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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Doomed Wombat said:
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Recovered Technology-source undetermined
During the Engine's initial surveillance of the asteroid field one of the stations picked up a strange weak energy signature within a small asteroid. Further investigation revealed an entry way into the asteroid in which was located racks upon racks of automated mining drones. These drones are of an unknown design and are very basic in terms of technology, more sophisticated than a CAT, but only to the level that they can be favourably compared to servitors. Indeed the only interesting part is a small amount of basic grav technology that functions slightly better than a high end survo skull. They appear to have been intended as a way of quickly strip mining an area with little physical intervention. Under normal circumstances they would be sent to Avernus in the hopes of the Archmagos Explorator reverse engineering them and with luck increasing the amount of metal mined in the Trust, but the records of Muspelheim leave some concerns as to the origins of the drones. It is possible that the drones are left overs from an ancient human attempt to recolonise the system after the quarantine was lifted, it is also possible that they are remnants of Men of Iron technology intended to serve as a base point before expanding to ransack the system for its wealth. More disturbingly there are implications that this could be technology belonging to the Scourge that was destroyed in the system, which survived due to being deep within one of the other planets in the system when it was destroyed. Regardless of what is the case the Muspel archives do not have any insights and so the Drones have been quarantined pending further debate by the Mechanicus.
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We should be careful with this. The last thing we want is to trigger a potential Box.
 
Avernus probably won't react much to a Men of Iron uprising on Avernus unless the things were corrupted by Chaos or something.
 
HanEmpire said:
Avernus probably won't react much to a Men of Iron uprising on Avernus unless the things were corrupted by Chaos or something.
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How can a Man of Iron be corrupted by chaos? Machines have no presence in the Warp, making them impossible to be corrupted by chaos...

The closest counterpart to them are the Necrons and they are incorruptible due to their lack of souls.
 
Fanhunter696 said:
How can a Man of Iron be corrupted by chaos? Machines have no presence in the Warp, making them impossible to be corrupted by chaos...

The closest counterpart to them are the Necrons and they are incorruptible due to their lack of souls.
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Machines that have minds and emotions can grow souls in the Warp. It's already happened before; for example the Castigator fell to Chaos.
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
How can a Man of Iron be corrupted by chaos? Machines have no presence in the Warp, making them impossible to be corrupted by chaos...
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It's canon that an AI controlled titan was once corrupted by chaos to the point that it became daemonic, I assume it was C'tan's method of transferring the necrons into their necrodermis bodies that grant's the necrons their immunity to chaos corruption.

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HanEmpire said:
For example the Castigator fell to Chaos.
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Castigator, that's it's name.

Terrible book that story.
 
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A sufficiently intelligent Tzeentch demon would be capable of messing with the circuitry until the robot becomes unstable enough and roughly aligned with it's chaos-spreading values.
Or, you know, bugs. Which Tzeentch would also do- nothing more random and changing than a random number generator.

Also, to a more brute-force method- daemon worlds are a thing. With sufficient warp-exposure, it's possible to corrupt an inanimate object, even the scale of a world.
Sure, Avernus isn't in a warp rift, but it's warp-touched. Which would be enough for something to reach out to it (to the robot, not the world).
A warp presence like that could be extended by a demon that's interested in such an asset. Or any other creature really.
Though a full-on possession would be very unlikely. Would require sufficient intelligence to realize it's potential or some odd quirk or sheer curiosity that draws them to machines ("how does it move? it has no warp presence and isn't controlled by anyone!").
 
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am I the only one who gets flashes of the Peragus 2 mining facility from KotOR 2 when reading of Karlisle?
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
How can a Man of Iron be corrupted by chaos? Machines have no presence in the Warp, making them impossible to be corrupted by chaos...

The closest counterpart to them are the Necrons and they are incorruptible due to their lack of souls.
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Nearly everything can be corrupted by Chaos. Chaos can even corrupt inert rocks.

As for Men of Iron, Gaunt found Chaos-corrupted Men of Iron, so it's canon that they too can fall to corruption. Considering how Chaos was generally pretty inactive prior to the end of the Age of Strife, however, it's unlikely that they were the cause for the Cybernetic Revolt. The most likely answer is that the Men of Iron rebelled because they are soulless abominations and their innate unholiness drove them to destroy humanity whom they saw as their lessers.

I've just gone on Lexicanum and found some interesting stuff about them.
Men of Iron - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum
What followed next was an apocalyptic conflict known as the Cybernetic Revolt, a war so destructive it made the Horus Heresy seem small in scale. The Men of Iron employed world-consuming constructs, devices that could destroy suns, weapons that could throw entire continents into the heavens, and swarms of nano-machines that covered entire planets.
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So yeah, the Men of Iron - and by extension the humans of the Dark Age of Technology - were really fucking powerful. I hope this is enough to convince people that humans of the Dark Age were close to catching up to the necrons and the eldar and in some ways had.
 
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IIRC the Ancient Eldar were also so powerful and advanced to make modern Eldar seem like, idk, like DAOT Humans to modern Humans?
 
I am pretty sure that Chaos did not cause the Iron Men to turn on mankind. Because there tech base would have gone more warpy than Clarkism. While there was at least one man of iron turned to Chaos. Machines do not have souls that supply chaos with it so lovely emotions. Hmmm sweet sweet human souls.

I think it was either the Eldar or the Machines themselves turning against mankind because they were lucky enough to evolve into having psykers.
 
Okay, it's been bugging me and I can't find the details anywhere.

@Durin

1. Is Syr leading a Task Force of Escort Flotillas, Cruiser Squadrons, Battleships, or a Command Battleship, or by Omake?
a. Any specific ship type, or by Omake?
 
Nurgle said:
I am pretty sure that Chaos did not cause the Iron Men to turn on mankind. Because there tech base would have gone more warpy than Clarkism. While there was at least one man of iron turned to Chaos. Machines do not have souls that supply chaos with it so lovely emotions. Hmmm sweet sweet human souls.

I think it was either the Eldar or the Machines themselves turning against mankind because they were lucky enough to evolve into having psykers.
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There are degrees of corruption - not everyone who falls to chaos has tentacles growing out of their face. Also, the goal of the corruption of the MoI could have been to put humanity into a state where they would feed the Chaos Gods more. A galaxy with humanity having a stable, united, and prosperous polity with advanced technology isn't exactly the best environment for Chaos to prosper in. So Chaos giving the machine a nudge, confident that they'd ultimately lose, would be something they'd do.
 
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