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I think the problem was that Gothic literally lacks entire categories of vocabulary that the Sirens use to describe the Warp and its effects. It'd be like explaining nuclear physics to medieval scholars.
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- Thread starter Durin
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I'm not asking for technical details. I'm asking for observable effects. To use the Royal Basilisk as an example, what's not being asked for is the nitty-gritty of its internal engineering and the exact ways its technology functions. What's being asked for is stuff like its weight, rate of fire, range, etc. You absolutely do not need the former stuff to understand the latter stuff.
EDIT: Your analogy is wrong. It's not explaining nuclear physics to medieval scholars, it's explaining nuclear weapons to medieval scholars. They won't understand the scientific technical stuff, but you can certainly explain the explosion, the size of the explosion, and the fact that it releases poison (radiation) as an additional result.
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1. no but you ahve access to enough high-g locations to make it
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1. older then that
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Asked this, apparently
Who'd have thought that a psycic language designed for a psycic species doesn't translate well to a non psycic species especially when talking about something which the non psycic species lacks entire dictionaries of vocabulary for.
Presumably when Tamia is able to study it extensivly for several years she can get a simplified enough version for a leyman to get a gist of what it is she is on about. She is an expert psycic researcher after all. What is actually happening is probably much more complicated so we get "for dummies" version.
We'll we've had less time to learn it, older languages are often significantly more complex at least to us in the modern era (have you tried reading cantabury tales in Middle English?)
Now imagine that it is not related to your native language, is significantly more complex (Eldar) and you're working off preconceptions different spellings ect. and its a lot harder than you make it out to be.
1. Middle English?
| WHAN that Aprille with his shoures soote 1 | |
| The droghte 2 of Marche hath perced to the roote, | |
| And bathed every veyne in swich 3 licour, | |
| Of which vertu engendred is the flour; | |
| Whan Zephirus eek with his swete breeth |
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Inspired hath in every holt 4 and heeth The tendre croppes, 5 and the yonge sonne Hath in the Ram his halfe cours y-ronne, 6 And smale fowles maken melodye, That slepen al the night with open ye,
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(So priketh hem nature in hir corages: 7 Than longen folk to goon on pilgrimages, And palmers for to seken straunge strondes, 8 To ferne halwes, 9 couthe 10 in sondry londes; And specially, from every shires ende
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Of Engelond, to Caunterbury they wende,
| The holy blisful martir for to seke, | |
| That hem hath holpen, whan that they were seke. 11 | |
| Bifel that, in that sesoun on a day, | |
| In Southwerk at the Tabard as I lay 12 | |
| Redy to wenden on my pilgrimage | |
| To Caunterbury with ful devout corage, | |
| At night was come in-to that hostelrye | |
| Wel 13 nyne and twenty in a compaignye, | |
| Of sondry folk, by aventure 14 y-falle 15 | |
| In felawshipe, and pilgrims were they alle, | |
| That toward Caunterbury wolden ryde; | |
| The chambres and the stables weren wyde, | |
| And wel we weren esed atte beste. 16 | |
| And shortly, whan the sonne was to reste, | |
| So hadde I spoken with hem everichon, 17 | |
| That I was of hir felawshipe anon, | |
| And made forward 18 erly for to ryse, | |
| To take our wey, ther as I yow devyse. 19 | |
| But natheles, 20 whyl I have tyme and space, | |
| Er that I ferther in this tale pace, 21 | |
| Me thinketh it acordaunt to resoun, | |
| To telle yew al the condicioun 22 | |
| Of ech of hem, so as it semed me, |
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ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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...Is it wrong I could read that without even really thinking about it?
When we talk with the Sirens a lot is inevitably getting lost in translation, especially on our end since Klovis-Ultan isn't a telepath and probably is wearing some wards to keep them out of his mind. Communication with them basically goes from High Gothic <-> Eldar <-> Ancient Eldar and at each step something is lost in translation. It certainly doesn't help that both Eldar and Ancient Eldar is probably full of words that are packed with conceptual meaning that translates poorly in High Gothic.
I honestly doubt the Trust is willing to let our few remaining Astropaths anywhere near the soul eating xenos, or even anywhere on Avernus for that matter.
I honestly doubt the Trust is willing to let our few remaining Astropaths anywhere near the soul eating xenos, or even anywhere on Avernus for that matter.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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What Canterbury tales?
Not really.
Some people just get it.
Most don't.
Admit ably Canterbury tales is quite simple compared to some of the more complex stuff (it was meant for pilgrims after all) and the version up top is a cleaned up legible and slightly simplified version.
Its also much easier to read than it is to try and pronounce properly
| Middle English | Sounds like Modern |
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| y,i "myne, sight" | "meet" |
| e, ee "me, meet, mete" (close e) | "mate" |
| e "begge, rede" (open e) | "bag" |
| a, aa "mate, maat" | "father" |
| u, ou "hus, hous" | "boot" |
| o, oo "bote, boot" (close o) | "oak" |
| o "lof, ok" (open o) | "bought" |
I think he probably means neo astropaths...
And certain words and sounds are not the same in either version same with the body language that the eldar language uses then add in the different bodies of the eldar and Sirens ect ect.
Still don't let them near.
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1. it depends on exact specialization, I will no go into details as it takes time to create and I do not consider it worthwhile until you actually seect the option. I am not spending an hour working on what-iffs
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Well, what do the rest of you guys think? Send Xavier back to the front and risk his life, or get him to set up a Divination Order and slow down the offensive?
I'm leaning toward the latter, simply because we rely so much on Divination at this point.
I'm leaning toward the latter, simply because we rely so much on Divination at this point.
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We want orders to be set up by the person who is actually good at the skill. Having anyone other than Ridcully setting up an order for Divination would be a waste, as he is quite likely the single best human diviner to have lived at this point.
Except Xavier isn't a Diviner, so is not the right person to set up that Order.
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Xavier would be good for warding. Don't know if that would be worth it.
HanEmpire
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An Order for Warding would most definitely be worth it. We can't spare Xavier to ward every ship that gets built by Vanaheim.
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I meant Neo-Astropaths. (The plural should've been a clue.) I got tired of having to use the neo prefix.
Well, we've still got plural Astropaths in the Trust. Single digits, but still plural IIRC.
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Won't it be better to colonize some worlds of the orks, especially of the 60 world orks, to establish a foothold and stop them from amassing a navy and regaining their edge.
Tugozak's domain is too far away for us to practically defend as part of the Trust - it takes months to get there, even with a Navigator.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
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CyberNinja
Lost in blizzard, presumed eaten by Canadians
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One could make the argument that now's as good a time as any given that there's a not insignificant probability that it'll get blown up in the fighting wether we try to prevent it or not. It would be worth it just to have the technology cataloged and preserved just to avoid a mechanicus tantrum spiral. Neither mind the fact that this could end up like the ion shields or siren trade in being a tech that turned out to have been a tech that would have been very useful if we'd researched it sooner.The problem is that you're talking about spending actions on the most option filled and second-most busy department next to our telepathica. There is so much shit to do already.
Next turn, we have to finish stuff these turn.
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As I've already mentioned sending him out to much gives too much of a chance of him dying and he is way too valuable to lose.
Now this sounds good. Should get to it immediately.