For the choices here, some of them will be possible to hire as contractors or independent heroes. Not all though. Voss for example will be with you no matter what. Some choices have things they'll do instead, others can be hired. As for Jack specifically, if you hire Nokkra instead, he'll be hesitant, but join. If you hire Kanuas he won't.
Would you mind explaining why @Daemon Hunter ? I mean Nokkra is a pure Dark Sider, whereas Kanuas at least is a former Jedi and it is not fully consumed by the Dark...
Besides that if we choose Yewe Nairtuu, can we hire later Calmat Kasch?
Note everyone: 3 million units does not mean 3 million clones. Well, ok, it does in Traviss land. But Traviss is an idiot, so thats a given.
That said, your Imperal II count seems a bit high. It is unlikely they built more Imperial II in 2 years less timeframe. They only built 25k-26k Imperial 1s when they switched to Imperial IIs in 5 BBY. Its only been 9 years, when the Imperial I begin production with the empire itself. It make more sense if there was around 20k to 25k, with the total Imps being 40k to 50k between all variations and sub-variations.
Would you mind explaining why @Daemon Hunter ? I mean Nokkra is a pure Dark Sider, whereas Kanuas at least is a former Jedi and it is not fully consumed by the Dark...
Besides that if we choose Yewe Nairtuu, can we hire later Calmat Kasch?
In the words of Jack, "I've seen dark siders in the Unknown Regions. I know how they work. That man, he's an anomaly. I've learned not to trust anomalies. They tend to blow up in your face."
As for Calmat, no, he's got other offers. Same with Yewe.
"I've seen dark siders in the Unknown Regions. I know how they work. That man, he's an anomaly. I've learned not to trust anomalies. They tend to blow up in your face."
"If you do hire me, my price remains the same. The Nightsisters get Dathomir, and I will serve you. If we do not get it, your life is forfeit, as is your empire."
"If you do hire me, my price remains the same. The Nightsisters get Dathomir, and I will serve you. If we do not get it, your life is forfeit, as is your empire."
Choosing this purely for Nox will probably be a bad idea in hindsight, but fuck it.
[x] Plan: Risk and Balance, with Clones
- [x] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
- [x] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
- [x] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
- [x] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
- [x] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
- [x] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
- [x] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
Sole will be Cen Kam's main agent if she gets the job. Then he'll most likely be promoted to her second in command and groomed for being her successor when she retires in 20-30 years.
Lancama won't be, he's gotten some rather lucrative offers from some wealthy tycoons.
Adhoc vote count started by Nicholas Brooks on Jun 24, 2021 at 1:39 AM, finished with 142 posts and 38 votes.
[X] Plan: Risk and Balance, with Clones
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan: Play to our strengths
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Jack - A Blazing Chains wielder with experience in using the force as part of an army, he does understand how to integrate them with command structures. Additionally, his encounter with the Far Outsiders does present an opportunity to gain insight into their methodology. His order would be focused entirely on warfare and would use the light side.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan Slow And Steady, With A Sneaky Beaky
-[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan: Risk and Balance
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Calmat Kasch - A revolutionary that can spend years without a find, Calmat is willing to bend ethics if you ordered. He does have some ties to the Mon Calamari which may be of minor help.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan Slow And Steady, Then High Gear
-[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Philip Sole - An inexperienced but loyal spymaster, he has some novel ideas and prefers to remain cautious.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
[X] Lyaian Immanuel - A businesswoman with ties to Sienar, she proposes to shut down several research institutions and focus entirely on developing its economy and structures. She does offer to have Sienar sell you custom models.
[X] Zakku the Hutt - A criminal with ties to the underworld, he could provide you control of a large portion of the galaxy's crime, even if you would need to betray him before he betrays you.
[X] The Empire has failed, and in this new galaxy, a new power must rise. The mistakes of the old Empire must be learned from, but so should its successes. The Emperor was its failure, and you will ensure that what succeeds it will be seen different from its founding. A benevolent dictatorship, the ideal form of government. And should the Emperor return, he will find a galaxy that does not want him. (Path of the Dictator) *This path involves creating a new empire, but unlike the Path of the Empire, it explicitly rejects Palpatine and the Tarkin Doctrine.*
[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
[X] The galaxy is unstable, but you do not have the time to create the ideal government with you at the top. The galaxy needs forces capable of standing on their own against the threats to come, and you will make it so. Even if you are not one of them. (Path of the Bastion) *This path involves accepting that attempting to take control of the galaxy may not be possible, and so another power will need to become a superpower, or perhaps even multiple power
[X] Plan money and genius
-[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
-[X] Vesha Dey - A woman with immense ambition, she wishes to use diplomacy as a weapon for the Empire of the Hand.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Philip Sole - An inexperienced but loyal spymaster, he has some novel ideas and prefers to remain cautious.
-[X] Calmat Kasch - A revolutionary that can spend years without a find, Calmat is willing to bend ethics if you ordered. He does have some ties to the Mon Calamari which may be of minor help.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Charles Hillinger - A fool with immense wealth and connections, his purpose is to be fleeced
[X] Mass Expansion and Industry
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Vesha Dey - A woman with immense ambition, she wishes to use diplomacy as a weapon for the Empire of the Hand.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Lyaian Immanuel - A businesswoman with ties to Sienar, she proposes to shut down several research institutions and focus entirely on developing its economy and structures. She does offer to have Sienar sell you custom models.
-[X] Jack - A Blazing Chains wielder with experience in using the force as part of an army, he does understand how to integrate them with command structures. Additionally, his encounter with the Far Outsiders does present an opportunity to gain insight into their methodology. His order would be focused entirely on warfare and would use the light side.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
Alright, as voting has died down, I'll be calling the vote here. Looks like here are your advisors:
Farry Baidan - An interesting choice, her projects are high in action cost and monetary cost, and take a while to implement. She's a decent admiral herself, but she's definitely carefree, which Thrawn is going to have issues with for some time.
Athaen Sen'neam - Quite the choice, she'll be rather useful in trying to keep your neighbors from taking action against you due to the military reforms I expect will be pursued.
Oldolor Vipik - Someone Thrawn is going to like, he's going to be the guy that gives you funding, and he'll get along with Thrawn.
Cen Kam - Also someone Thrawn is going to like, she's highly professional and dedicated to her job. She does have a slight issue with Kanuas, but that's a professional rather than personal.
Yewe Nairtuu - Glad for the opportunity, she'll be useful in incremental improvements across the board.
Xuyul Kanuas - A mystery, he'll have some strong ideas on what should be done within his order, and might get annoyed if they aren't done in the order he wants. Also rather bad at giving reports.
Eshu Tenrar - A bodyguard that is most definitely going to come in handy, and someone Thrawn is going to spend a lot of time with.
As for your heroes: Voss (Admiral), Pallaeon (Admiral), Philip Sole (Intelligence Agent), Lyiana Immanuel (Subordinate of Vipik).
I hope to get the next update out on Friday, which will be the turn one actions.
Adhoc vote count started by Daemon Hunter on Jun 24, 2021 at 2:39 AM, finished with 143 posts and 38 votes.
[X] Plan: Risk and Balance, with Clones
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan: Play to our strengths
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Jack - A Blazing Chains wielder with experience in using the force as part of an army, he does understand how to integrate them with command structures. Additionally, his encounter with the Far Outsiders does present an opportunity to gain insight into their methodology. His order would be focused entirely on warfare and would use the light side.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan Slow And Steady, With A Sneaky Beaky
-[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan: Risk and Balance
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Calmat Kasch - A revolutionary that can spend years without a find, Calmat is willing to bend ethics if you ordered. He does have some ties to the Mon Calamari which may be of minor help.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan Slow And Steady, Then High Gear
-[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Philip Sole - An inexperienced but loyal spymaster, he has some novel ideas and prefers to remain cautious.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
[X] Lyaian Immanuel - A businesswoman with ties to Sienar, she proposes to shut down several research institutions and focus entirely on developing its economy and structures. She does offer to have Sienar sell you custom models.
[X] Zakku the Hutt - A criminal with ties to the underworld, he could provide you control of a large portion of the galaxy's crime, even if you would need to betray him before he betrays you.
[X] The Empire has failed, and in this new galaxy, a new power must rise. The mistakes of the old Empire must be learned from, but so should its successes. The Emperor was its failure, and you will ensure that what succeeds it will be seen different from its founding. A benevolent dictatorship, the ideal form of government. And should the Emperor return, he will find a galaxy that does not want him. (Path of the Dictator) *This path involves creating a new empire, but unlike the Path of the Empire, it explicitly rejects Palpatine and the Tarkin Doctrine.*
[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
[X] The galaxy is unstable, but you do not have the time to create the ideal government with you at the top. The galaxy needs forces capable of standing on their own against the threats to come, and you will make it so. Even if you are not one of them. (Path of the Bastion) *This path involves accepting that attempting to take control of the galaxy may not be possible, and so another power will need to become a superpower, or perhaps even multiple power
[X] Plan money and genius
-[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
-[X] Vesha Dey - A woman with immense ambition, she wishes to use diplomacy as a weapon for the Empire of the Hand.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Philip Sole - An inexperienced but loyal spymaster, he has some novel ideas and prefers to remain cautious.
-[X] Calmat Kasch - A revolutionary that can spend years without a find, Calmat is willing to bend ethics if you ordered. He does have some ties to the Mon Calamari which may be of minor help.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Charles Hillinger - A fool with immense wealth and connections, his purpose is to be fleeced
[X] Mass Expansion and Industry
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Vesha Dey - A woman with immense ambition, she wishes to use diplomacy as a weapon for the Empire of the Hand.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Lyaian Immanuel - A businesswoman with ties to Sienar, she proposes to shut down several research institutions and focus entirely on developing its economy and structures. She does offer to have Sienar sell you custom models.
-[X] Jack - A Blazing Chains wielder with experience in using the force as part of an army, he does understand how to integrate them with command structures. Additionally, his encounter with the Far Outsiders does present an opportunity to gain insight into their methodology. His order would be focused entirely on warfare and would use the light side.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
Scheduled vote count started by Daemon Hunter on Jun 21, 2021 at 3:23 AM, finished with 130 posts and 37 votes.
[X] Plan: Risk and Balance, with Clones
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan: Play to our strengths
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Jack - A Blazing Chains wielder with experience in using the force as part of an army, he does understand how to integrate them with command structures. Additionally, his encounter with the Far Outsiders does present an opportunity to gain insight into their methodology. His order would be focused entirely on warfare and would use the light side.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan Slow And Steady, With A Sneaky Beaky
-[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Plan Slow And Steady, Then High Gear
-[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
-[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Philip Sole - An inexperienced but loyal spymaster, he has some novel ideas and prefers to remain cautious.
-[X] Yewe Nairtuu - A Kaminoan with knowledge of cloning, she has a level of consistency that impresses even you. But the things you can do with clones would be incredible.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
[X] Lyaian Immanuel - A businesswoman with ties to Sienar, she proposes to shut down several research institutions and focus entirely on developing its economy and structures. She does offer to have Sienar sell you custom models.
[X] Zakku the Hutt - A criminal with ties to the underworld, he could provide you control of a large portion of the galaxy's crime, even if you would need to betray him before he betrays you.
[X] The Empire has failed, and in this new galaxy, a new power must rise. The mistakes of the old Empire must be learned from, but so should its successes. The Emperor was its failure, and you will ensure that what succeeds it will be seen different from its founding. A benevolent dictatorship, the ideal form of government. And should the Emperor return, he will find a galaxy that does not want him. (Path of the Dictator) *This path involves creating a new empire, but unlike the Path of the Empire, it explicitly rejects Palpatine and the Tarkin Doctrine.*
[X] Athaen Sen'neam - Proposing to act as a third party, she wishes for the Empire of the Hand to avoid major wars and focus on the slow accumulation of territory and power.
[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
[X] The galaxy is unstable, but you do not have the time to create the ideal government with you at the top. The galaxy needs forces capable of standing on their own against the threats to come, and you will make it so. Even if you are not one of them. (Path of the Bastion) *This path involves accepting that attempting to take control of the galaxy may not be possible, and so another power will need to become a superpower, or perhaps even multiple power
[X] Plan money and genius
-[X] Rey Zritru - Aware of her own shortcomings and motivated by her own standing, she proposes a much larger use of droids within the army and navy to cut costs.
-[X] Vesha Dey - A woman with immense ambition, she wishes to use diplomacy as a weapon for the Empire of the Hand.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Philip Sole - An inexperienced but loyal spymaster, he has some novel ideas and prefers to remain cautious.
-[X] Calmat Kasch - A revolutionary that can spend years without a find, Calmat is willing to bend ethics if you ordered. He does have some ties to the Mon Calamari which may be of minor help.
-[X] Xuyul Kanuas - A wielder of both the light and dark side, there isn't a force technique in the galaxy that he doesn't know. His order would be immense in size and scope, and out of them all, he is undoubtedly the most experienced of the three. He comes with a Holocron of Darth Nox, as well as a Holocron of a Jedi Master that was lost to history.
-[X] Charles Hillinger - A fool with immense wealth and connections, his purpose is to be fleeced
[X] Mass Expansion and Industry
-[X] Farryn Baidan - An extremely knowledgeable Echani in regards to military history, she wants a complete redesign of the Empire of the Hands military. Expensive, and lengthy, any such project will take a decade and leave your military in a weakened state. But eventually, it will be utterly terrifying to face.
-[X] Vesha Dey - A woman with immense ambition, she wishes to use diplomacy as a weapon for the Empire of the Hand.
-[X] Oldolor Vipik - A Muun that wishes to grow the Empire of the Hand's economy drastically, he seeks to maintain military spending and increase the capital that flows through companies and begin a massive infrastructure program.
-[X] Cen Kam - A female Clawdite of immense professionalism, her ideas are expensive but valuable. Bringing with her high standards of professionality, she will ensure only information you wish to reveal will ever leave your grasp.
-[X] Lyaian Immanuel - A businesswoman with ties to Sienar, she proposes to shut down several research institutions and focus entirely on developing its economy and structures. She does offer to have Sienar sell you custom models.
-[X] Jack - A Blazing Chains wielder with experience in using the force as part of an army, he does understand how to integrate them with command structures. Additionally, his encounter with the Far Outsiders does present an opportunity to gain insight into their methodology. His order would be focused entirely on warfare and would use the light side.
-[X] Eshu Tenrar - A former member of an assassin guild, she is extremely loyal to Thrawn, and would create an excellent force of bodyguards.
@Daemon Hunter How much impact would using droids in our military have on morale and PR? Given the previous mentions of the Clone Wars leaving a bad impression
The leadership probably wouldn't but what about the populace? Both our own and of other factions. Because despite what the TV shows and Movies portray them as, the battle droids used by the CIS were actually highly effective units. Superbattle droids were feared by clone troopers because they were so hard to kill, a single one being able to wipe out an entire squad or more if they are unlucky. Individual Droidekas were stated to being able to wipe out entire platoons. Commando droids likewise had their own fearsome reputation.
Legends batledroids were not nearly as clumsy as shown in the various visual medias, the higher end models were brutally effective in their specific roles with the added bonus of never surrendering unless an organic commanded them to, the only real downside was the price tag they had and lack of morals which led to their ruthless compliance of their orders which led to their terrible reputation. The trauma inflicted by these droids on a galactic scale was massive to say the least, especially so for the worlds that have actually experienced them first hand.
The leadership probably wouldn't but what about the populace? Both our own and of other factions. Because despite what the TV shows and Movies portray them as, the battle droids used by the CIS were actually highly effective units. Superbattle droids were feared by clone troopers because they were so hard to kill, a single one being able to wipe out an entire squad or more if they are unlucky. Individual Droidekas were stated to being able to wipe out entire platoons. Commando droids likewise had their own fearsome reputation.
Legends batledroids were not nearly as clumsy as shown in the various visual medias, the higher end models were brutally effective in their specific roles with the added bonus of never surrendering unless an organic commanded them to, the only real downside was the price tag they had and lack of morals which led to their ruthless compliance of their orders which led to their terrible reputation. The trauma inflicted by these droids on a galactic scale was massive to say the least, especially so for the worlds that have actually experienced them first hand.
That's more of an issue, but also not as much of one. The warlord states tend not to care about them, so such hatred won't affect them. The New Republic will be more biased towards you as a result, but they're still trying to get this democracy thing working. What the droids will do though is make any warcrimes look worse than they are to people.
That's more of an issue, but also not as much of one. The warlord states tend not to care about them, so such hatred won't affect them. The New Republic will be more biased towards you as a result, but they're still trying to get this democracy thing working. What the droids will do though is make any warcrimes look worse than they are to people.
So a droid army bombarding a mixed civilian/military target will have heftier ramifications for us than if it was an organic army or would it be the same with the organic army if we just have droid integration as a general policy?
So a droid army bombarding a mixed civilian/military target will have heftier ramifications for us than if it was an organic army or would it be the same with the organic army if we just have droid integration as a general policy?
If that's the case then using droids as frontline units to soak up blaster fire should be an acceptable move with the added benefit of decreasing organic casualty rates which should then also improve our army's morale and loyalty
