Sir Kururugi, BUBBLES!
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Sir Kururugi, BUBBLES!
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Hmm...What if...we did a mix all three?
Just to be extra extra.
We invite the Knight of Six over for tea and crumpets, suddenly *BOOM* we are under attack! And it's horrible, those perfidious JSDF infiltrated and our guards betrayed us, Marrybell and Anya are being held Hostage! HOSTAGE, I TELL YOU!
Then Celestial Being comes in and it becomes *even worse*! There's an incoming fleet from the JDSF, it's a disaster! Retreat, men! My forces will hold them off! We will be fine, they wouldn't dare execute us!
Ignore the snickering! We've been bamboozled!
Just to be extra extra.
We invite the Knight of Six over for tea and crumpets, suddenly *BOOM* we are under attack! And it's horrible, those perfidious JSDF infiltrated and our guards betrayed us, Marrybell and Anya are being held Hostage! HOSTAGE, I TELL YOU!
Then Celestial Being comes in and it becomes *even worse*! There's an incoming fleet from the JDSF, it's a disaster! Retreat, men! My forces will hold them off! We will be fine, they wouldn't dare execute us!
Ignore the snickering! We've been bamboozled!
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ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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Kidnapping doesn't strike me as all that workable, since if Marianne does take control of Anya, I very much doubt we can stop her from forcing her way out of the Pendragon and then we'll be stuck in a worse situation than we would be if we went for the "Consider this self-disownment" option, as we would lose the element of surprise and potentially have to make due only with the rebel forces (both "A quiet word" and "Consider this self-disownment" would result in a fight between Loyalist Britannian forces and Rebel Britannian forces before they reach Kamine, and the rebels are at a disadvantage when it comes to strength, so we need to compensate for that in as many ways as possible). Still think it's safer to wait until the Britannian armada gets close to Kamine and then we engage them with local support, which would also give us some leeway for potential problems in the form of Zero. As for Knight of Six, best to engage her with someone with high Ability and strong boosting abilities (any true GN-Drive Gundam in Trans-Am, Kira Yamato, Amuro Ray, Kamille Bidan, Alterverse!Stella Loussier), disable her unit and then haul the now disable Mordred someplace where we can keep her captive (the reason why I only want stronger pilots to fight Anya is because if Marianne does take control, I expect her to be at least on par with Frontal's 12 Ability, if not potentially higher, which would limit the number of units that could actually fight her head-on).
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I'd call kidnapping the most workable, in this case, because it means Marianne isn't in a goddamn 7th Gen Knightmare Frame.
I do agree waiting and having more support around is better than not, but I think we need a little more planning here than "just ambush the landing"
So there was a chance if they failed in this fight then the Angel would have been able to get to something it could use to fuck over everyone is what you saying Right? What is the Termial Dogma because from what your saying it's something we need to keep guarded very well.
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The issue is...
What do we think is better?
Removing an Ace from the field, potentially not permanently, but sacrificing any immediate backup in the process.
Pulling off an Ambush with some added support, but having to fight the Ace with them.
Or we mostly seceed the element of surprise, but we get a lot more backup in general.
Or we do a fourth thing.
EDIT: I just had a possible legit idea.
Tenative name is Operation Calvary, no vote yet.
We, as stealthily as we can, set up a Fleet action with as many naval or air forces the JSDF can muster. Celestial Being and any similar support goes with them, acting as a seperate force as the "Calvary". They will send a counterstrike towards the Brittanian forces with little coordination with ours to minimize leakage.
Meanwhile, our Brittanian forces will make a plan with the Knight of Six that will try and position our forces in spots that will be good for supporting our "Loyal Brittanian Allies", but in reality would let us hit as hard as we can at their backs when their guards are faced towards the JSDF.
Basically, at the eve of battle with the JSDF and Celestial Being, we shoot our "fellow Brittanians" right in the ass, performing a very sudden, yet truly inevitable, Calvary Betrayal.
What do we think is better?
Removing an Ace from the field, potentially not permanently, but sacrificing any immediate backup in the process.
Pulling off an Ambush with some added support, but having to fight the Ace with them.
Or we mostly seceed the element of surprise, but we get a lot more backup in general.
Or we do a fourth thing.
EDIT: I just had a possible legit idea.
Tenative name is Operation Calvary, no vote yet.
We, as stealthily as we can, set up a Fleet action with as many naval or air forces the JSDF can muster. Celestial Being and any similar support goes with them, acting as a seperate force as the "Calvary". They will send a counterstrike towards the Brittanian forces with little coordination with ours to minimize leakage.
Meanwhile, our Brittanian forces will make a plan with the Knight of Six that will try and position our forces in spots that will be good for supporting our "Loyal Brittanian Allies", but in reality would let us hit as hard as we can at their backs when their guards are faced towards the JSDF.
Basically, at the eve of battle with the JSDF and Celestial Being, we shoot our "fellow Brittanians" right in the ass, performing a very sudden, yet truly inevitable, Calvary Betrayal.
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The thing is with the amount of forces available they have the numbers but we have the more powerful units especially with the Nemos and Jegans as they will have more thrust and firepower even under water compared to every thing but the enemies under water Knightmares. The tanks will be useless for both sides at sea and the Airpower is about even. The issue is that the Mordred and Marianne together are probably the best unit present unless we bring support for Marybell and Cornelia.
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Terminal Dogma is the Angels' objective, it's located underneath NERV HQ, and bad things happen if one of them get there. I'll let the details be a surprise if you haven't watched Evangelion.
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Extremely spoiler-y, which I won't do here, but if an Angel reaches Terminal Dogma, it is Instant Game Over.
Full-on Unstoppable Apocalypse.
And no, we can't do anything about it right now. For the moment, our only option is to guard it...and we don't know about any of this in-quest (right now), so all we can do is guard NERV HQ, with Terminal Dogma (unbeknowst to us) being the secret bottom floor of the base (3 km below the surface of Tokyo).
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Well shit. That can't be good. The Vincent is the Lancelot's mass production version - I didn't think Britannia had them yet. The Akatsuki is more or less its match, but I'd advise waiting to get backup rather than fight at sea. We're badly outnumbered and they have better units than us.
Oh fuck the hell yes.
Terminal Dogma is a massive spoiler. Suffice it to say that if an Angel ever successfully reaches it, humanity will no longer exist.
The thing is we have
D-Type Jegan x10
Nemo x30
Nemo III x20
With the Mobilesuits while not being specialized for amphibious combat are going to be much better then the Knightmare Frames at it by a lot bar the Portmans. Also their beam weapons will tear the crap out of the Airships.
VF-171 x15
While the Variable fighters that we have are better in the air then anything else bar Marianne's Mordred with her in the cockpit and maybe the other custom Lancelot units present. I think we have the quality advantage while they have a bit of numbers on us.
Red_Knight25
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Tempted to call in Celestial Being again, but we've been kinda really leaning into Trans-AM this turn.
On the other hand, Warning the JSDF and getting at least the Black Knights as backup has the much better name.
On the other hand, Warning the JSDF and getting at least the Black Knights as backup has the much better name.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
Trying to put ShiftingSandLand's proposed write-in operation (aka operation Cavalry) into plan form... opinions are welcome (NOTE: As of now, this is mostly going to be a draft; do not vote for it until it is discussed some more, QM confirms that it is valid and we've made sure that the plan is actually good)
[] Operation Cavalry
-[] Lean on the JSDF and the Black Knights and see what aerial and naval forces they can gather for an armada that would move to intercept the Britannian armada headed for Kamine Island.
--[] At the same time, have the Solar Vanguard see if it has any forces that are able to reinforce the JSDF-Black Knights armada. (be it Vanguard forces present in Japan or Vanguard assets that could make it in time to aid the JSDF-Black Knights forces, even if they are farther away)
---[] Attempts at coordinating with the Britannian rebel forces by the newly gathered armada will be kept at minimum until combat actually start in order to hopefully minimize any risk of loyalist forces catching onto the plan.
-[] Once the Britannian forces detect the JSDF-Black Knights-Solar Vanguard armada headed for them and convene a strategy meeting in order to decide how to best deal with said armada, have Cornelia and Marrybell insert themselves into said meeting, with the aim of trying to maintain their cover and, if they believe they can get away with it, position the forces loyal to them in such a way that they can inflict as much damage on the Britannian loyalists once the Britannian rebels turn on them.
-[] When the battle starts, have the rebel Britannian turn on the loyalist forces.
-[] (More to be determined after the current draft has been discussed)
[] Operation Cavalry
-[] Lean on the JSDF and the Black Knights and see what aerial and naval forces they can gather for an armada that would move to intercept the Britannian armada headed for Kamine Island.
--[] At the same time, have the Solar Vanguard see if it has any forces that are able to reinforce the JSDF-Black Knights armada. (be it Vanguard forces present in Japan or Vanguard assets that could make it in time to aid the JSDF-Black Knights forces, even if they are farther away)
---[] Attempts at coordinating with the Britannian rebel forces by the newly gathered armada will be kept at minimum until combat actually start in order to hopefully minimize any risk of loyalist forces catching onto the plan.
-[] Once the Britannian forces detect the JSDF-Black Knights-Solar Vanguard armada headed for them and convene a strategy meeting in order to decide how to best deal with said armada, have Cornelia and Marrybell insert themselves into said meeting, with the aim of trying to maintain their cover and, if they believe they can get away with it, position the forces loyal to them in such a way that they can inflict as much damage on the Britannian loyalists once the Britannian rebels turn on them.
-[] When the battle starts, have the rebel Britannian turn on the loyalist forces.
-[] (More to be determined after the current draft has been discussed)
EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
Where actually even is Suzaku, anyway? Last (and only) time I remember him being involved with stuff onscreen, he was having trouble fitting in with the Newtype crew when Future Stella came into the picture and seemed to have some faction friction going on.
I like the guy (enough that I've got a 130k+ AU and SI fic starring him on a few other sites)... but I don't remember a ton of the CG AU circumstances relating to Japan and Suzaku's history therewith in this fic, and I consequently have some concerns about which direction he might point his gun at when surprised with an abrupt Britannian civil war.
Or is he just so far out of focus as to effectively not matter here?
I like the guy (enough that I've got a 130k+ AU and SI fic starring him on a few other sites)... but I don't remember a ton of the CG AU circumstances relating to Japan and Suzaku's history therewith in this fic, and I consequently have some concerns about which direction he might point his gun at when surprised with an abrupt Britannian civil war.
Or is he just so far out of focus as to effectively not matter here?
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
We recruited him on Turn 6, but we didn't exactly deploy him in any mission (we could have deployed him for the Turn 7 Angel Fight, but otherwise we did not have the occasion to deploy him for any other combat mission). I don't think we have to worry about him betraying us, but it might not hurt to check with QM on the matter (he was noted to "Express a negative opinion toward the Black Knights", but we didn't deploy him at the same time we deployed Black Knight units).
Seems good, I can excuse not being caught leaking the plans with using Celestial Being's private communications as a proxy. That, or using a subordinate as a scapegoat.
Don't worry, I have a scene with Lelouch and Suzaku planned for the Black Knights getting involved.
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The plan looks pretty good so far!
I will say, this is the perfect time for Getter-3 to shine (for once) in terms of potential Vanguard assets/support. They don't get used very much, which is sad.
With the combined group of Local forces, JSDF forces, SV support, and Celestial Being, it could pose a legitimate challenge and threat to the combined Brittanian invasion fleet.
And that's without the Sudden, yet Inevitable happening.
...Should probably add that one of our priorities is capturing the Knight of Six.
I will say, this is the perfect time for Getter-3 to shine (for once) in terms of potential Vanguard assets/support. They don't get used very much, which is sad.
With the combined group of Local forces, JSDF forces, SV support, and Celestial Being, it could pose a legitimate challenge and threat to the combined Brittanian invasion fleet.
And that's without the Sudden, yet Inevitable happening.
...Should probably add that one of our priorities is capturing the Knight of Six.
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ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
[] Operation Cavalry
-[] Lean on the JSDF and the Black Knights and see what aerial and naval forces they can gather for an armada that would move to intercept the Britannian armada headed for Kamine Island.
--[] Check and see if Zero is able to take part in this operation.
---[] Provided he does become involved with the mission, get Zero's opinion on the information obtained from the OSI leak and his willingness to act on it. If he does want to act on it, then make the necessary preperations to potentially get Jeremiah Gottwald back on the Solar Vanguard's side.
--[] At the same time, have the Solar Vanguard see if it has any forces that are able to reinforce the JSDF-Black Knights armada. (be it Vanguard forces present in Japan or Vanguard assets that could make it in time to aid the JSDF-Black Knights forces, even if they are farther away)
---[] Attempts at coordinating with the Britannian rebel forces by the newly gathered armada will be kept at minimum until combat actually start in order to hopefully minimize any risk of loyalist forces catching onto the plan.
---[] Provided that Celestial Being is able to participate in this mission, have the Ptolemios serve as a middleman for communications between the Britannian rebels and the rest of the allied armada.
-[] Once the Britannian forces detect the JSDF-Black Knights-Solar Vanguard armada headed for them and convene a strategy meeting in order to decide how to best deal with said armada, have Cornelia and Marrybell insert themselves into said meeting, with the aim of trying to maintain their cover and, if they believe they can get away with it, position the forces loyal to them in such a way that they can inflict as much damage on the Britannian loyalists once the Britannian rebels turn on them.
-[] When the battle starts, have the rebel Britannian forces turn on their loyalist counterpart and pincer them between the rebels and the Solar Vanguard forces.
-[] (More to be determined after the current draft has been discussed)
Worked some more on the plan for Operation Cavalry. I'm still taking suggestions as to how we should proceed here, so feel free to comment on the plan some more.
-[] Lean on the JSDF and the Black Knights and see what aerial and naval forces they can gather for an armada that would move to intercept the Britannian armada headed for Kamine Island.
--[] Check and see if Zero is able to take part in this operation.
---[] Provided he does become involved with the mission, get Zero's opinion on the information obtained from the OSI leak and his willingness to act on it. If he does want to act on it, then make the necessary preperations to potentially get Jeremiah Gottwald back on the Solar Vanguard's side.
--[] At the same time, have the Solar Vanguard see if it has any forces that are able to reinforce the JSDF-Black Knights armada. (be it Vanguard forces present in Japan or Vanguard assets that could make it in time to aid the JSDF-Black Knights forces, even if they are farther away)
---[] Attempts at coordinating with the Britannian rebel forces by the newly gathered armada will be kept at minimum until combat actually start in order to hopefully minimize any risk of loyalist forces catching onto the plan.
---[] Provided that Celestial Being is able to participate in this mission, have the Ptolemios serve as a middleman for communications between the Britannian rebels and the rest of the allied armada.
-[] Once the Britannian forces detect the JSDF-Black Knights-Solar Vanguard armada headed for them and convene a strategy meeting in order to decide how to best deal with said armada, have Cornelia and Marrybell insert themselves into said meeting, with the aim of trying to maintain their cover and, if they believe they can get away with it, position the forces loyal to them in such a way that they can inflict as much damage on the Britannian loyalists once the Britannian rebels turn on them.
-[] When the battle starts, have the rebel Britannian forces turn on their loyalist counterpart and pincer them between the rebels and the Solar Vanguard forces.
-[] (More to be determined after the current draft has been discussed)
Worked some more on the plan for Operation Cavalry. I'm still taking suggestions as to how we should proceed here, so feel free to comment on the plan some more.
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- Painting, Peach's Castle
Hm..So, our objectives are...
1. Capture the Knight of Six
2. Rescue Jeremiah Gottwald (should the evidence prove accurate).
3. Rout the Brittanian Loyalist Fleet.
I think we can make this work, though we should probably emphasize the Capture, since losing the Knight of Six would be a brutal loss to Brittania, and meta-wise it's a much bigger boon than we know IC.
1. Capture the Knight of Six
2. Rescue Jeremiah Gottwald (should the evidence prove accurate).
3. Rout the Brittanian Loyalist Fleet.
I think we can make this work, though we should probably emphasize the Capture, since losing the Knight of Six would be a brutal loss to Brittania, and meta-wise it's a much bigger boon than we know IC.
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ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
- Location
- Romania
[] Operation Cavalry
-[] Lean on the JSDF and the Black Knights and see what aerial and naval forces they can gather for an armada that would move to intercept the Britannian armada headed for Kamine Island.
--[] Check and see if Zero is able to take part in this operation.
---[] Provided he does become involved with the mission, get Zero's opinion on the information obtained from the OSI leak and his willingness to act on it. If he does want to act on it, then make the necessary preperations to potentially get Jeremiah Gottwald back on the Solar Vanguard's side, provided that the leak is indeed real.
--[] At the same time, have the Solar Vanguard see if it has any forces that are able to reinforce the JSDF-Black Knights armada. (be it Vanguard forces present in Japan or Vanguard assets that could make it in time to aid the JSDF-Black Knights forces, even if they are farther away)
---[] Attempts at coordinating with the Britannian rebel forces by the newly gathered armada will be kept at minimum until combat actually start in order to hopefully minimize any risk of loyalist forces catching onto the plan.
---[] Provided that Celestial Being is able to participate in this mission, have the Ptolemios serve as a middleman for communications between the Britannian rebels and the rest of the allied armada.
-[] Once the Britannian forces detect the JSDF-Black Knights-Solar Vanguard armada headed for them and convene a strategy meeting in order to decide how to best deal with said armada, have Cornelia and Marrybell insert themselves into said meeting, with the aim of trying to maintain their cover and, if they believe they can get away with it, position the forces loyal to them in such a way that they can inflict as much damage on the Britannian loyalists once the Britannian rebels turn on them.
-[] When the battle starts, have the rebel Britannian forces turn on their loyalist counterpart and pincer them between the rebels and the Solar Vanguard forces.
--[] The main objectives in this battle are to rout the loyalist elements of the Britannian armada and capturing the Knight of Six so as to better ascertain why is Britannia so interested in capturing Kamine Island.
-[] (More to be determined after the current draft has been discussed)
Made a few more minor modifications to the plan. Opinions are still welcome. (been thinking about two more potential ideas to add to the plan: having the Glinda Knights' Sutherland Eye call attention to the incoming JSDF-Black Knights-Solar Vanguard armada to the rest of the Britannian fleet and having the strategy meeting be started by either one of the two royals on our side in case the Sutherland Eye has significantly better detection capabilities than other surveillance units the Britannian fleet brought with them so as to better reinforce the cover of Marrybell and Cornelia's forces as being loyal to Britannia and preparing a scapegoat/a willing fanatic in case communications between the rebel Britannia forces and the Ptolemios leak to the loyalists)
EDIT: I'm heading to bed. When I wake up, I'll see if people have shared any more opinions on the plan and likely post a finalized version that can be hopefully be voted for safely.
-[] Lean on the JSDF and the Black Knights and see what aerial and naval forces they can gather for an armada that would move to intercept the Britannian armada headed for Kamine Island.
--[] Check and see if Zero is able to take part in this operation.
---[] Provided he does become involved with the mission, get Zero's opinion on the information obtained from the OSI leak and his willingness to act on it. If he does want to act on it, then make the necessary preperations to potentially get Jeremiah Gottwald back on the Solar Vanguard's side, provided that the leak is indeed real.
--[] At the same time, have the Solar Vanguard see if it has any forces that are able to reinforce the JSDF-Black Knights armada. (be it Vanguard forces present in Japan or Vanguard assets that could make it in time to aid the JSDF-Black Knights forces, even if they are farther away)
---[] Attempts at coordinating with the Britannian rebel forces by the newly gathered armada will be kept at minimum until combat actually start in order to hopefully minimize any risk of loyalist forces catching onto the plan.
---[] Provided that Celestial Being is able to participate in this mission, have the Ptolemios serve as a middleman for communications between the Britannian rebels and the rest of the allied armada.
-[] Once the Britannian forces detect the JSDF-Black Knights-Solar Vanguard armada headed for them and convene a strategy meeting in order to decide how to best deal with said armada, have Cornelia and Marrybell insert themselves into said meeting, with the aim of trying to maintain their cover and, if they believe they can get away with it, position the forces loyal to them in such a way that they can inflict as much damage on the Britannian loyalists once the Britannian rebels turn on them.
-[] When the battle starts, have the rebel Britannian forces turn on their loyalist counterpart and pincer them between the rebels and the Solar Vanguard forces.
--[] The main objectives in this battle are to rout the loyalist elements of the Britannian armada and capturing the Knight of Six so as to better ascertain why is Britannia so interested in capturing Kamine Island.
-[] (More to be determined after the current draft has been discussed)
Made a few more minor modifications to the plan. Opinions are still welcome. (been thinking about two more potential ideas to add to the plan: having the Glinda Knights' Sutherland Eye call attention to the incoming JSDF-Black Knights-Solar Vanguard armada to the rest of the Britannian fleet and having the strategy meeting be started by either one of the two royals on our side in case the Sutherland Eye has significantly better detection capabilities than other surveillance units the Britannian fleet brought with them so as to better reinforce the cover of Marrybell and Cornelia's forces as being loyal to Britannia and preparing a scapegoat/a willing fanatic in case communications between the rebel Britannia forces and the Ptolemios leak to the loyalists)
EDIT: I'm heading to bed. When I wake up, I'll see if people have shared any more opinions on the plan and likely post a finalized version that can be hopefully be voted for safely.
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Updated stats for a lot of the pilots in the roster, and also increased ability score for a lot of pilots to account for experience gained.