Fair enough, but then again, we're also not Americans :V
But then I lose the impact from the enumeration! :V

And, uh, if I was going for subtle, I'd go with something like:

"Thank you for answering on such short notice; we realize that there is much you have to do with regards to research and keeping the peace, and understand if not all of your leaders can come."

I'm not exactly trying to be subtle here.
Why not? Being overt is unlikely to get us answers out of the guys wearing masks and voice modulators. We lose nothing by probing and being subtle first and being upfront later.
 
Man, there's been some cool airship innovations in the last several years. I'd love to see some of these aircraft in action. Especially the rather massive Airlander 10. Also, someone managed to figure out a good system for altering the amount of lift without venting the gas-bag or offloading ballast, and got it to work. Neat sh*t.
On the subject of specialty ammo: Should we consider researching something for the Jagdgewehr, or are we just going to use it as the "kill stuff" gun and the Machine Cannon as the "utility" gun? I can see benefits to both approaches, really (though I, personally, feel that focusing on the Machine Cannon for utility ammo would work better, since more shots means more chances to apply the debuffs). Either way, though, I'd like some kind of acid round for our jaegers. And we really should look into getting the Jagdgewehr (and maybe the Machine Cannon, if the bakelite doesn't count) some cauterizing ammo to minimize the mess (not to mention learning to make the Jagdgewehr itself, just in case).
Even for a damage-dealing-focused gun, I can see several types of altered ammo that would be useful, like incindary, flechette, cryonic, and other sorts of damage-type altering rounds.
The Jagdgewehr is best fit as a sniper sort of gun due to its range, damage profile, and clip size. And we tend to use Jagdhund as a mid range sniper so it works well with her kit. The only kind of ammo I see us really giving it is AP ammo to stay relevant against Cat III+ enemies.
It's got some innate armor-piercing qualities, and the plasma rifle on Jagd is already good for anti-armor purposes. But yeah, some AP rounds could be handy.
Assuming we can research AP ammo worth a damn.
I mean...Inko did have those plasma shells we could try and copy...
[X] Humanity survive by working as a collective, what you see today is merely another example of it.

-[X] That being said, it appears the kaijus are attracted by a supercell reactor of some kind, may we inquire to what you can tell us about it

Edit: does this sound stupid?
It's...abrupt.
And Phenom is now the Tankiest Jaeger! As he should be. And the upgrade to the perk is welcome as well!
I'm half-tempted to upgrade Phenom's HtH next so we have more leeway when using that perk because it basically gives us +3 AV. We need that Blocking Augment/Mod ASAP.
Shock absorbers in the wrists and hands, perhaps? I guess that'd count as a Hand Mod. Alternatively, we could always make better blocking hands.
Well, this should come in handy just in case KRAUN, or DGINN, or some other crazy Human faction decides to mess with us. I don't see why not add EW and ECM to the Tyr if we get the chance.
We might even be able to apply it to Kaiju with enough research into their hivemind connections. They're using some sort of signaling system, right? We might be able to tap into it artificially, or at least jam it with gibberish.
I still want to try to squeeze some more performance out of Tacit's Vulcans, but this will do. Oh yes, this will most certainly do.
Didn't the Ammo update change them around a bit? Might be good to get some more use out of them, or maybe run a simulation (I.E. pull up the sheets and roll some dice) against previous Kaiju, before we assume we need to do more work.
A Neural Disruptor Kaiju, maybe? I don't think Conventionals will be very helpful here but that's why we have Jaegers and I don't think neural fuckery will have too much of an effect on Jagdhund.
Yeah...this guy is more than a bit concerning. Not sure where I put him on the priorities list, but I would be up for doing multiple low-Cat hunts in one turn, at some point.
That's worrisome. Who wants to kill it ASAP before it turns into a Cat V? Just me?
Seconded.
Well, who wants some grilled fish? :V

It'll probably be a bitch to find close to the sea floor, given its shape. We should build a few extra Scouts for that fight, of course, but the only other preparations for it I can think of are building Morays and some sort of underwater propulsion augment.
I expect that DGINN may go for a Round 2 at some point. Might be best to just let them handle it.
It's built for trading blows in melee, then. And Phenom won't have any more trouble grappling it than normal. The poison it has is probably acidic as well, so we want to make sure it doesn't stick on (or in) any of our jaegers.

So it's hard to knock prone and has a long tail. It's also highly radioactive as well, so we should be on the lookout for some Atomic Breath shenanigans or something similar.
I'd be up for hunting them soon, possibly before Tara, since they're so detrimental to the environment. Boreas is still higher priority, both for the Resources, and the growing thing.
It's a hell of an upgrade for the conventionals, but I want to try squeezing more Damage Bonus out of Tacit's 60mm Vulcans. It's nowhere near as much of a concern now, though, roughly on the level of "spend a spare action if we can't think of anything more important to use it on".
Gotcha,
[X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just American citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
-[x] "Is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
-[x] "We would also like to inquire why we did not receive any Jaeger support from your forces. Considering the number of Jaegers we've seen at your disposal and the near-instantaneous nature of ANGEL-Net Comms, it seems strange that no reinforcements arrived in time for the fight."

Sounds good?
Works for a starter and a lead-in to giving them the Skadi designs. Would still like to ask what the heck they brought through there that called down this much of a sh*t-storm, though, but that can wait.
Could we design new Vehicles using modified versions of the 60mm uv lsser Vulcans?
I mean...yes. I wouldn't really suggest lasers on submarines, water tends to attenuate the beams, and maybe bend them (not sure on the last one). Surface naval vessels are okay, they don't have anywhere near the attenuation issues, but there are going to still be light-bending issues sometimes, due to mist and stuff.

Other than naval vessels, though, I think we've attached lasers to most of the units it's practical to attach them to. Tanks, helicopters, AKBs, and planes. I guess we could make a laser-wielding scout variant? Or I guess we could make laser artillery. I would rather make tanks, since the artillery right is basic just cheaper-but-immobile tanks, and the cost differences are negligible with MPFs. Sure, it's still 4x as much, but the absolute difference between 200 and 50 is much less than between 40 and 10.

The main issue with lasers as a main weapon for Conventionals is the lack of tactical flexibility. As a backup weapon they're stellar, but being able to switch to acid rounds or Dragon's Blood missiles is handy. There might be some advantage to equipping them to the scouts, though, since they only pack one kind of missile, and it might be worse than the lasers would be.
 
But then I lose the impact from the enumeration! :V


Why not? Being overt is unlikely to get us answers out of the guys wearing masks and voice modulators. We lose nothing by probing and being subtle first and being upfront later.
Fine, I'll edit it.

[X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
-[x] "Speaking of which, is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
-[x] "We would also like to inquire why Jaegers were not available for such a critical project. Considering the number of Jaegers we've seen at your disposal and the near-instantaneous nature of ANGEL-Net Comms, it seems strange that no reinforcements arrived in time for the fight."
 
Didn't the Ammo update change them around a bit? Might be good to get some more use out of them, or maybe run a simulation (I.E. pull up the sheets and roll some dice) against previous Kaiju, before we assume we need to do more work.
The Ammo update made them much less likely to burn out, but playtesting sounds like a really good idea. I'll try to do it tonight.

Yeah...this guy is more than a bit concerning. Not sure where I put him on the priorities list, but I would be up for doing multiple low-Cat hunts in one turn, at some point.
That thing is weird and probably has some really nasty trick, but I expect that between Jagdhund's range and two other melee Jaegers we won't have much trouble.

It also reminds me we could try upgrading the Neural Disruptor a bit if the opportunity arises.
 
I feel that the "why didn't you help?" thing might be a little too confrontational, personally. And possibly covered by the "how're the absentees doing?" thing I suggested earlier.

Keep in mind that if we say anything TOO aggressive (not awake enough to think of a more appropriate word) we might piss them off and hurt relations with them. Hence the need for a more subtle phrasing that gives us plausible deniability (no, we aren't accusing you of anything, we're just concerned that your missing members might be having problems, it's perfectly alright if you can't tell us exactly what's wrong right now).
 
Lessee if I can manage something a bit more diplomatic than the current winning vote...

[X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
-[x] "Speaking of which, is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
--[X] Assume that they were en route, but we just happened to show up first and clear things up before their reinforcements could arrive. It's the most logical reason for their absence, given how we showed up as fast as humanly possible.
[X] "I notice that some of your number are not present today. Are they perhaps having difficulties that must be attended to immediately?"
-[X] Make sure they understand that we are not demanding classified details in exchange for our prior assistance; a simple yes/no answer will suffice in this instance, but any additional details they see fit to provide will be appreciated.
 
Shock absorbers in the wrists and hands, perhaps? I guess that'd count as a Hand Mod. Alternatively, we could always make better blocking hands.

Maybe build a functional armored hand that has an outside 'skin' of something like sorbothane, for extra impact/blunt resistance? or maybe the mixed bag approach where the smaller hands are good vs impact blunt and improve the B.S.H. versus edged etc...
 
...@Fyrstorm do we even need to equip the Jagdgewehr on Jagdhund with a Repair action, given it is a hand-held weapon she could literally pick up and carry at a moment's notice? I mean, it makes sense that we would need to from a game mechanics point of view, but it does make more sense for the Jagdgewehr and any other non-integrated weapon to be usable without having to equip it with an Action.
Nope. Handheld weapons can be equipped during battlefield deployment. You can, of course, assign certain weapons to certain jaegers, but...

In any case, the Jagdgewehr isn't compatible with Jagdhund's spinal rack (either from chassis damage or just being designed for use on an older model), so it'd be a similar situation to carrying the Ascalon Blade pre-sheath; either you bring it and use it, or you don't do either.
 
I really want to ask what's with the masks.

I know right... Is it for their benefit (security reasons) or our benefit (as their just that fuggly?):V

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What are the odds they were all porkchop babies?!? (you know kids so ugly you tie a porkchop around their necks so the dog will play with them...):V:V
 
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Nope. Handheld weapons can be equipped during battlefield deployment. You can, of course, assign certain weapons to certain jaegers, but...

In any case, the Jagdgewehr isn't compatible with Jagdhund's spinal rack (either from chassis damage or just being designed for use on an older model), so it'd be a similar situation to carrying the Ascalon Blade pre-sheath; either you bring it and use it, or you don't do either.

Gun bearer Fangs... :V:V:V :p
 
I know right... Is it for their benefit (security reasons) or our benefit (as their just that fuggly?):V

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What are the odds they were all porkchop babies?!? (you know kids so ugly you tie a porkchop around their necks so the dog will play with them...):V:V
It's not because they're ugly. I mean, they could still be ugly, but that's not why they wear the masks. Doing so for that would just be... well, ridiculous. And kinda petty, considering they're the leaders of what you're currently aware of as the biggest force fighting against the kaiju.
 
Arsenal Fangs, they carry your weapons in this sweet case that doubles as a Buster Sword. The second one doubles as a missile launcher. A third Fang can just plant itself on the ground to serve as cover.

I actually really like this idea, even if we don't make them have secondary armaments/modes. Now we just need to figure out how to make them fly!
 
As for the two problems, the first can't be solved unless we find a new Teleporting Kaiju and let it get away. The second is easily solved by using the Token or trying to Research teleportation some more (and hoping for a better roll, of course).
I would just throw a better roll at it next time, without the token. We rolled a 1, there's no where else to go but up or the same which might make incremental progress, I dunno.

Reason I want to save the Token for a bit is I expect the research tree of teleportation to get much harder than it already is.

A Neural Disruptor Kaiju, maybe? I don't think Conventionals will be very helpful here but that's why we have Jaegers and I don't think neural fuckery will have too much of an effect on Jagdhund.
My first thought was Mind Control Kaiju. Which is quite possibly the worst thing ever.

That's worrisome. Who wants to kill it ASAP before it turns into a Cat V? Just me?
Thirded.


I mean...yes. I wouldn't really suggest lasers on submarines, water tends to attenuate the beams, and maybe bend them (not sure on the last one). Surface naval vessels are okay, they don't have anywhere near the attenuation issues, but there are going to still be light-bending issues sometimes, due to mist and stuff.
You only have to worry about bending if you are say, shooting a laser from above the water into the water. This phenomenon is why your straw looks weird if you stick it in a cup of water. Works similarly for a laser being shot out of the water, into the air.

Arsenal Fangs, they carry your weapons in this sweet case that doubles as a Buster Sword. The second one doubles as a missile launcher. A third Fang can just plant itself on the ground to serve as cover.

I actually really like this idea, even if we don't make them have secondary armaments/modes. Now we just need to figure out how to make them fly!
Sounds like making Flugel a Fang. I like it.
 
Sounds like making Flugel a Fang. I like it.
I just realized I stole the idea from Gundam Zabanya's GN Holster Bits. They're literally Shield Bits that have the actual Rifle Bits inside them.

Anyway, the idea is a Fang that holsters the weapon for Jagdhund and once the weapon is retrieved it can still contribute to the battle. The one meant to carry the Jagdgewehr turns into a shield/cover so Jagdhund is extra-protected while sniping, the one holstering the Machine Cannon turns into a Rocket Launcher and the one hostering the Ascalon Blade... I dunno. Turning into a Buster Sword doesn't really fit since the Ascalon Blade would take up a hand already. Maybe an extra Scatter weapon?

All I know is that the one holstering the Machine Cannon will be nicknamed "the Django". For reasons that should be obvious.

Also, we need votes so Fyr can update. I'd personally love it if we could finish this conversation with KRAUN in less than fifty pages. :V
 
[X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
-[x] "Speaking of which, is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
-[X] "On a more... delicate matter, we are understandably concerned about what could trigger an attack like this. For the sake of both of our groups. When we asked Outpost MICHAEL they said it might have had to do with an experimental Supercell moving through the region.
-[x] "We would also like to inquire why Jaegers were not available. Considering the number of Jaegers we've seen at your disposal and the near-instantaneous nature of ANGEL-Net Comms, it seems strange that no reinforcements arrived in time for the fight. Were you dealing with some kind of attack elsewhere?"

How about this folks? I also modified the last vote to give them a plausible out, which I think will make them more willing to actually give us an answer. And even if they take the out we know that they want to cover for something, even if that is just embarrassment over a mistake.
Adhoc vote count started by BungieONI on Jun 5, 2018 at 9:04 PM, finished with 29 posts and 6 votes.

  • [X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
    -[x] "Speaking of which, is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
    -[X] "On a more... delicate matter, we are understandably concerned about what could trigger an attack like this. For the sake of both of our groups. When we asked Outpost MICHAEL they said it might have had to do with an experimental Supercell moving through the region.
    -[x] "We would also like to inquire why Jaegers were not available. Considering the number of Jaegers we've seen at your disposal and the near-instantaneous nature of ANGEL-Net Comms, it seems strange that no reinforcements arrived in time for the fight. Were you dealing with some kind of attack elsewhere?"
    [X] Humanity survive by working as a collective, what you see today is merely another example of it.
    -[X] That being said, it appears the kaijus are attracted by a supercell reactor of some kind, may we inquire to what you can tell us about it
    [X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
    -[x] "Is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
    -[x] "We would also like to inquire why we did not receive any Jaeger support from your forces. Considering the number of Jaegers we've seen at your disposal and the near-instantaneous nature of ANGEL-Net Comms, it seems strange that no reinforcements arrived in time for the fight."
    [X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
    -[x] "Speaking of which, is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
    -[x] "We would also like to inquire why Jaegers were not available for such a critical project. Considering the number of Jaegers we've seen at your disposal and the near-instantaneous nature of ANGEL-Net Comms, it seems strange that no reinforcements arrived in time for the fight."
    [X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
    -[x] "Speaking of which, is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
    --[X] Assume that they were en route, but we just happened to show up first and clear things up before their reinforcements could arrive. It's the most logical reason for their absence, given how we showed up as fast as humanly possible.
    [X] "I notice that some of your number are not present today. Are they perhaps having difficulties that must be attended to immediately?"
    -[X] Make sure they understand that we are not demanding classified details in exchange for our prior assistance; a simple yes/no answer will suffice in this instance, but any additional details they see fit to provide will be appreciated.
 
-[X] "On a more... delicate matter, we are understandably concerned about what could trigger an attack like this. For the sake of both of our groups. When we asked Outpost MICHAEL they said it might have had to do with an experimental Supercell moving through the region.
Do we know for sure it's a supercell? I thought we just knew it was emitting breach radiation.
 
Do we know for sure it's a supercell? I thought we just knew it was emitting breach radiation.
However, they can think of one event that might have caused something. A couple days ago, a small group of KRAUN transports from one of their northern research facilities stopped by for refueling. They didn't stay long-- only about a day before they flew off towards the south-- but their cargo registered the same sort of Breach radiation that Supercell reactors give off.
Bolded the important bit.
Adhoc vote count started by BungieONI on Jun 5, 2018 at 10:53 PM, finished with 32 posts and 7 votes.

  • [X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
    -[x] "Speaking of which, is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
    -[X] "On a more... delicate matter, we are understandably concerned about what could trigger an attack like this. For the sake of both of our groups. When we asked Outpost MICHAEL they said it might have had to do with an experimental Supercell moving through the region.
    -[x] "We would also like to inquire why Jaegers were not available. Considering the number of Jaegers we've seen at your disposal and the near-instantaneous nature of ANGEL-Net Comms, it seems strange that no reinforcements arrived in time for the fight. Were you dealing with some kind of attack elsewhere?"
    [X] Humanity survive by working as a collective, what you see today is merely another example of it.
    -[X] That being said, it appears the kaijus are attracted by a supercell reactor of some kind, may we inquire to what you can tell us about it
    [X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
    -[x] "Is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
    -[x] "We would also like to inquire why we did not receive any Jaeger support from your forces. Considering the number of Jaegers we've seen at your disposal and the near-instantaneous nature of ANGEL-Net Comms, it seems strange that no reinforcements arrived in time for the fight."
    [X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
    -[x] "Speaking of which, is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
    --[X] Assume that they were en route, but we just happened to show up first and clear things up before their reinforcements could arrive. It's the most logical reason for their absence, given how we showed up as fast as humanly possible.
    [X] "I notice that some of your number are not present today. Are they perhaps having difficulties that must be attended to immediately?"
    -[X] Make sure they understand that we are not demanding classified details in exchange for our prior assistance; a simple yes/no answer will suffice in this instance, but any additional details they see fit to provide will be appreciated.
 
[X] "It is our duty to defend not just our territory, not just our citizens, but all of Humanity, wherever we can. Showing up to protect the citizens of Spokane Valley and helping the soldiers on your outpost is part of that duty."
-[x] "Speaking of which, is there any news about the outpost since our return to Neo-Seattle?"
-[X] "On a more... delicate matter, we are understandably concerned about what could trigger an attack like this. For the sake of both of our groups. When we asked Outpost MICHAEL they said it might have had to do with an experimental Supercell moving through the region.
-[x] "We would also like to inquire why Jaegers were not available. Considering the number of Jaegers we've seen at your disposal and the near-instantaneous nature of ANGEL-Net Comms, it seems strange that no reinforcements arrived in time for the fight. Were you dealing with some kind of attack elsewhere?"
 
The Ammo update made them much less likely to burn out, but playtesting sounds like a really good idea. I'll try to do it tonight.
Feels like something we should have been doing a long time ago, honestly. But then, we don't actually get much time between fights to do it, and fights are already playtesting, to some extent.
That thing is weird and probably has some really nasty trick, but I expect that between Jagdhund's range and two other melee Jaegers we won't have much trouble.

It also reminds me we could try upgrading the Neural Disruptor a bit if the opportunity arises.
Oh, I think we can take it. Doesn't mean it'll be an enjoyable fight, though. At least it's unlikely to have friends lurking about. I don't see neural disruptors becoming too powerful, since otherwise they may trivialize fights, but some improvements are probably in order.
Maybe build a functional armored hand that has an outside 'skin' of something like sorbothane, for extra impact/blunt resistance? or maybe the mixed bag approach where the smaller hands are good vs impact blunt and improve the B.S.H. versus edged etc...
Shock absorbing material tends to be softer and prone to tearing, so a hard outer shell is generally superior. But a composite using something like that would work nicely, I think. Mixed-bag requires identifying the damage before blocking, which we might not be able to do.
Nope. Handheld weapons can be equipped during battlefield deployment. You can, of course, assign certain weapons to certain jaegers, but...

In any case, the Jagdgewehr isn't compatible with Jagdhund's spinal rack (either from chassis damage or just being designed for use on an older model), so it'd be a similar situation to carrying the Ascalon Blade pre-sheath; either you bring it and use it, or you don't do either.
...We could seriously stand to research shoulder straps, bandoliers, and/or K-Scale velcro rings. Because this is just getting silly.
Arsenal Fangs, they carry your weapons in this sweet case that doubles as a Buster Sword. The second one doubles as a missile launcher. A third Fang can just plant itself on the ground to serve as cover.

I actually really like this idea, even if we don't make them have secondary armaments/modes. Now we just need to figure out how to make them fly!
As I've said in the past, Oswin seems to have used magnetic field stuff to keep his Bits in the air. That should potentially work as an engineless propulsion system.
My first thought was Mind Control Kaiju. Which is quite possibly the worst thing ever.
Same, but I quickly decided that was unlikely, due to being too OP.
You only have to worry about bending if you are say, shooting a laser from above the water into the water. This phenomenon is why your straw looks weird if you stick it in a cup of water. Works similarly for a laser being shot out of the water, into the air.
Not quite. The surface of any body of water is often going to have high amounts of water vapor above it, varying with the temperature differential and other factors. It's because the water is constantly evaporating to some degree (unless it's freezing). That vapor can bend light, under the right circumstances, though it's very hard to tell. It's part of why sometimes people can see distant objects across lakes or rivers, and other times, they can't.

Mostly, this applies only over long distances, but it's entirely possible that our usually engagement distances are long enough to introduce some issues.
I just realized I stole the idea from Gundam Zabanya's GN Holster Bits. They're literally Shield Bits that have the actual Rifle Bits inside them.

Anyway, the idea is a Fang that holsters the weapon for Jagdhund and once the weapon is retrieved it can still contribute to the battle. The one meant to carry the Jagdgewehr turns into a shield/cover so Jagdhund is extra-protected while sniping, the one holstering the Machine Cannon turns into a Rocket Launcher and the one hostering the Ascalon Blade... I dunno. Turning into a Buster Sword doesn't really fit since the Ascalon Blade would take up a hand already. Maybe an extra Scatter weapon?

All I know is that the one holstering the Machine Cannon will be nicknamed "the Django". For reasons that should be obvious.

Also, we need votes so Fyr can update. I'd personally love it if we could finish this conversation with KRAUN in less than fifty pages. :V
Nah, man. Shoulder-straps. Means that, should you need to drop the gun in a hurry, you don't lose it. It's used in the military, so soldiers don't lose their rifle as easily. You only get one, though, as multiple just looks silly and can get inconvenient.

Edit: These are apparently called "gun slings", in the literature. If you want something slightly more accurate.

[X] BungieOni
 
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[x]BungieONI

I feel like by this point we should have earned the right to know exactly who the hell we're speaking with, especially since they know who we are.

<sigh>

Maybe after Oblivion Bay.
 
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