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They're feudal knights not mercenaries. We can't buy them like that. Just give up on the knights.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Throne Mechanicum - Lexicanum
All the old users of the knight will say no.
According the knights codex the modification to make it genetic was well was to ensure loyalty and that it was kept in the family.
Nope.
Freeblades stopped being a thing now and knights already come to Avernus for training.
It gave us a tiny reduction in casualties, but more experience for them
He still has it.
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Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
- Location
- Fólkvangr
Thousands?
I'm surprised that Asgard has space for so many Titans and the logistics to maintain them.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Well they're Knight demi titans (not nearly as large or resource intensive) so their problem is lack of pilots rarther than access to titans.I'm surprised that Asgard has space for so many Titans and the logistics to maintain them.
They also produce plenty of AM and EM to sustain themselves.
Put in terms of ships:
Warhound = Escort.
Reaver = Light Cruiser.
Warlord = Cruiser.
Imperator = Battleship.
We only have the first three.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
So where do Knights fall under that? Too big for Strikecraft.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Knights are the escort.
The thing about Emperor class titans is that they are so rare and powerful that they are more anologeous with Gloriana warships, with the Warlords (rare, but more common) being the battleships.
So the scale should really be something like
Secutarii--> Fighter craft
Knights--> escorts
Warhounds-->Light cruisers
Reaver-->Cruisers
Warlord-->Battleship
Emperor--> Dreadnought
Acording to the lexicanum the Warlord is the most numerous Imperial Titan. How we ended up with so many Reavers and Warhounds compared to our three Warlords is a mystery.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
And if that is true in Embers I'll be surprised.
In canon my guess is probably that the Warlord is large and simpler (at the end of the day its nothing fancy) than the smaller Reaver and Warhound, which are smaller, but have fancy additions to make them move faster at its size, an oddly placed reactor ect. ect.
The Warlord is also noted to be the test bed for modifications and research for the Divisio Investigatus and so a simpler (and more easy to produce) design is needed for it and many being produced to test said improvements.
It helps too that they are also incredibly durable, more so than their smaller counterparts, and thus are more likely to make it through the mellenia.
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Specifically it says it's the most numerous Battle Titan. Warhounds are considered Scout Titans, so probably aren't counted in regards to this. My guess is that Reavers are less commonly used because they're somewhat more niche, which may also be why we were able to buy them.
Then again, we can always blame this detail on GW derpiness.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
And Castigator is Command Battleship or Superdreadnought. That fits.
I can't wait for us to start tech heresy next turn. Hmmm sweet sweet heresy. Unfortunately depending on the option we get it may be more prudent to do other projects. Like if it takes Scott a action to deregulate am production. Something we need and that the Trust needs as a whole. Or Tranth doing weapon research. Well let's cross our fingers.
KlavoHunter
THOU SHALT WORSHIP NO GODS ABOVE ENTERPRISE!
There's many weight classes of escort, as Rogue Trader will remind you. Let me try this myself quick:
Secutarii--> Fighter craft
Knights--> Raiders
Warhounds-->Frigates
Reaver-->Light cruisers
Warlord-->Cruisers
Emperor-->Battleships
Castigator--> Dreadnoughts
- Location
- Australia
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
I mean, it'd be very Warhammer...
But eh, if they're here, it's the Archmagos's job to deal with it. Plus we've got a system that's bloody good vs cultists, Admech are likely helping out on purely FUCK CHAOS grounds.
- Location
- Australia
That is not at all in the slightest frivolous. A single Emperor Titan is capable of burning an entire world on its own. Emperor Titans are such incredibly powerful machines, their power is determined by how many Warlords they can kill before they get damaged. Even orbiting warships have to fear being destroyed by their guns. Only an Alpha, or perhaps a very powerful Beta, could match the firepower of an Emperor Titan.
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ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
The frivolous part is that it'd be nightmarish to even find one, yet alone fix it.
It's just not worth the effort to go find one right now, not when we can do things like fuck up the local Orks or spy on Gork and Mork. Or Mork and Gork.
- Location
- Australia
Not really. Finding one has a 20% chance of success before bonuses. Fixing one would probably be in the 30-50% range before bonuses.
Shopping for a Tutor
Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
- Location
- Fólkvangr
Omake - Shopping for a Tutor
Jane's time with Jacob was probally the happiest she's ever been in her entire life. Every second of every day was jovial and where the world itself was a much brither color. An yet Avernus was still Avernus. An eternally and around the clock lethal world where survival is given not to the weak or the foolish but to those who are BOTH strong and intelligent. Jacob had amazing insticts and an amazing sponge like mind that could soak up knowledge as well as any facts or behaviors. She had him tested thoroughly for corruption for those reasons to make sure it's not a plot of some kind (she was still the chief Arbiter afterall).
She had been teaching her alot about the way of the sword, combat, and the few social techniques that she possessed when dealing with subordinates and colleagues. But she could not always be there to whip and guide Jacob to become a true citizen of this world. He needed the tutoring of someone who knows the issues of this world personally and who could relate better to a fellow Avernite.
An so I set a meeting with Samantha Khol the Ice Queen of Avernus Spine. A woman who rules the battlefield with exceptional strategies and ruthless pragmatism. Born of a Deathworlder and an Underhive and raised in a tent in long gone Helms Deep. With years of judging characters and facial features even I couldn't read Khol...
"So you want me to tutor him? Do I look like I have time to a Babysitter Jane?"
"I know your occupation well Marshall" I stressed the titles "leaves you with little time sometimes but I feel Jacob could be a real asset for Avernus in the future." I finished courting her interests as a fellow survivor.
For her part Khol just clucked her tongue and shook her head. "I know alot of mothers who have stated the same thing Chief Arbiter but I categorically declined being someones tutor. Besides I think someone like you is more than qualified to tutor the young boy." she finished by sipping her drink. Her guards, The Frozen Remnant from the looks of them, shuffled as if getting ready to leave. At least though them I can get some kind of reading on Khol.
"Jacob's instincts are in whole league on there own. He's not a hot blooded animal though but still lacking in tools to be a real Apex Predator. He can keep on with the still training SEO's and knows military ranks and militia level strategies by heart. If you took him under your wing he'll easilly be an amazing Marshall."
"An Apex Predator? High praise from a mother and oh so original." Khol began "Talk to Marshal Hye Richards she's more of a mentoring type afterall and she did teach Syr alot about being a General and look how she turned out. A Lieutenant General who dropped her stars to become a Navy Rate and now a solid Captain in the Imperial Trust Navy. Someone like me would never be able to mentor or teach anything to anyone else."
Damnit i'm losing her...An I only have two more cards to play in this game. One is making them siblings by way of terrible upbringings and the other is her father. As an underhiver his mind is scewed into getting in trouble with gambling dens and at *taps. If everything fails I can just threaten her but that won't make her a very good mentor.
"Marshal please-"
"I have said no twice Chief."
"But he's just like you!"
Khols eyes harden at that almost immediately. It's a reaction in the normally cold exterior glacier that is the Ice Queens face.
"He lost his parents and had a hard life in the orphanage with other kids. He saw alot of his poor friends die as well as hears about there demises still to this day. I need someone as succesful like you to help guide him through life. Please!" It's not many times I get desperate. I'd never even use that word for myself or my Arbiters when asking for a budget. I hate looking weak but when you have a baby boy's future depending on you it no longer is about you. My life is now to see him grow to be a good man and I don't care about looking weak only about being strong. That is the way of a Mother. "I know you can teach him better than I can about how to be successful despite losing so much so early on. I-I" tears run through my eyes "I know he feels lost. He's starting out with less than so many other kids his age and he still lacks confidence despite what I'm giving him. If you put him in under your wing and allow him to shadow you at work then i'm sure he'll be an asset for you! He can help you Samantha!"
"That's enough!" She's clearly annoyed "What the hell do you think you know about me?" she says in a low voice and growling like a maddened prisoner about to be executed.
"But" That's ominous..
"If you really are that desperate than you'll allow for some stipulations for Chief. You are willing to make that trade aren't you?"
"What do you have in mind?"
"After conscription he'll join the Officers academy and pass wherein he'll directly transfer to my staff. If i'm going to train your kid then I should reap the fruts of that labor like a farmer on his fields. Plus I get a freebie spar with you at my leisure. I've been wanting to learn that 'Oakheart' style of the sword that's been taking root but I haven't the time what with the war and all. I'm sure you can do that for me right?"
"Of course Marshall." I say bowing my head in respects.
"Tch. I'll send an APC 3:00 at every day. Make sure he has came and ate before he gets in. Oh and one more thing..."
"Yes?"
"My dad got thrown in jail for a week for a bar brawl. Move him to 14 days total and make sure the room gets painted pink. Tel'em I say 'Get your shit together' too. Geezer keeps causing me to have to go pick him up and miss out on work." Glad I kept that card away..This work of art finds her own Father a nuisance to her.
An with that Khol leaves her Frozen Remnants half surrounding her and half filtering out to the hallways to make sure it's safe from whatever creatures may be preying on them as they leave. It's from that day forth that the Ice Queen would teach Jacob about making decisions and groom him well for military duty. When he's done with her 30 year mark i'm sure he'll be ready for a job in His Majesties Arbiters service. I have great plans for him once he's working under me...I know he'll like it.
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END
Jane's time with Jacob was probally the happiest she's ever been in her entire life. Every second of every day was jovial and where the world itself was a much brither color. An yet Avernus was still Avernus. An eternally and around the clock lethal world where survival is given not to the weak or the foolish but to those who are BOTH strong and intelligent. Jacob had amazing insticts and an amazing sponge like mind that could soak up knowledge as well as any facts or behaviors. She had him tested thoroughly for corruption for those reasons to make sure it's not a plot of some kind (she was still the chief Arbiter afterall).
She had been teaching her alot about the way of the sword, combat, and the few social techniques that she possessed when dealing with subordinates and colleagues. But she could not always be there to whip and guide Jacob to become a true citizen of this world. He needed the tutoring of someone who knows the issues of this world personally and who could relate better to a fellow Avernite.
An so I set a meeting with Samantha Khol the Ice Queen of Avernus Spine. A woman who rules the battlefield with exceptional strategies and ruthless pragmatism. Born of a Deathworlder and an Underhive and raised in a tent in long gone Helms Deep. With years of judging characters and facial features even I couldn't read Khol...
"So you want me to tutor him? Do I look like I have time to a Babysitter Jane?"
"I know your occupation well Marshall" I stressed the titles "leaves you with little time sometimes but I feel Jacob could be a real asset for Avernus in the future." I finished courting her interests as a fellow survivor.
For her part Khol just clucked her tongue and shook her head. "I know alot of mothers who have stated the same thing Chief Arbiter but I categorically declined being someones tutor. Besides I think someone like you is more than qualified to tutor the young boy." she finished by sipping her drink. Her guards, The Frozen Remnant from the looks of them, shuffled as if getting ready to leave. At least though them I can get some kind of reading on Khol.
"Jacob's instincts are in whole league on there own. He's not a hot blooded animal though but still lacking in tools to be a real Apex Predator. He can keep on with the still training SEO's and knows military ranks and militia level strategies by heart. If you took him under your wing he'll easilly be an amazing Marshall."
"An Apex Predator? High praise from a mother and oh so original." Khol began "Talk to Marshal Hye Richards she's more of a mentoring type afterall and she did teach Syr alot about being a General and look how she turned out. A Lieutenant General who dropped her stars to become a Navy Rate and now a solid Captain in the Imperial Trust Navy. Someone like me would never be able to mentor or teach anything to anyone else."
Damnit i'm losing her...An I only have two more cards to play in this game. One is making them siblings by way of terrible upbringings and the other is her father. As an underhiver his mind is scewed into getting in trouble with gambling dens and at *taps. If everything fails I can just threaten her but that won't make her a very good mentor.
"Marshal please-"
"I have said no twice Chief."
"But he's just like you!"
Khols eyes harden at that almost immediately. It's a reaction in the normally cold exterior glacier that is the Ice Queens face.
"He lost his parents and had a hard life in the orphanage with other kids. He saw alot of his poor friends die as well as hears about there demises still to this day. I need someone as succesful like you to help guide him through life. Please!" It's not many times I get desperate. I'd never even use that word for myself or my Arbiters when asking for a budget. I hate looking weak but when you have a baby boy's future depending on you it no longer is about you. My life is now to see him grow to be a good man and I don't care about looking weak only about being strong. That is the way of a Mother. "I know you can teach him better than I can about how to be successful despite losing so much so early on. I-I" tears run through my eyes "I know he feels lost. He's starting out with less than so many other kids his age and he still lacks confidence despite what I'm giving him. If you put him in under your wing and allow him to shadow you at work then i'm sure he'll be an asset for you! He can help you Samantha!"
"That's enough!" She's clearly annoyed "What the hell do you think you know about me?" she says in a low voice and growling like a maddened prisoner about to be executed.
"But" That's ominous..
"If you really are that desperate than you'll allow for some stipulations for Chief. You are willing to make that trade aren't you?"
"What do you have in mind?"
"After conscription he'll join the Officers academy and pass wherein he'll directly transfer to my staff. If i'm going to train your kid then I should reap the fruts of that labor like a farmer on his fields. Plus I get a freebie spar with you at my leisure. I've been wanting to learn that 'Oakheart' style of the sword that's been taking root but I haven't the time what with the war and all. I'm sure you can do that for me right?"
"Of course Marshall." I say bowing my head in respects.
"Tch. I'll send an APC 3:00 at every day. Make sure he has came and ate before he gets in. Oh and one more thing..."
"Yes?"
"My dad got thrown in jail for a week for a bar brawl. Move him to 14 days total and make sure the room gets painted pink. Tel'em I say 'Get your shit together' too. Geezer keeps causing me to have to go pick him up and miss out on work." Glad I kept that card away..This work of art finds her own Father a nuisance to her.
An with that Khol leaves her Frozen Remnants half surrounding her and half filtering out to the hallways to make sure it's safe from whatever creatures may be preying on them as they leave. It's from that day forth that the Ice Queen would teach Jacob about making decisions and groom him well for military duty. When he's done with her 30 year mark i'm sure he'll be ready for a job in His Majesties Arbiters service. I have great plans for him once he's working under me...I know he'll like it.
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END
- Location
- Australia
Atlas has fallen to Chaos. If we want their tech, we'll have to steal it either with a military raid or through espionage. The corruption of the tech shouldn't be an issue. We have Saint Lin and we have techsorcists, after all.
Nianque
Verified Dragon
Atlas is also way too far away from us to do anything with.