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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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Evil M. Lurker said:
Now that the freakout is out of the way, some more serious thoughts.

An Old One fortress world... Scary, but it offers even more potential than when we thought it was "just" a bio-lab. As has been said, if there's anywhere in the galaxy that a living population of Old Ones might be found, it'd be here...

And that has me thinking about the Ork infestation.

Because humans have been fighting Orks for, what, twenty-seven thousand years or so? And Eldar have been fighting Orks for much longer. And in all that time, no one has ever come up with a reliable way to commit fungicide.

But this is Avernus. If there's even one planet in the galaxy where a way to destroy Orkoid fungal infestation might be found...

...or, dare I even think, take control...

Okay that's just total pie in the sky. Anyway. @Durin :

1. Does discussing the potential destruction of the Orkoid ecosystem on Avernus, not just Orks as has already been talked about, give Ridcully the precog heebie-jeebies? If it does, that shuts down this entire line of questioning.

2. Has the Orkoid infestation been observed to vary in speed across the biomes it's spread to?

3. Have any Avernite toxins (or other dangerous substances or effects) been observed to be particularly effective against Orks or Orkoid life?

(I'm not looking for anything like a miraculous quick fix. Even if some line of research could be found I'd expect it to take centuries at a bare minimum. But we'll be living with feral Orks for a long, long time, we may as well study them.)

Okay, one last and definitely silly question.

4. In the history of the Imperium, has there ever been any success at domesticating Squigs, or do they inevitably turn on non-Orky masters?
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1. no
2. yes
3. Death's Head venom, but that kills everything
 
Alex pears said:
Not necessarily a fortress world, just a well defended lab.

As for old ones... well there are the Unborn which scare the piss out of chaos.
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Not that we have the slightest idea what they are. (Where did that nursery rhyme even come from, in-universe? I have a pet hypothesis that Tranth found it scrawled in blood on a wall in one of the early ruins, a legacy of the DAoT colonists.)
 
I wonder if Ridcully could divine whether or not that was the actual Changeling. Probably don't have room for him to try this turn though.
 
Evil M. Lurker said:
Not that we have the slightest idea what they are. (Where did that nursery rhyme even come from, in-universe? I have a pet hypothesis that Tranth found it scrawled in blood on a wall in one of the early ruins, a legacy of the DAoT colonists.)
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What nursery rhyme are you talking about, if you don't mind me asking?
 
The Changeling's pranks are not limited to the mortal realm. Countless wars have been started between the Chaos Gods by the Changeling's practical jokes, such as when he cut Slaanesh's beloved hair with a stolen Hellblade whilst the Dark Prince slept, or the time he snuck a trio of Nurglings onto the Skull Throne, creating a hideous noise and an unholy mess the next time Khorne sat down.
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The Changeling sounds like a major asshole. :lol

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Rotbart looked around at his gathered advisors. "Alright, Klovis Ultan has heard rumors that Vanaheim will be complaining that the number of inquisitors among the highest echelons of Avernus leadership means that we're basically a proxy vote for the Inquisition. We can't know how to respond until we know the truth of this, so... Who here is secretly an inquisitor?"
There was a shuffling as people raised their hands.
"Even you Edvin?"
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Now we know where Klovis built his hidden fortress. It's the fucking palace ! :grin:

Maybe Rotbart is an Inquisitor too, maybe he just doesn't know it. :p
 
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Reynal said:
To be fair, the Changeling's main schtick tends to be more sow deception than kill everything personally. Plus, in doing the doppelgänger fight, it bases its skills off of its opponent—the only ways to win are to be more powerful or ridiculously lucky. Jane was the second.
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Jane was actually the first. She was not more powerful when the fight began, but had forced herself to become so to win.
 
Yikes, scary stuff. just imagine if ridcully hadn't seen that changeling and it replaced jane...total control of our cult hunting networks. I agree with everyone who wants to take the options to stomp out those missing psykers.

I will also remind everyone that we have two black crystal items that have not been examined. The bcj necklace also needs to be looked at.
 
Something I hadn't considered until recently, but any chaos diviner would have to plan and act against not only Ridcully, but Avernus as well. I'm not convinced blink spiders are completely random in their attacks. There might be some entity directing the wildlife against potential threats.
 
@Durin

1. Can we call in reinforcements from the Imperial Turst to buff the number of troops present on Avernus?
2. The Inquisition is getting involved in this, right?
3. What about the Varangian Guard?
4. Is there anything Saint Lin can do to help?
5. Would Jane's new abilities make her useful for going on a trip to a god's domain?
 
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@Durin - since Ridcully thinks the psykers are a threat potentially as great as the Daemonic Incursion, could Klovis-Ultan spend some of his action bringing in Inquisitorial support?
 
So, I say we completely ignore the Psyker thing(incoming Daemonic Incursion) in favor of exploring... lets say Kappa. Or we could mount an expedition to the poles! That would be fun.
 
AvidFicReader said:
Something I hadn't considered until recently, but any chaos diviner would have to plan and act against not only Ridcully, but Avernus as well. I'm not convinced blink spiders are completely random in their attacks. There might be some entity directing the wildlife against potential threats.
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This is not a new idea I fear.

The planet mind was the original incarnation and then when the deepones were confirmed to be organising the wildlife during the incursion that merely added too it.

So yeah it is very very likely.

Enjou said:
@Durin - since Ridcully thinks the psykers are a threat potentially as great as the Daemonic Incursion, could Klovis-Ultan spend some of his action bringing in Inquisitorial support?
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Already asked apparently yes
Alex pears said:
While this is true the Necrons can pull world engines out of their stockings and their standard gun is seems to be about as a good as a neutron gun, I think they should realise that anything deigned to see em off in force should be some what out of our league.

In any case
@Durin
1. Can we ask Klovis to bring in inquisition support to eliminate the psykers quickly?
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Durin said:
1. yes
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On another note:
@Durin
1. Have any of the Scout Marines been promoted? As far as I can tell, there appears to be a slight contradiction in the lore. In one place, it says the Black Carapace is implanted at around age 20, while another says that Scouts are promoted when they get the Black Carapace installed, generally after a few campaigns.
2. How involved in taking the Ork worlds were the Varangian Guard?

I'm thinking of a Saar Omake, and whether he would be a Scout or a Devestator at this point.
 
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