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Well we can use that 3,500 gold dragons to hire and interview trustworthy people for positions, in our nonexistent bureaucratic positions. Maybe we can start but putting out feelers at the feast?
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I agree that we should talk with Gwayne before Otto. Still, honestly, with Daemon coming, we have a golden opportunity of expeditely getting Viserys the treatment he needs before going on vacations...I think Otto might need to be a bit soften up before we talk to him. I feel that Gwayne in private talks with Otto should suggest that Alicent has our ear and favour. In such a way that this could be a way for house Hightower to keep itself on top.
Also i think we should talk with him about him becoming the next City Watch commander. We can´t let Daemon get his old role back and more important he is our ally. An ally as the commander of the city watch is very good.
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We have a chance of immeditaly solving the Issue with Melos with an uncomfortable conversation with our dear uncle, unless we are taking 20 stress or more I think it is very much doing it ASAP h worth it...This is Azel's plan, but dropping Gwayne for Laena. The idea is to avoid talking to Daemon ourselves because of Stress, and also to be as dissuasive as possible of a continued Velaryon-Daemon alliance on the Velaryon side, while also talking up the toll authority to Corlys. But also gonna approval-vote the original, as it has the best chance right now of avoiding Daemon.
If we were at, say, thirty stress I might agree, but we're not. We're at fifty-two. And options that will continue to increase stress (for example, flying to Harrenhal to investigate our dragon/wierwood dream) remain popular with the thread. So I do not relish the idea of looking down a barrel of seventy-plus stress. Even if we plan to immediately mitigate it with a Dragonstone vacation–plans change, or even if they don't don't necessarily come off perfectly. Syrax could be attacked and killed by the Cannibal once we're on Dragonstone for all we know at the moment. Or Johanna's next child could be a boy.We have a chance of immeditaly solving the Issue with Melos with an uncomfortable conversation with our dear uncle, unless we are taking 20 stress or more I think it is very much doing it ASAP h worth it...
Preparing for the vacay is part of this turn's plan, so it's pretty secure from change. As far as unforeseen fuck-ups... I trust that TS isn't going to suddenly kill off our dragon just because we spent three months on Dragonstone (not to mention that Cannibal, afaik, goes for smaller prey), and Johanna's next being a boy is not a catastrophic level source of Stress when we have been doing so much to shore up our position and impress the Realm (if not all in a positive way). It would enable some gain over time, sure, but not immediately plunge us into despair.Even if we plan to immediately mitigate it with a Dragonstone vacation–plans change, or even if they don't don't necessarily come off perfectly. Syrax could be attacked and killed by the Cannibal once we're on Dragonstone for all we know at the moment. Or Johanna's next child could be a boy.
And how much would will increase our stress when Viserys loses his arm? Because honestly knwing our Nyra, she would get much more stressed knowing that when she couldshe didn't do anything...If we were at, say, thirty stress I might agree, but we're not. We're at fifty. And options that will continue to increase stress (for example, flying to Harrenhal to investigate our dragon/wierwood dream) remain popular with the thread. So I do not relish the idea of looking down a barrel of 70+ stress. Even if we plan to immediately mitigate it with a Dragonstone vacation–plans change, or even if they don't don't necessarily come off perfectly. Syrax could be attacked and killed by the Cannibal once we're on Dragonstone for all we know at the moment. Or Johanna's next child could be a boy.
I mean lets not rule out the possibility of Raenyra gaining stress from realizing that Daemon killed Melos after their chat.We have a chance of immeditaly solving the Issue with Melos with an uncomfortable conversation with our dear uncle, unless we are taking 20 stress or more I think it is very much doing it ASAP h worth it...
Also, we might just mean it, and have to carry the guilt of having ordered the man's assassination (which he more than earned by suggesting that a Martell match should see us stripped of our inheritance, but still). We know what Daemon is like, both in-character and out; and multiple voters have brought up the possibility that Daemon would take such a conversation as an instruction.Just because we'd love if he rid us of this turbulent maester, doesn't mean Rhaenyra meant that.
The default course of action is "wait for him to die and hope he does it soon" though, so it's highly unlikely to be a large stress gain imo.I mean lets not rule out the possibility of Raenyra gaining stress from realizing that Daemon killed Melos after their chat.
Just because we'd love if he rid us of this turbulent maester, doesn't mean Rhaenyra meant that.
Daemon strenuously objects to the phrasing (we can't order him to do anything, who the hell do we think we are)
What I mean is that there is a difference between us going to Daemon and sayingThe default course of action is "wait for him to die and hope he does it soon" though, so it's highly unlikely to be a large stress gain imo.
I don't think we will tell Daemon what to do, or even ask him to do anything in particular. I think we will describe the severity of the situation, express our worry and uncertainty on what to do, and let him get to the conclusion himself.What I mean is that there is a difference between us going to Daemon and saying
"Man Melos is bad at his job and is slowly killing my father. Uncle could you do something to convince him to replace Melos"
And
"Uncle could you do something *wink wink* to remove Melos from his position."
What I mean is that there is a difference between us going to Daemon and saying
"Man Melos is bad at his job and is slowly killing my father. Uncle could you do something to convince him to replace Melos"
And
"Uncle could you do something *wink wink* to remove Melos from his position."
Of such ambiguities are blood and cheese made.I don't think we will tell Daemon what to do, or even ask him to do anything in particular. I think we will describe the severity of the situation, express our worry and uncertainty on what to do, and let him get to the conclusion himself.
Also, we might just mean it, and have to carry the guilt of having ordered the man's assassination (which he more than earned by suggesting that a Martell match should see us stripped of our inheritance, but still). We know what Daemon is like, both in-character and out; and multiple voters have brought up the possibility that Daemon would take such a conversation as an instruction.
I mean lets not rule out the possibility of Raenyra gaining stress from realizing that Daemon killed Melos after their chat.
Just because we'd love if he rid us of this turbulent maester, doesn't mean Rhaenyra meant that.
Not too worried about it, we personally exeuted a man in the royal progress and we got only 7 stress... And as the saying goes "it becomes easier"What I mean is that there is a difference between us going to Daemon and saying
"Man Melos is bad at his job and is slowly killing my father. Uncle could you do something to convince him to replace Melos"
And
"Uncle could you do something *wink wink* to remove Melos from his position."
Better safe than sorry, and seriously if we can solve our problems with Melos with a single unconforatable converstion we should take it...Just remembering everyone that Orwyle might have miscalculated Viserys health decline...
Yeah he either kills him or scares him into accepting Orwyle treatment both options work...I don't think we will tell Daemon what to do, or even ask him to do anything in particular. I think we will describe the severity of the situation, express our worry and uncertainty on what to do, and let him get to the conclusion himself.
The specific rate doesn't matter, it could be two years in actuality and it would still be an enormous issue for Rhaenyra. The problem is that 1) her father's arm is rotting, 2) the current treatments do exactly nothing to help with it, 3) Mellos refuses to apply any measures that might be more effective. Regardless of the specific time and date Viserys is going to lose an arm.Just remembering everyone that Orwyle might have miscalculated Viserys health decline...