.
3. You don't know but doing so would be very very hard
 
Since Ridcully live in avernus I would be very surprised if he become that chaos God. I mean this whole planet not only hate chaos but have some of very bullshit resources to use.
 
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