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How many years away is it from us?
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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I meant the Atlas techpriests that escaped to Dragon's Nest. They're the reason why the Blood Dragons have those advanced Forge-Cathedrals and Cathedral-Forges.
I doubt they've revealed all the advanced tech they have for trade. Once we trust each other more we can see if they have Imperator Titans.
500 light years, which is two years travel each direction with Navigators, IIRC. Bad news: It's significantly less for them due to them being Chaos worshipers now. Let's hope that something else wiped them out or will do so, provided whatever that is isn't more horrible and gained permanent benefits from doing so. Super Orks managing to take a Forge World would be rather bad, at least until they ran out of fancy scrap to use.
Durin already said they don't have Titans. They didn't manage to escape with every bit of tech - for example, they didn't have the Automated Forges, in spite of the fact that we'd already traded that to Atlas. (which means the DarkMech probably has them now) Hell, they didn't even have all the Imperial economic STCs that we got from Atlas. Most likely they didn't keep all their knowledge in a single place, what with security concerns and general paranoia.
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Shit, is that all? Explorator Fleets would sometimes go decades without stopping to resupply in the Imperium. Two years is peanuts. Going there, spending a year there, and coming back would take just a single turn. We should totally raid the planet for technology if that's how little it takes to go there.
Speaking of technology, perhaps we should have Ridcully search for Dark Age superweapons for us to claim?
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1. It's a significant Forge World. Raiding it will take a very large force of both ships and men, and those ships and men would not be available to defend the Trust for four years.
2. Failure would mean several examples of our technology falling into the hands of the DarkMech on a Forge World for reverse engineering.
3. Explorator Fleets still had the benefit of the Astronomican - even if they didn't need resupply for decades, they could get back to Imperial space in a matter of months at worst. If our fleet had to retreat, they'd be at the mercy of the faster in the Warp Chaos worshipers.
4. ANY TECH RECOVERED WOULD BE TAINTED BY CHAOS!!!
So not thinking that's a hot idea.
Durin's already commented on this suggestion, and the chances of finding anything by him searching randomly are pretty much nil.
HanEmpire
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Then the solution is simple: Exterminatus.
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The other points you made were valid. I believe we could handle the risks you pointed out, but I do acknowledge that there is indeed risk and the price of failure would be significant. This point that the recovered tech would be tainted by Chaos, however, is in my opinion invalid.
Saint Lin is capable of purifying items of Chaos corruption which makes this a non-problem on its own, but there's also the fact that techsorcists exist. Their job is to purify technology of Chaos corruption, so Lin isn't even required to make Chaos-tainted technology usable.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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Taking Chaos-corrupted tech through the Warp sounds like an awful idea to me.
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The idea was the Lin and co. would do the purification in realspace before making their way back to the Trust.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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...You want to send Saint Lin off to an Abomination-cursed Forge World.
You do not have my support. At all.
If these scenario happens it will have to wait till after the ork gods wake up. Saint Lin may be dead by than. Remember his soul is burning out from being a saint.
Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
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Yeah by the way Lin is going to die because of the sheer FORCE of being so holy. He has so much Holy power in him that it's actually disintegrating his very soul which is bad.
Which reminds me..if Lin dies and there are no more holy powers in the universe (for us anyways) then would that mean we would have to hope that no one needs inspection via holy magic? I mean how could you identify a traitor then? COnventional means only go so far...
Which reminds me..if Lin dies and there are no more holy powers in the universe (for us anyways) then would that mean we would have to hope that no one needs inspection via holy magic? I mean how could you identify a traitor then? COnventional means only go so far...
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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- Right behind you.
Black Crystal causes em pain, remember?
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- Australia
If Living Saints were necessary to identify traitors or those corrupted by Chaos, the Imperium would've fallen long ago. Lin is useful but absolutely not necessary.
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- The Void
Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
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- Fólkvangr
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- Brazil, Minas gerais
Its a shame, well great man live thanks for their actions even after they die, plus I think that still things that we can do to remember him and fight for what he believe^^.
I didn't want to comment this, but when he is closer to death and with that 'produce' his 'holy site' (of peregrination and divine presence), would not be a better idea to prepare a place outside our planet? since Avernus will probably 'erase' the presence in the warp that he produce. The same for his bones
I hate what humanity need to do to survive in warhammer.
There is nothing we can do for pass a portion of his 'power' to successors? like the harmonic tree of the psyker, like allowing young children with 'pure of the soul' to receive a purification (the idea is to mould their warp presence) or a some other idea (I guess not since if there was a way the inquisition and everyone else would do that already).
I didn't want to comment this, but when he is closer to death and with that 'produce' his 'holy site' (of peregrination and divine presence), would not be a better idea to prepare a place outside our planet? since Avernus will probably 'erase' the presence in the warp that he produce. The same for his bones
I hate what humanity need to do to survive in warhammer.There is nothing we can do for pass a portion of his 'power' to successors? like the harmonic tree of the psyker, like allowing young children with 'pure of the soul' to receive a purification (the idea is to mould their warp presence) or a some other idea (I guess not since if there was a way the inquisition and everyone else would do that already).
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What about the creation of a Holy Relic?
If he put the power into an item instead of a person he would still remain the Last Saint and we might be able to get a nice Artifact out of the deal.
We might have to push hard into the Psychic Materials tech tree but it should be possible.
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True Metal Power
Lisa: The Hintful
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Speaking of Saint Lin... Can he become a Princeps? Because they leave part of their soul and personality in the Titan after their death.
Nitpick. IIRC they were conquered by Dark Mechanicus rather than falling to Abby. That's even worse.
And it probably happened because we gave them so much fancy tech. Some butterflies aren't pretty...
Nitpick. IIRC they were conquered by Dark Mechanicus rather than falling to Abby. That's even worse.
And it probably happened because we gave them so much fancy tech. Some butterflies aren't pretty...
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Dude, enough with the princeps already. I dig giant robots plenty, but this is getting silly.
ArchAIngel
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I mean giant HOLY stompy robot is a hilarious idea but Lin would need a lotta training and I don't think he has the time left for that.