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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
Right the (hopefully) official divination bucket list
Any comments or things I should add?
Basically a place to store all the greater divination things we want to see
These are things we should probably do ASAP
What is the Destroyer
How are Ultramar/the Tau doing
What are the Eldar doing besides everything
Current situation of the War in the Void
Everything about the Krork
Eldar pantheon/other minor warp deities
Armageddon (we probably know it's ork central)
Locations of major ork sites
Abomination Crusade Fleet
Where are the Psykers Tzeench is taking going too and why is it taking them
What is the Destroyer
How are Ultramar/the Tau doing
What are the Eldar doing besides everything
Current situation of the War in the Void
Everything about the Krork
Eldar pantheon/other minor warp deities
Armageddon (we probably know it's ork central)
Locations of major ork sites
Abomination Crusade Fleet
Where are the Psykers Tzeench is taking going too and why is it taking them
Good to know, but probably not major unless they suddenly become important or we've got a spare time slot
Other major polities in the galaxy human or otherwise
Activities of the Dark Eldar (including where those chaos
experiments are going)
Primarchs (potentially jumping in importance, but at the moment I'd assume it's not a major priority)/important champions against the orks
Ahriman's activities (Of the Five he's the one that worries me the most. Worse Durin is specifically planning his moves)
Dark Mech activities
Major polities in the area that we don't know off (i.e USA)
Super Weapon in chaos polity near by
Info on the nearby Cron polity (assholes, not assholes ect)
Survey changed warp routes
Other major polities in the galaxy human or otherwise
Activities of the Dark Eldar (including where those chaos
experiments are going)Primarchs (potentially jumping in importance, but at the moment I'd assume it's not a major priority)/important champions against the orks
Ahriman's activities (Of the Five he's the one that worries me the most. Worse Durin is specifically planning his moves)
Dark Mech activities
Major polities in the area that we don't know off (i.e USA)
Super Weapon in chaos polity near by
Info on the nearby Cron polity (assholes, not assholes ect)
Survey changed warp routes
This is stuff I'd like to know, but is so far down the priorities list for one reason or another that we'll probably never do it
STC
Sept
Surt
Muspelheim bribe
Movements of Aminach the Golden (Keeper of secrets who cursed Julius and Lin pissed off)
ect.
Note that this will not stop me from occasionally trying to get the STC scanned
STC
Sept
Surt
Muspelheim bribe
Movements of Aminach the Golden (Keeper of secrets who cursed Julius and Lin pissed off)
ect.
Note that this will not stop me from occasionally trying to get the STC scanned
Any comments or things I should add?
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- Location
- Brazil, Minas gerais
I don't know if this count as subsidiary divination. But warp rotes maybe? The yell of the Orcs and their presence in the warp probably altered dangers , ways and what notions are in work in that place. And that can certain kill more people than even the destruction of the ships in the warp when the orc gods start to actually fight.
Another one is how the demons are entering warp avernus which our favorite seer that is also a fanatic hunter (if hunt with best hunt is a example of his taste while doing his hobby) had said that is more dangerous that 'normal avernus'.
Now I am being really silly but maybe if we don't have anything better to do (which be do) sell the great divination for our local 'aquatic eldar' or the space eldar when we find then. Or in a more sane way we could do the same to the trust? I know that the inquisition would exterminatus for his talent in the past (and even now I think)
Another one is how the demons are entering warp avernus which our favorite seer that is also a fanatic hunter (if hunt with best hunt is a example of his taste while doing his hobby) had said that is more dangerous that 'normal avernus'.
Now I am being really silly but maybe if we don't have anything better to do (which be do) sell the great divination for our local 'aquatic eldar' or the space eldar when we find then. Or in a more sane way we could do the same to the trust? I know that the inquisition would exterminatus for his talent in the past (and even now I think)
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
We've probably got good enough navigators ect. to compensate, but I'll add it to medium.
I did forget something similar.
Don't forget Armageddon/Ullanor and Ghazkhul, those are prime sources of Beast info.Right the (hopefully) official divination bucket list
Basically a place to store all the greater divination things we want to see
These are things we should probably do ASAP
What is the Destroyer
How are Ultramar/the Tau doing
What are the Eldar doing besides everything
Current situation of the War in the Void
Everything about the Krork
Eldar pantheon/other minor warp deities
Armageddon (we probably know it's ork central)
Locations of major ork sites
Abomination Crusade Fleet
Where are the Psykers Tzeench is taking going too and why is it taking them
Good to know, but probably not major unless they suddenly become important or we've got a spare time slot
Other major polities in the galaxy human or otherwise
Activities of the Dark Eldar (including where those chaos
Primarchs (potentially jumping in importance, but at the moment I'd assume it's not a major priority)/important champions against the orks
Ahriman's activities (Of the Five he's the one that worries me the most. Worse Durin is specifically planning his moves)
Dark Mech activities
Major polities in the area that we don't know off (i.e USA)
Super Weapon in chaos polity near by
Info on the nearby Cron polity (assholes, not assholes ect)
Survey changed warp routes
This is stuff I'd like to know, but is so far down the priorities list for one reason or another that we'll probably never do it
STC
Sept
Surt
Muspelheim bribe
ect.
Note that this will not stop me from occasionally trying to get the STC scanned
Any comments or things I should add?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Armegedon's already in the Major section, Ghazkhul isn't added because he's dead as far as we know.
- Location
- Leicester UK
I'm strongly against warp spying on trust members on principle, I dont want to cross that line.
I'd add that daemon prince who's curse we lifted, I dont want Slanneshi daemons with hate boners creeping about.
Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
That's why it's in the subsidiary section
I'll add, but it'll be subsidiary for now.
- Location
- The Bayou, Everglades
That seems too specific, too focused for Greater Divination and more like Focused Divination.
Doomed Wombat
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- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Greater divination is just that, it's better divination larger in scale, quicker hovers up more information ect.
We don't have to use it on general things it's just better for it.
- Location
- Brazil, Minas gerais
I don't know why but I am thankful for this is not a cross-over with bloodborne, because 'grant us eyes'.
- Location
- Australia
This information is useless to us.
The Dark Mechanicus is very irrelevant. They only exist to give an excuse for how the Chaos Space Marines maintain their gear. They are of zero galactic importance. Anything important they are involved with is better discovered by looking at the activities of Chaos Space Marines.
"Nearby Chaos super weapon" is not something of merely medium importance.
The sum total knowledge of all Mankind is not supplementary (which is the word you want to use, not subsidiary). Nearby archeotech is also worth looking for.
At best, this information is useless to us. If this information would've been good for us to know, we'd know about it. It's likely that knowing the truths behind these things will only lead to bad things.
Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
Why?
Ultramar is probably the largest remaining human polity around with the highest concentration of marines and the Tau are our only technological peers... and one of the largest polities around.
They're beating the crap out of each other. Knowing what they're up too seems like a good idea so we can plan around it.
Armageddon as has been noted by several people is ork prime for one reason or another so knowing what's going on there seems important
War in the void is essential because it'll let us know whether we can expect Silent King cavalry or whether or not we're going to have to get ready for the Grand Devourer to come charging in on top of the orks.
To most people maybe to us they're a big threat (technology baby).
It was noted by the security council that they're one of the foes most likely to come after us so finding out if they even know about us is a good thing.
It'd certainly be good for the paranoia especially as they're a foe that could do some damage with Ark Mechanci and corrupted titan legions.
Eh they're currently fairly unlikely to use it against us, so it's there for now.
It's also likely something we'll figure out due to our spies/stealth ships.
It's not, the data on the STC's been destroyed beyond recovery (we've already gotten everything that survived on it).
Fixing it is just that repairing an STC with all that implies depending on how @Durin has interpreted the capabilities of the Constructor itself (so it could be a machine able to spit out high quality schematics, or it might just be a data base).
However the main reason it's there for now is because @Durin has frequently warned us that if we had gotten a complete STC chaos would have thrown everything at us (and apparently he was being very literal). As we don't know the potential consequences of fixing one I'm prepared to hold off for now.
Maybe, who knows.
Its there because we're very likely to never use Ridcully in that manner.
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- Australia
It's too far to affect us or be affected by us.
Good point.
I thought "STC" meant looking at a full STC from the distant past and essentially get all technology that way, or else find an intact STC somewhere in the galaxy.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
So?
So was the awakening of Gork and Mork and a ton of other stuff it still lets us plan for what's going to happen.
Knowledge is power and knowing whether or not we're going to be drowning in Nids, or Segmentum Ultima or Solar (what's left of it) has been taken over by orks is pretty damn important if you ask me.
Especially since that will effect us very shortly afterwards.
And you know Ridcully is a galactic scale actor now, chances are that soon we might be able to pass the information onto the Eldar who can do something about it.
Ultima's also where the Khan's showed up so he'll hopefully be able to take over Ultramar and use it as a power base.
I don't know if he can see that (and I'm not asking). Even if he could it probably wouldn't do us much good as he'd probably never be able to transcribe that much information even with Tranth's help.
What he can do is look back and see the construction of the STC damaged STC we have stashed in Mag Mel which is valuable in and of itself.
Oh and I already asked about archeotech sites, no dice unfortunately Imperium's been picking over this area since the Great Crusade and has got pretty much everything.
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- Australia
Incorrect. It was not something we thought wouldn't affect us and the event proves that it was something which could affect us.
Like what?
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- Australia
It is pointless trying to find out. We can't stop whatever they're doing and if they send Ullanor at us there'll be nothing we can do about it.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
So's the Silent King winning or being forced to retreat, or the Orks taking a Segmentum which will push them to Last Stand at a minimum or learning that Ultramar and the Tau are focusing on the Orks rather than each other implying that we won't have to worry about the largest segmentum in the Imperium going green.
Learning about Ultramar is also good because it's probably where Khan will go first. Chogoris is in Ultima after all.
Learning of the war in the Void, almost all the info we got pre leaving the warp storm (yeah I know not divination) learning why the Ork Gods are waking up ect.
To clarify yeah this is true as the Beast Arises has been confirmed as Embers canon, so the Orks cobbling Armageddon into a functioning war world is a possibility.
Of course it's possible the Krork will turn up and try to retake the world and reactivate it for their own use, either way it's important.
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- The Bayou, Everglades
We could tell the Eldar and they can tell everyone else. A model of inter-sector cooperation to work towards. Unless the Eldar already know.
But people, as long as we still agree that we want to divine on the Eldar this turn, I think the more important question is if we don't want to change the phrasing in the current plan.
I think we should focus more on the Eldar currently handling the Krork. I admit, I haven't been following what's been going on with the DE and Exodites, but maybe leave them out of this divination so we get more information about the Eldar that matter most.
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Odds are that they're likely all dead; In the Eldar interlude it had noted that the Eldar heading out to find the Krork would most likely die to the last Eldar. The ones we should be investigating however are the ones that were tasked to survive. And if we want find out more about the Krork we could just divine them instead.
Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
Last we heard the DE have been driven from Commorragh and the Dark Muses (their sorta gods, who were assholes) are dead.
Lots of them converted to follow Ynnead (hopefully this includes the Incubi, but I won't hold my breath), but the rest (including Vect) fled to the materium where they have scattered, presumably setting up colonies similar to Fyjol.
Like all eldar their connection with Slaanesh has been cut so no more thirst, what this means is currently unclear, but it's likely that most won't change their habits despite this.
This may mean that all DE are currently growing stronger as the energy they absorb is not being eaten by Slaanesh, but equally they may have lost the ability to do that.
What we do know is that they have access to Psycic powers again and a group of Homonculi on the Fyjol colony were experimenting with Daemon possessed pain engines. While we destroyed their prototypes the Homonculi in question were long gone by the time we showed up.
I think he means something more like how the Krork and Eldar are interacting, power relationships ect.
That being said we'd probably get more info on the Krork themselves if we just divine the Krork.
- Location
- The Bayou, Everglades
Well if the Eldar aren't likely to be actively orchestrating this shitstorm of current events anymore, then why are we divining on them as the first thing?
- Location
- Australia
Between Eldrad's act of non-dickishness (!) and bringing the Khan back, there's a good chance we'll be able to work with them.