- Location
- The Bayou, Everglades
Which one is it you want to pray to?
I don't think it's going to have much of any effect.
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I don't think it's going to have much of any effect.
HanEmpire
Delicious
That places the worshiped individual above his station which I think is the problem.
The proper hierarchy goes:
-God-Emperor
--His Primarch sons
---Their Astartes sons
----Common human
with Living Saints falling somewhere between the Primarchs and Astartes.
Worshiping Humanity as a whole doesn't disturb this setup since it just adds an extra Xeno layer beneath the commoner, but venerating specific individuals and holding them above where they're supposed to be mucks up the divine order.
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- Location
- between Venus and Mars
Astartes sons
Saints
Common humans
Saints may even be even with sons, or above for certain saints on certain planets.
- Location
- England
Where would grey knights fit if they were public knowledge?
- Location
- Australia
Below Saints. We saw them bow to one in this game.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
This is in reference to Living Saints right? There is a significant distinction between bog standard saints and Living Saints. A normal saint is someone who has done something extraordinary during their life, but is still a regular human, and is usually raised to sainthood after death.
A Living Saint is basically the Emperor's version of a Greater Demon with all the baggage that implies. Living Saints are 90% former sisters of battle and have crazy inhuman powers, AKA Saint Celestine from cannon. Lin's honestly on the tamer side of the Living Saint spectrum.
- Location
- Australia
Yes, but I'm not sure if there's any recognised difference in hierarchy between Living and non-Living Saints within the Imperial Creed/Truth.
- Location
- Berkeley
I must say I'm really looking forward to seeing how our Void Infantry do against an enemy who are, well, not Orks.
One thing that we normally have issues with with all our infantry is a massive numeric disadvantage, but that's unlikely to be nearly as much of a problem for the Void Infantry here—not only is the Crusade likely to be significantly limited in the number of Void specialists they have, they ships themselves can only carry so many soldiers and it would be extremely difficult to bring numbers to bare in this sort of fight anyway.
It would be even worse if the Abomination worshipers carry forward the Imperial tradition of shit-tier naval armsmen. Which would be funny, but would also be such a stupidly glaring weakness in this new galaxy that I doubt even they can accept it.
One thing that we normally have issues with with all our infantry is a massive numeric disadvantage, but that's unlikely to be nearly as much of a problem for the Void Infantry here—not only is the Crusade likely to be significantly limited in the number of Void specialists they have, they ships themselves can only carry so many soldiers and it would be extremely difficult to bring numbers to bare in this sort of fight anyway.
It would be even worse if the Abomination worshipers carry forward the Imperial tradition of shit-tier naval armsmen. Which would be funny, but would also be such a stupidly glaring weakness in this new galaxy that I doubt even they can accept it.
- Location
- madison
I dunno, I think it would fit them perfectly. I mean the old imperium dealt with it, no reason they wouldn't. they may mitigate it with demons, but I suspect they are shit in a boarding fight without marine support.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
1. they have a few but not enough for anything resembling massed assault@Durin
1. What about mechanical teleporters? As in do they have many?
2. Actually that reminds me do they have any Nova Cannons available to them?
3. What do our people and Rotbart think of our ability to contest the skies? Between the milita air force and the Helltrooper Airforce with super planes do they give us decent odds?
4. Are drop pods able to bypass void shields? As in should we expect a rain of astartes falling on our heads?
5. Out of curiosity what would it mean for the Abomination troops to have failed a moral roll? They've practically no will of their own as far as I can tell, so what happens if they fail their moral roll despite the...+200 to it from the abomination?
And we're not going into an even fight
2. yes, dozens
3. you will have the advantage
4. yes
5. they lose d6% of
- Location
- England
While they probably do, it probably doesn't matter in this case as every ship will be packed full with guardsmen, seeing as they have plenty spare.
... I just realized something.
We're currently on the wrong end of an Imperial style Crusade.
We have a veteran of being on the wrong side of an Imperial Crusade on our side.
@Durin
1. Had we thought of it before now, would some sort of "Lessons Learned" action with Aryz have been worth anything? Or does our institutional experience with Imperial Doctrine trump any insights he could have provided?
We're currently on the wrong end of an Imperial style Crusade.
We have a veteran of being on the wrong side of an Imperial Crusade on our side.
@Durin
1. Had we thought of it before now, would some sort of "Lessons Learned" action with Aryz have been worth anything? Or does our institutional experience with Imperial Doctrine trump any insights he could have provided?
- Location
- Germany
Yes. Every related death feeds the Dark Gods, be it the death of their faithful, or caused by them.
There's a reason Khorne doesn't care whose blood flows.
- Location
- Sweden
Every death does resonance with the Warp, but only a skilled sorcerer would be able to use them as a sacrifice. But that's assuming the suicidal charge isn't part of the ritual in the first place.
Or as Durin put it:
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Probably, it bases itself off the Imperium.
Whether or not a sorcerer is on hand to use em right off the bat is another matter.
- Location
- USA NYC
Five Thrones says they do not call the Chaos Sorcerers sorcerers. They are the memetic Imperium who would never be caught dead with vile Witch's.
- Location
- The Bayou, Everglades
Saints, then? Performing "miracles"?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Nah wager that's just important people.
Their Daemon princes are living saints so I'd wager their Chaos Lords are saints... I guess?
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
I think they would use Ministorum's ranks for sorcerers, lower ranking being Deacons and such, while higher ranking one will be Cardinals, Ecclesiarchs and eventually Saints.
- Location
- The Bayou, Everglades
Too many saints.
Better.
- Location
- Berkeley
@Durin
A few questions for some omake ideas I've had.
A few questions for some omake ideas I've had.
- Is a significant level of knowledge outside of one's specialization rare/unheard of in Abomination forces? Specifically, does Herrion have any real knowledge about practical Void warfare outside of things like 'this is a bad exchange rate'.
- Does the supernatural cohesion and cooperation in Abomination-worshiping armies also apply across services, or is some degree of friction/misscomunications possible between things like their naval forces and infantry?
- Do Abomination forces have the same skill gap as 'memetic Imperium' between their naval armsmen and their real infantry?
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
1. not that rare, many understand the basics of related professions
2. it does
3. yes
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
...Shotguns and pikes and t-shirts against Avernite Voidsmen.
Guys?
How does taking a page out of the Ork's playbook sound?
Guys?
How does taking a page out of the Ork's playbook sound?