The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%
  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%

  • Total voters
    738
Blink Spiders can't be contained, and even if we could they might just get twisted by Tzeentch or something. I'd rather not give Turoq weaponized Blink Spiders.
No but there are other pest tier things we can throw at them.
It has been mentioned that blink spiders could be weaponized agianst us, that life eater fungus would both render planets uninhabitable and would be too easy to weappnise against us, and that plagues wouldn't be very effective, but there are some options still.

For example this poison Lichen we are currently studying, by studying it we're hoping to barely save 1% of metal and material, but we could throw it at Turoq to degrade his efforts by that much without really caring if he tries to turn it back against us.
There are probably dozens of other bits of wildlife which can't easily be weaponized against us, but can degrade Turoq's resources and industry by a few percent each.
It might also be worth trying plagues, just for scratch damage, especially if our currently still-superior medical tech lets us cure it but Turoq has more trouble.

I've just had a new brainwave.

We could use wildlife Omakes to try to create terrible hazards to phases of the resource process, like a nearly undectectable living self replicating pattern in the metal of one region of our planet that could either blow up factories that try to work it or psykicly torment the mines that dig it, that we never noticed because it is preyed on by something living in the air or electrical systems of our cities or in the drill bits of our mining equipment.

That way we have something that could cripple the usefulness of the high metal mining worlds with enough metal for the effect to spread from vein to vein.
With single task disposable infiltrators or our own telepathicaly turned agents able to hit all the mines in even the less resource rich worlds we could cripple Turoq, then if he tried to use the effect against the Trust, we just pull out whatever preys on it, neutralizing the effect, and only then giving him the chance to raid and try to pry the secret to solving the problem off of our worlds.

If it was subtle enough we might even create confusion as to what is causing the effect and cause them to believe they have more usable stocks of a given resource than are actually there, besides forcing them to study Avernite wildlife to avoid devestating economic sabotage.

There are probably orher concievable species that do things like this, not just ones interrupting the resources to Metal and Metal to Material transion, but also the resources to Promethium, Promethuim to Expended Fuel, and Material to Advanced Material transitions.

In short, don't target the invasive species at their population, target them at their economy, and create them with built-in counters, things that can probably also serve as justifications for why we havent noticed them yet.
 
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Honestly speaking, with Ridcully on full-time Divination:Attacks, we should be able to answer all of Turoq's raids simply by good positioning of our forces and possible Minefield positioning.
 
No but there are other pest tier things we can throw at them.
It has been mentioned that blink spiders could be weaponized agianst us, that life eater fungus would both render planets uninhabitable and would be too easy to weappnise against us, and that plagues wouldn't be very effective, but there are some options still.

For example this poison Lichen we are currently studying, by studying it we're hoping to barely save 1% of metal and material, but we could throw it at Turoq to degrade his efforts by that much without really caring if he tries to turn it back against us.
There are probably dozens of other bits of wildlife which can't easily be weaponized against us, but can degrade Turoq's resources and industry by a few percent each.
It might also be worth trying plagues, just for scratch damage, especially if our currently still-superior medical tech lets us cure it but Turoq has more trouble.

I've just had a new brainwave.

We could use wildlife Omakes to try to create terrible hazards to phases of the resource process, like a nearly undectectable living self replicating pattern in the metal of one region of our planet that could either blow up factories that try to work it or psykicly torment the mines that dig it, that we never noticed because it is preyed on by something living in the air or electrical systems of our cities or in the drill bits of our mining equipment.

That way we have something that could cripple the usefulness of the high metal mining worlds with enough metal for the effect to spread from vein to vein.
With single task disposable infiltrators or our own telepathicaly turned agents able to hit all the mines in even the less resource rich worlds we could cripple Turoq, then if he tried to use the effect against the Trust, we just pull out whatever preys on it, neutralizing the effect, and only then giving him the chance to raid and try to pry the secret to solving the problem off of our worlds.

If it was subtle enough we might even create confusion as to what is causing the effect and cause them to believe they have more usable stocks of a given resource than are actually there, besides forcing them to study Avernite wildlife to avoid devestating economic sabotage.

There are probably orher concievable species that do things like this, not just ones interrupting the resources to Metal and Metal to Material transion, but also the resources to Promethium, Promethuim to Expended Fuel, and Material to Advanced Material transitions.

In short, don't target the invasive species at their population, target them at their economy, and create them with built-in counters, things that can probably also serve as justifications for why we havent noticed them yet.
i would not allow you to use wildlife omakes like that
 
I actually must wonder, does Turoq have any plans if the other chaos domains want to suckerpunch him during or even after his great massive battle with the Trust?
 
@Durin, shouldn't we have already done that with the Complete Examination? With In-Depth Examinations we got LEF Deathstrikes, tamed phase tigers, intentionally-created congregation asp strains, kraken cybernetics and knock-out drugs, thundabeast cybernetics, and berserk gas production and delivery systems.
good point, it is not feasible due to issues with training them and the fact that they can not do anything a trained psyker cant do far quicker
 
@Durin I left some comments in the spreadsheet.

Durin I'm scared.

Durin I feel like I should be panicking

durin should I be panicking right now.

i'm not sure i should be panicking.






maybe we should all start panicking

2^3 * 3 * 37
 
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Arachnos Culexus, The Pariah Spider

Named in honor of their unique ability to appear utterly invisible in the warp and for their devious and unknowable nature, the Culexus is the ultimate stealth predator among aboveground arachnid species. The webs woven by the Culexus share its warp-invisibility, seeming to materialize suddenly only when the web has succeeded in capturing the spider's prey. Indeed, the Pariah spider seems to go one step further than even the legendary Culexus assassins; their webs are, to the naked eye, entirely visible- except for their thin strands, there is nothing to suggest that they are in any way concealed from the senses. In spite of this, however, they often remain unnoticed by the mind until it is far too late. It is as if the spiders and the webs they weave exist in a blind spot in the mind's eye.

This is particularly useful in hunting their preferred prey: Blink Spiders.

holy bugger! there is something that eats blink spiders. we should put this in the research que, anything to reduce spider deaths.
 
@Durin I left some comments in the spreadsheet.

Durin I'm scared.

Durin I feel like I should be panicking

durin should I be panicking right now.

i'm not sure i should be panicking.






maybe we should all start panicking

2^3 * 3 * 37
What happened?
holy bugger! there is something that eats blink spiders. we should put this in the research que, anything to reduce spider deaths.
There's the Spiderbane Dragonfly.
 
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Relevant bit starts at 0:07 and ends at 0:13.

We should figure out a way to improve our technology's opposition to the daemonic. Digital wards, aerythmetically designed circuitry, Machine Spirits designed to really really hate daemons, etc. Beating daemons with tech this way is a special kind of satisfying that magic is no substitute for.
 
A cultist uprising? We haven't had those in like a century! The witch-sniffer saturation makes it nigh-impossible for a cult to get up.. unless you mean corruption psykers.
 
The last time Durin was asked what would happen if we had another incursion, he said we'd take half the casualties we did.

whilte that's true, This would be a really bad time for a demonic invasion. Partially because we have a paragon ally who would be out in the open. Also, we cannot afford to deal with a massive rebuilding effort right now. Hopefully, it's just a major plot, or even just a coincidence and not a full-on incursion
 
whilte that's true, This would be a really bad time for a demonic invasion. Partially because we have a paragon ally who would be out in the open. Also, we cannot afford to deal with a massive rebuilding effort right now. Hopefully, it's just a major plot, or even just a coincidence and not a full-on incursion
I mean if Turoq is spending his efforts on the incursion that's a lot of influence he's not spending elsewhere.
 
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