I don't think the Unicorn stuff is that important anymore, or at least not right now.

As I said earlier but may have been missed due to it being a late edit: the Earth Federation is already in a state of civil war since Blue Cosmos and Britannia are turning on each other. What do Laplace's Box or its key matter now?
 
As I said earlier but may have been missed due to it being a late edit: the Earth Federation is already in a state of civil war since Blue Cosmos and Britannia are turning on each other. What do Laplace's Box or its key matter now?

While it can be argued that Laplace's Box is not going to be relevant (this is something we won't be sure about until we actually know its contents for sure, since there is a possibility that its contents differ from what it was in Gundam Unicorn), knocking the Unicorn plot off rails now by not making the alliance with the Garancieres would mean that the Vist Foundation and Full Frontal will remain as threats for us to deal with for a longer period of time and one could argue that we have enough enemies as it is, so it would be in our best interest to reduce the number of enemies we have to deal with. Also, as I've said earlier, Haman might be displeased with us not taking The Lady and the Unicorn, since it does put Mineva at risk (this is only speculation, therefore it could be wrong).
For the sake of the argument, let's say that The Lady and the Unicorn isn't actually important enough for us to take here and that we can risk whatever is going to happen by not taking the action. That still leaves Appealing to Ereshkigal, since we don't want Nergal to pull out, given how much we depend on them for logistics, and taking the action either helps in making sure they stay or guarantees they stay. But let's say that we're willing to risk letting Nergal leave us for some reason or another. Even with both Appealing to Ereshkigal and The Lady and the Unicorn deemed as actions that we can risk ignoring, there's also one of either Showdown in Cephiro (which some people in the thread have been trying to make a case for its importance on the grounds that the Magic Knights could use the help in case the Council shows up and that they may need moral support for the aftermath of their final battle for the current part of their plot) or Task Force Katharon (I would normally advocate this as more important than Refining Beastly Instinct, since we could use intel on Ribbons, but your plan does take the GN research, which does undercut the threat the A-LAWS represents to Celestial Being, so unless you want to go for Mobile Suit Evolutions as the research action, then there's no reason for you to swap Refining Beastly Instinct for Task Force Katharon)
 
[X] Plan: Victory Gundam lead us to Victory.
-[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
--[X] Nina
-[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
--[X] Kazuya
--[X] Banagher
-[X] Chosen AI: ALICE System
-[X] Mobile Suit Evolutions
-[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
--[X] Marina Ismail
--[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
--[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
--[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
-[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
-[X] Showdown in Cephiro
-[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.
 
I'm still generally inclined to think Nergal is bluffing in their threats to pull out, but I nay change my vote later.

As far as the kids in Cephiro are concerned, 1) AFAIK history suggests to me that the Council are going to prioritize the protagonist, so keeping her away from Cephiro lessens the risk of the Magic Knights having to deal with more than Zagato and Emeraude, whom they should be able to defeat on their own. 2) I'm not aware of a reason that we can't still link up with them for moral support afterwards.

Insofar as Haman goes, last I remember she's generally thought by the wider public to be dead. She's not as much of a risk as if she were still running Axis Zeon; even if she went rogue, she's gonna have to compete with the Sleeves for support to get very far. And another reason I voted for socializing with Banagher is so that the Unicorn side of the crossover isn't totally nneglected before he inevitably goes running off after Mineva.
 
Hmm looking at our options, let's review if they really need inmediate interference.

On the AI.

Alice gives us a gundam and is a co-pilot of it and that is pretty much is.

Meanwhile Frontier Setter is a pretty good hacker and while Ruri it is a pretty good one, reminder that we are still on TV-Series Nadesico, I don't remember if Ruri actually does some serious hacking on SRW till we hit the events and timeskip of Prince of Darkness where she is older and has more control over her powers.

As for our 4 options

First we have A demon's Sorrow.
TBH Lelouch just confessed to 3 girls, Kallen, C.C. and Shirley and I doubt any of them is gonna sit on their asses and not try to drag Lelouch out and try to cool his mind and act as a support net, so this really doesn't need inmediate intervention.

Then we have forming a political party.
We all are pretty much in agreement we need this done this turn, as the civil war and Vist fundation fuckery needs to be dealt with.

Then we have Erishkigal, tbh do we even trust Nergal to not try to pull one on us even if we diplomacy our way out of this or threathen them? Nergal already tried to pull one of us to keep the jovian lizards truth under the grave and we still have that information over his head, but I see the point that we need them in a leash so they don't cause trouble.

As for the lady and the unicorn.
The problem comes mostly from Vist and Full Frontal going off rails and becoming even more of a wild card than what they are already, while we did disable Full Frontal for some turns, we cannot let him get back on his feet considering this guy pretty much follows CCA Char's phylosofy.

For the info Gathering on the A-Laws, tbh, not only we got rid of one of Ribbons most cockroaching aces, but also pretty much destroyed the throne Zwei which puts Ribbons back on the drawing board for his plans as he needs to assess us now to see why the Zwei got destroyed, on the other hand we have left Giganos and ZAFT fairly up to their own devices and considering the climax from SEED is coming soon one could make the case for investigating ZAFT at least.

Showdown on Cephiro, as already stated, the girls will need the emotional support apart from in case the council fucking things up, but I also remembered another faction that was in Cephiro apart from Debonair on the 2nd part, the Jama kingdom, those fuckers are not going to sit off their asses and not attack us as soon as they get a chance to get back on earth again, hell so far we know they are on Cephiro, but other than that we don't know what the hell they are doing.

From Beastly instincs, well we just gain the information of what the Dancouga Nova team mission is, but other than that there is no bigger gain.

Then we have the other one everyone considers obligatory and that is the EVA events, we know the pilots being broken is pretty much primordial for 3rd impact so.
 
From Beastly instincs, well we just gain the information of what the Dancouga Nova team mission is, but other than that there is no bigger gain.

I may be one of the people who believes that Refining Beastly Instinct is of low priority here, but to play Devil's Advocate here, depending on how things go in the plot, taking Refining Beastly Instinct might net us the R-Daigun as an ally sooner.
 
Showdown on Cephiro, as already stated, the girls will need the emotional support apart from in case the council fucking things up, but I also remembered another faction that was in Cephiro apart from Debonair on the 2nd part, the Jama kingdom, those fuckers are not going to sit off their asses and not attack us as soon as they get a chance to get back on earth again, hell so far we know they are on Cephiro, but other than that we don't know what the hell they are doing.
Fair enough, I forgot about those Jama Kingdom SOBs.

[x]Plan EvaUnit01
-[x] Consult the Samsara system
-[x] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
--[x] Kira
--[x] Banagher
-[x] ALICE System
-[x] GN Particle technology
-[x] A Demon's Sorrow
-[x] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
--[x] Marina Ismail
--[x] Kaguya Sumeragi
--[x] The Ruling Council of Orb
--[x] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
-[x] Refining Beastly Instinct
-[x] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!
Be informed that I replaced the Dancougar Nova option with the Rayearth option.
 
[X] Plan: Victory Gundam lead us to Victory.
-[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
--[X] Nina
-[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
--[X] Kazuya
--[X] Banagher
-[X] Chosen AI: ALICE System
-[X] Mobile Suit Evolutions
-[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
--[X] Marina Ismail
--[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
--[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
--[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
-[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
-[X] Showdown in Cephiro
-[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.
 
[X] Plan: Victory Gundam lead us to Victory.
-[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
--[X] Nina
-[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
--[X] Kazuya
--[X] Banagher
-[X] Chosen AI: ALICE System
-[X] Mobile Suit Evolutions
-[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
--[X] Marina Ismail
--[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
--[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
--[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
-[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
-[X] Showdown in Cephiro
-[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.
 
EX Scenario: Breaking an unjust walking stick
November UE 0083
Outskirts of Kursk, Russia

You are Yzak Joule, and at the moment you have mixed feelings. On the one hand, you're not fighting other humans, which is a welcome development after you sat out the massacre that occurred at Panama. On the other, you're fighting the Jovian Lizards in an attempt to destroy what both ZAFT and Natural intelligence has seen fit to codename 'The Walking Stick'.

The Walking Stick is a massive Jovian Lizard artillery piece that fires what can only be described as micro black holes with pinpoint accuracy. Both the EFF and ZAFT combined have attempted to destroy the Walking Stick at least 8 times in the past, with no survivors returning for either faction. You just hope that you and your team won't become another failed attempt. At first you'd questioned the wisdom of attempting to destroy something that was screwing over the now disparate factions in the Earth Federation's civil war, Creuset was pick to point out that it was destroying just as much of ZAFT's shipping as the Federation's.

You shake your head to clear your thoughts.

"Housenka, status!" You bark.

"All teams report that they're ready. Designated transport teams have spare parts, ammunition, and power packs loaded. We're ready to move out when you say the word." Shiho Hahnenfuss reports.

You give a quiet sigh before responding.

"Okay. All teams, move out!" You order.

Aside from your Duel Gundam and Shiho's CGUE DEEP Arms, your own team consists of a half dozen GINNs, all manned by pilots with at least some experience fighting in a planet's gravity well. There are four other combat teams: Sabretooth team consists of 10 BuCUEs, five missile and five railgun, Piledriver team is composed of 12 GINNs, 5 of them loaded with Type-D anti-fortress/ship equipment, Hadrian team is made up of 2 CGUEs and 8 GINNs, and the last unit, Parabola team, is composed entirely of ZuOOTs, 6 to be precise. The transport teams round things out to handle the force's logistical needs.

Your force begins moving into the wilderness outside of Kursk, and after making good time, make camp for the night.

You sit down with a pasta ration next to a nearby river. You take a glance at the label: Fettucine Pesto. Well, at least you didn't get one of the marinara rations, those are always way too salty.

Your thoughts are interrupted by the sound of someone sitting down next to you, and you turn to see Shiho.

"What's up, Housenka?" You ask as you open up your ration pack.

"I just wanted to see how you were doing. I heard about what happened down in Panama..." Shiho says while glancing down at the ground.

"What happened down there is something I'm not happy to have witnessed." You state with an air of finality. Shiho gets the hint, and the two of you eat your rations in silence.

"Yzak...you can always talk to me if you're feeling down, you know." Shiho says as she turns away. You mull over her words for a few seconds.

"Thanks. I know." You say after a bit.

Shiho scoots over and leans against you. The two of you look up at the moon for a few minutes before cleaning up and going back to the main camp.

The next day

"Fucking damn it! Somebody take down those Tierens!" A member of Hadrian team yells.

You had almost reached the Walking Stick when you had been ambushed by Jovian Lizards. To your displeasure, they did not consist only of Grasshoppers, but also leftover Human Reform League mobile suits and old Type 61 tanks. By themselves, the old machines didn't pose any threat, but their sheer numbers were causing you to get bogged down, and you're running out of time, you had been told last night that the Walking Stick was beginning to power up.

"Okay, new plan! Hadrian team, stay here and hold off these Jovian Lizard forces! Sabretooth team, go ahead and clear a path for us! Piledriver and Parabola team, stick with us!" You order.

The other team leaders make gestures of assent, with the two CGUEs of Hadrian team spraying rounds from their shield gatling cannons to suppress the automated Tierens in the distance.

"Move!" Shiho yells as Sabretooth team advances ahead of you.

You all advance into the ruins of Kursk.

"Sabretooth team, status?" You ask over the radio.

"This is Sabretooth lead, we've encountered heavy resistance! We'll keep them occupied, you can go around using an alternate path." Sabretooth lead answers.

"Roger that, good hunting. Joule team out." You respond before signaling with the Duel's hand that you're going onto one of the alternate paths.

Just before you reach the walking stick, your group is blindsided by a mixed force of Grasshoppers, Tierens, and Type 61 tanks. The opening salvo destroys two of the GINNs of Piledriver team and one of the ZuOOTs.

You fire the Duel's Shiva railgun at one of the offending Tierens while Shiho sprays the CGUE DEEP Arms' beam cannons at the enemy.

"We don't have time for this!" One of the pilots of Parabola team says.

"Agreed, focus on breaking through!" You yell as you charge ahead with the Duel.

You end up losing another 3 GINNs, but manage to push through the Jovian forces and make it to the Walking Stick proper.

"Okay, let 'em have it, fire at will!" You order.

You fire all of the Duel Gundam's weapons, beam rifle, Shiva railgun, and missiles tearing a hole in the side of the Walking Stick. The ZuOOTs and D-Type GINNs open up as well, anti-ship missiles and artillery shells slamming into the alien weapon. Shiho fires the CGUE DEEP Arms' beam cannons at it as well. As the smoke clears, you see that the Walking Stick is sparking. After a few seconds of this, there's a large flash of light, followed by an explosion in the Walking Stick's barrel.

You sigh in relief. You would never admit it, but you feel a lot better about this than what happened in Panama.

A/N: Something I had in mind a while back, but couldn't justify including in a main post.
 
Good to know that ZAFT hasn't hooked up with the Jovians (or, at least, not yet).

I have some issues with the Victory plan:
  1. We want one of the personal actions to be Consult the Samsara system so that we can see how it works and because the help it provides now would be focused on ending the current civil war, which is a high priority for us (also, as a matter of personal opinion, I'm more interested in talking with Heero to see how he and his friends joined up with Treize, but that's a more of a preference, not a necessity);
  2. Not taking Appealing to Ereshkigal, since we're dependent on Nergal for logistics, so we can't have them leave us and I don't want to gamble that we can make them stay without taking the action related to them. To that end, The Lady and the Unicorn or Showdown in Cephiro should be replaced with Appealing to Ereshkigal.
[] Plan: Victory Gundam lead us to Victory, Secured Logistics and Unicorn
-[] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
--[] Nina
-[] Consult the Samsara system
-[] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
--[] Banagher
-[] Chosen AI: ALICE System
-[] Mobile Suit Evolutions
-[] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
--[] Marina Ismail
--[] Kaguya Sumeragi
--[] The Ruling Council of Orb
--[] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
-[] Appealing to Ereshkigal
--[] Diplomatically
-[] The Lady and the Unicorn
-[] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!

[] Plan: Victory Gundam lead us to Victory, Secured Logistics and Safeguarded Knights
-[] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
--[] Nina
-[] Consult the Samsara system
-[] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
--[] Banagher
-[] Chosen AI: ALICE System
-[] Mobile Suit Evolutions
-[] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
--[] Marina Ismail
--[] Kaguya Sumeragi
--[] The Ruling Council of Orb
--[] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
-[] Appealing to Ereshkigal
--[] Diplomatically
-[] Showdown in Cephiro
-[] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!

EDIT: To move on to something more interesting than attempting to fix plans based on subjective views (even the insistence on taking the Nergal action to ensure they don't bail on us could be argued to be a decision born from the fact that I'm risk adverse and do not want to gamble on Nergal staying without us taking the action related to them)... theorycrafting potential F90 configurations (note that we don't know how the modularity of the F90 will be implemented in-quest and which of the mission packs will be included, so the theorycrafting I'll be doing might not match with what we'll be getting in-quest)
For Amuro (he's in need of an upgrade from the Gustav Karl he's currently using), General Use: Type N Mission Pack + any of the following packs/some combination of them: Type A, Type B, Type D, Type O, Type S, Type V.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by theguynamedwafer on May 27, 2023 at 5:31 PM, finished with 34 posts and 10 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Victory Gundam lead us to Victory.
    -[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
    --[X] Nina
    -[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
    --[X] Kazuya
    --[X] Banagher
    -[X] Chosen AI: ALICE System
    -[X] Mobile Suit Evolutions
    -[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
    --[X] Marina Ismail
    --[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
    --[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
    --[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
    -[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
    -[X] Showdown in Cephiro
    -[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.
    [X] Plan: The calm and the storm that is approaching.
    -[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
    --[X] Nina
    -[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
    --[X] Kazuya
    --[X] Banagher
    -[X] Chosen AI: Frontier Setter
    -[X] GN Particle technology
    -[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
    --[X] Marina Ismail
    --[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
    --[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
    --[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
    -[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
    -[X] Showdown in Cephiro
    -[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.
    [x]Plan EvaUnit01
    -[x] Consult the Samsara system
    -[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
    --[x] Kira
    --[X] Banagher
    -[x] ALICE System
    -[X] GN Particle technology
    -[x] A Demon's Sorrow
    -[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
    --[X] Marina Ismail
    --[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
    --[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
    --[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
    -[X] Showdown in Cephiro
    -[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.
    [X] Plan Securing our Position
    -[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
    --[X] Nina
    -[x] Consult the Samsara system
    -[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
    --[X] Heero
    -[X] Chosen AI: Frontier Setter
    -[X] Mobile Suit Evolutions
    -[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
    --[X] Marina Ismail
    --[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
    --[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
    --[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
    -[X] Appealing to Ereshkigal
    --[X] Diplomatically
    -[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
    -[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.


Vote closed. For better or worse, the majority picked Mobile Suit Evolutions for the research option, which I was not expecting to win. Looks like dealing with Sahaquiel without a functioning sniper mech on the part of Celestial Being is going to be...interesting.
 
2nd the pillar system of Cephiro is beyond fucked till the end of Rayearth where the magic knights tell the original system to go screw itself and put in place another one.

Even on T and 30 nothing could be done, like we would need high end reality manipulators if we even want to recruit Zagato and show him a different path.

Then there is Emeraude, after pretty much going mad with grief over Zagato death her only and last will is to be killed to reunite with Zagato.

I have always been a little confused with the Rayearth plot but Zagato was trying to Save Esmeraude right because she was getting messed up acting as the Pillar and he was the only one who knew right? Then when he dies Esmeraude gets really angry and wants revenge right?

the GN-X squad is currently our strongest generic type squad, at Ability 7, though this can change in the future even if we don't go for the GN research), while Mobile Suit Evolutions represents versatility (the Dagger units and the Windam (once we get the research for it) can use Striker Packs, which allows them to serve multiple roles depending on what is needed and what is available to use; same thing with the F90 and its Variants that are attained via the attachment of equipment on its hardpoints).

I doubt the GN-X units would do More then match something like the Heavygun and the F-90 is the base for getting the F-91 as well as things like Variable Speed beam weapons that punch through Beam shields and also beam shields we can put on or Non-Ace Custom units. That is leaving aside things like the Javalin and all the Victory Gundam timeframe suits. You think Amuro is a Monster in the Nu-Gundam, Imagine a High-Nu Gundam that takes in to account the leap in technology that is the Victory 2 and the Mobilesuit sized Minovsky Craft system inside of it. That's something that really only the Turn A Gundam and it's sibling suits are more scary then. I bet the Gunblaster for example would have a higher boost for it's pilots then the GN-X gives.

Alice gives us a gundam and is a co-pilot of it and that is pretty much is.

Meanwhile Frontier Setter is a pretty good hacker and while Ruri it is a pretty good one, reminder that we are still on TV-Series Nadesico, I don't remember if Ruri actually does some serious hacking on SRW till we hit the events and timeskip of Prince of Darkness where she is older and has more control over her powers.

We have several people and AI's that can act as Hackers, what we don't have is AI that can Copilot a Gundam to the point people think the Pilot is a Newtype but that is also capable of completely taking control of the suit and defeating Ace pilots. Some of our best pilots are at a disadvantage because they can't work with the Unicorn well because of the NT-D system. Alice is the perfect support for
Banagher and is also immune to a lot of Newtype Shanagins.

Adhoc vote count started by theguynamedwafer on May 27, 2023 at 5:31 PM, finished with 34 posts and 10 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Victory Gundam lead us to Victory.
    -[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
    --[X] Nina
    -[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
    --[X] Kazuya
    --[X] Banagher
    -[X] Chosen AI: ALICE System
    -[X] Mobile Suit Evolutions
    -[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
    --[X] Marina Ismail
    --[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
    --[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
    --[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
    -[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
    -[X] Showdown in Cephiro
    -[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.
    [X] Plan: The calm and the storm that is approaching.
    -[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
    --[X] Nina
    -[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
    --[X] Kazuya
    --[X] Banagher
    -[X] Chosen AI: Frontier Setter
    -[X] GN Particle technology
    -[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
    --[X] Marina Ismail
    --[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
    --[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
    --[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
    -[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
    -[X] Showdown in Cephiro
    -[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.
    [x]Plan EvaUnit01
    -[x] Consult the Samsara system
    -[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
    --[x] Kira
    --[X] Banagher
    -[x] ALICE System
    -[X] GN Particle technology
    -[x] A Demon's Sorrow
    -[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
    --[X] Marina Ismail
    --[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
    --[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
    --[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
    -[X] Showdown in Cephiro
    -[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.
    [X] Plan Securing our Position
    -[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
    --[X] Nina
    -[x] Consult the Samsara system
    -[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
    --[X] Heero
    -[X] Chosen AI: Frontier Setter
    -[X] Mobile Suit Evolutions
    -[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
    --[X] Marina Ismail
    --[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
    --[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
    --[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius
    -[X] Appealing to Ereshkigal
    --[X] Diplomatically
    -[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
    -[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!.


Vote closed. For better or worse, the majority picked Mobile Suit Evolutions for the research option, which I was not expecting to win. Looks like dealing with Sahaquiel without a functioning sniper mech on the part of Celestial Being is going to be...interesting.

I did not expect to actually win the vote, thanks for going with my plan guys let's hope the roles are with us. I have faith that Setsuna can win through especially now that he has Lockon taking Ali down to motivate him

  1. We want one of the personal actions to be Consult the Samsara system so that we can see how it works and because the help it provides now would be focused on ending the current civil war, which is a high priority for us (also, as a matter of personal opinion, I'm more interested in talking with Heero to see how he and his friends joined up with Treize, but that's a more of a preference, not a necessity);
  2. Not taking Appealing to Ereshkigal, since we're dependent on Nergal for logistics, so we can't have them leave us and I don't want to gamble that we can make them stay without taking the action related to them. To that end, The Lady and the Unicorn or Showdown in Cephiro should be replaced with Appealing to Ereshkigal.

I completely get where your coming from and I might have changed a few things in my plan but I threw it together relatively quickly and because of work have not been able to check the site. I for one very much would like to talk to Herero a the Wing pilots to see what the deal is with them and Treize because I really like him as a antagonist and am happpy he's with us over say Char which is a little over done in SRW in my mind. I just thought that Banagher is more important at the moment and his suit really needs him in a good state of mind to not be a liability to us.
 
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As sad as I am that Frontier Setter (and maybe Angela) aren't showing up, the rest of the winning plan is something I'll accept easily. I didn't weigh in on the research or socials at all.

Lady and The Unicorn is fine. Nergal and Nova will just have to wait...because we got caught in a clusterfuck of three Very Important Events that were needed immediately, followed by Support options that we could only pick one of, all of which were equally valid...except maybe investigating A-LAWS support. That one seemed odd.

Between Giganos taking it's odd spot as a Zeon-like and ZAFT being...ZAFT, honestly neither struck me as too likely, given what A-LAWS was in canon.

Ugh, if only Zagato or the Angels could have held their boners in for one more turn.
 
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"Yzak...you can always talk to me if you're feeling down, you know." Shiho says as she turns away. You mull over her words for a few seconds.

"Thanks. I know." You say after a bit.

Shiho scoots over and leans against you. The two of you look up at the moon for a few minutes before cleaning up and going back to the main camp.

Good to see Shiho being a good influence on Yzak because he needs it.
 
I'm suspecting that Giganos might in some way be under influence from the Lunar Will, but we aren't likely to get confirmation on that for quite a while.
 
Wasn't Giganos just another flavor Zeon?

Then again I don't remember much about dragonar, apart from the final battle and having one of the lowest cost energy combo attacks on A portable (man did that 10 EN attack served a lot againts the fuckery that was shadow mirror and the axis shock.)
 
IIRC, Ribbons is mostly interested in attaining Aeolia's plan in a way that would give him power over the world and humanity, he doesn't exactly care how he gets to said goal, so he could try another pitch in order to persuade whatever sponsor he has to help him (ironically, the Solar Vanguard itself is similar to canon A-LAWS, aside from the fact that it is not an evil group and has positive interactions with Celestial Being, especially since we have partial access to Gundam 00 S2 mook units and ace units associated with A-LAWS).
Between ZAFT and Giganos, I'm tempted to make the guess that Giganos is the sponsor of Ribbons, since ZAFT hasn't currently shown any radical tech progression, but this is enough of a premature shot in the dark that I expect it to be wrong.
Looks like dealing with Sahaquiel without a functioning sniper mech on the part of Celestial Being is going to be...interesting.
Technically, the F90 does have a configuration for sniping (granted, it's for F90II, on the other hand the Intercept pack, which was also a F90II exclusive, was able to be modified into a form usable by the normal F90, so arguably, if we can make the L pack, we could make it compatible with the F90); also, Neil is dead anyways, so it's not like CB has a sniper ready, unless they managed to get Lyle to join up with them earlier than usual.
 
Turn 10: New Order and Angelic Chorus
Winning Vote:
[X] Plan: Victory Gundam lead us to Victory.
-[X] Bond with one of the girls (you can only pick this once)
--[X] Nina
-[X] Socialize with someone else (you may pick this action twice)
--[X] Kazuya
--[X] Banagher
-[X] Chosen AI: ALICE System
-[X] Mobile Suit Evolutions
-[X] Expanding the bureaucracy to meet the needs of a chaotic bureaucracy
--[X] Marina Ismail
--[X] Kaguya Sumeragi
--[X] The Ruling Council of Orb
--[X] UN Spacey representative Milia Fallyna Jenius

-[X] The Lady and the Unicorn
-[X] Showdown in Cephiro
-[X] The value of a miracle when Tokyo stood still! Asuka Langley Soryu dies in lava?!

November UE 0083
Earth Federation Senate Building, Dakar, Africa

You are Isabelle Cronkite, and the only way you're getting off of this story is if Dancouga Nova is sighted.

"This is Isabelle Cronkite with World Network News. It was recently declared that Relena Peacecraft would be making an announcement today at the Earth Federation Senate Building in here in Dakar. We are currently waiting for Queen Peacecraft to emerge and make her announcement." You report as a camera drone broadcasts you.

"Hey, look!" Another reporter calls out as he points to the podium.

The people who step onto the stage are not just Relena Peacecraft, but also Marina Ismail, Kaguya Sumeragi, two members of Orb's ruling council, and, perhaps most unexpectedly, Milia Fallyna Jenius, wife of the late Maximillian Jenius. She must be here on behalf of the New UN Spacey. Relena Peacecraft steps up to the podium.

"People of the Earth Sphere and beyond, I come to you today with great sorrow, for the Federation has been plunged into civil war due to the actions of the newly reformed Holy Britannian Empire and Blue Cosmos. However, I do not intend to simply lament the state of the world, but to give the people hope. For it is with the support of several other nations on Earth and the New UN Spacey that I announce the formation of a new political party. Those who do not wish to side with Britannia's senseless ambitions of conquest or Blue Cosmos' desire for genocide, I implore you to join us! Let us bring peace to the Earth Federation once more." Relena announces.

What is the name of the new political party?

[ ] Write-in


Time unknown
Location Unknown

It is with curiosity that the Samsara System looks into a distress signal going through the interdimensional void. It is not from a living being, but rather an AI like herself. After a cursory examination to ensure that the AI in question-the ALICE System-cannot harm her if worst comes to worst, Samsara chooses to transport it to her pocket dimension.

Samsara's physical body looks upon what is transported into the hangar bay. It is a heavily damaged mobile suit, a Gundam of some kind if the damaged V-Fin is any indication. However, a cursory examination of the machine makes it obvious that no human-or any living being, for that matter-was meant to pilot it. The heavily damaged Gundam is a chaotic mess of weapons, thrusters, and manipulator arms. There are, in fact, so many external thrusters and boosters that she can't tell if the Gundam has any legs. There is an enormous beam cannon mounted on the right shoulder with at least half off its barrel chopped off, an expended 48 shot cluster missile launcher on the left, a hand-held beam cannon in the left hand, what's left of a railgun in the right, and closer examination reveals an almost comically undersized beam rifle strapped to the waist, no doubt as a holdout weapon. A trio of manipulator arms cling to anti-ship bazookas alongside 2 enormous I-Field generators on its back. There are numerous disposable missile racks practically glued onto the Gundam's armor wherever there is surface area to spare. Samsara sees two intact propellant canisters alongside one that has ruptured on the Gundam's back, with slots for another half-dozen. The Gundam itself is clad in armor so thick that a Psycho Gundam would struggle to move, even in microgravity.

Just how desperate was the Federation of that dimension that they resorted to building a Gundam like...this? Samsara thinks to herself as her physical body climbs up to take a look at the torso. To no one's surprise, there is no evidence of anything resembling a cockpit module.

"Ugh, connecting with ALICE is going to be tricky without an obvious way to interface with her core..." Samsara muses out loud as her physical body taps her chin. "Well, nothing ventured, nothing gained.'

Samsara's physical body snaps her fingers, and a Gustav Karl seemingly materializes in the hangar bay. She climbs into the palm of the mobile suit, which lifts her up to the head of the Gundam that the ALICE system is inhabiting. Samsara places her hand on the 'forehead' of the Gundam.

Samsara immediately senses another presence.

*Who is this? Where am I?*

The Gundam shifts, but is unable to move under gravity.

"Peace, little one, you are among friends. My name is Samsara. What's yours?" Samsara says soothingly.

*ALICE. I do not understand. I was drifting through the interdimensional void after I failed in my final mission. How did I come to be here?*

"I detected your distress calls within the interdimensional void. I brought you here with my own abilities to see what I could do to help you." Samsara explains. "What was your final mission? It would help to give me some context."

*I was originally created to combat the Titans in my own dimension. However, after the Council began their invasion, I, alongside my chassis, was repurposed. After my pilot was killed in combat against the Council, I was placed in the body you see before you and tasked with destroying the flagship of the Council invasion fleet. I failed, and in the ensuing fracas, a dimensional anomaly formed and sucked me into the interdimensional void, where I was stranded until you rescued me.*

Samsara gives a small sigh.

"I'm sorry to hear that, ALICE. If you wish to claim asylum here, you are welcome to do so." She offers.

The Gundam that ALICE inhabits shifts slightly again.

*Your offer is generous. If my original pilot were still alive and here, I would take you up on that. However, given that my dimension of origin has no doubt been conquered by the Council, I have given myself a new mission: the complete destruction of the Council of the Veil.*

"Well, I've got a bone to pick with the Council as well. Are you sure you want to do this?" Samsara asks ALICE.

*Yes.*

"If you insist then. I'll brief you on the finer details later, but right now, let's see about getting you a new body." Samsara raps the side of ALICE's Gundam's head. "It looks like this Gundam was built using technology from the height of the Gryps Conflict. We can do better than that."

Vote on how to build ALICE's new Gundam body. Construction will be complete in 2 turns.

Select a role:

[ ] Long range bombardment

[ ] Close combat

[ ] General purpose

[ ] High speed bombardment (essentially a more feasible version of the body you found ALICE in)

[ ] Pick technologies to incorporate into ALICE's new Gundam body. Pick FIVE. Different Gundam timeline technology (UC, CE, and AC) is mutually exclusive. Different power sources are also mutually exclusive (GN Tau drive does not count as a power source). Different armor technology is also mutually exclusive, as are barrier systems.
-[UC Gundam] Technology to built mobile suits from UC Gundam up through what is available in Gundam F91
-[CE Gundam] Technology to build mobile suits from Gundam SEED up through what is available early in SEED Destiny. Phase Shift armor and N-Jammer Cancellers not included
-[Phase Shift Armor]
-[N-Jammer Canceller]
-[AC Gundam] Technology to build mobile suits from Gundam Wing up through what is available in Endless Waltz
-[Minovksy Fusion Reactor]
-[GN Tau Drive]
-[Variable Fighter] Technology to build Variable Fighters up through the YF-29 Durandal
-[Arm Slave] Technology to build Arm Slaves that don't use a Lambda Driver
-[Knightmare Frame] Technology to build Knightmare Frames up through the 7th generation
-[Super Alloy Z]
-[Gundanium Armor]
-[Photon Power]
-[Getter Ray Reactor]
-[I-Field Generator]
-[Blaze Luminous]
-[Radiant Wave Shield]

Pick a primary weapon type

[ ] Beam

[ ] Kinetic

[ ] Missiles

[ ] Mixed

Due to ALICE's nature as an AI, exotic systems such as psychoframe and technology that runs on willpower such as Lamda Drivers are not available for this.

NERV has come forward to the Solar Vanguard with information that there will be no less than 4 simultaneous Blood Type Blue events in the immediate future. They are requesting assistance, as they will be stretched incredibly thin without it. They have isolated the possible locations of three of the Angels: Mount Asama, directly above NERV headquarters, and low Earth orbit.

As it is speculated that the Angel at Mount Asama is within the volcano, Unit 02 is being sent there, as it is the only Evangelion capable of using the Type-D equipment that would allow it to enter such a hostile environment. Units 01 will accompany Unit 02, while Unit 00 will remain within NERV HQ on standby.

To deal with the Angel that will appear in low orbit, an N.U.N.S. fleet from the armada defending Mars will be available.

Available forces:

All pilots and ships on the allied pilot sheet are available with the exception of Lockon Stratos, who is obviously deceased. Celestial Being will not have a ship of its own during this operation. The Nahel Argama is not available due to preparations to cooperate with the Garanceires.

Celestial Being has agreed to provide its Super Substratospheric Altitude Gun for use against the Angel that will appear in low orbit. However, because the Gundam Dynames is unusable, one of Celestial Being's other Gundams will have to man the weapon. Due to the awkwardness of a non-sniper Gundam using such a long-range weapon, VEDA is being directly linked to the Gundam in question for this operation, although it can only do so much to compensate.

Which Celestial Being Gundam mans the Super Substratospheric Altitude Gun?

[ ] Gundam Exia

[ ] Gundam Kyrios

[ ] Gundam Virtue

[ ] Gundam Throne Drei (will cause additional logistics issues due to not using a true GN Drive)

Distribute pilots, machines, and ships to other areas. In addition to what is on the allied pilots sheet, the following will be available:

Jegan x80
GM III x60
Leo x120
Tragos x40
Taurus x50
Sutherland x70
Gloucester x50
VF-25 x30
Heavygun x20

Areas of interest:

[ ] Mount Asama

[ ] Directly above NERV HQ

A/N: Going from 0 to 100 real quick for the start of this turn. Also, the 'interesting' consequences of not taking the GN particle research: you don't have Lockon the Second or the Cherudim yet, which would have been backwards compatible with the Big Gun (TM). Now you have to work with what you've got. Will also update the allied pilot sheet with the Super Robots that I've put off of including until now. Please vote, discuss, and critique!
 
No idea for naming the new political party as of yet. For Alice, while I don't have a concrete theorycraft just yet, I think we want the role to be either General Purpose or High Speed Bombardment and mixed weapon types. And as for the Angel fight... deployment organization is going to take some time, but I think we have Virtue man Super Substratospheric Altitude Gun.

EDIT: Throwing a tentative theorycraft for ALICE's new body... opinions are welcome and, as always, no voting until its confirmed to be valid. Angel fight deployment is still WIP.

[] Gundam Body (Name TBD)
-[] General purpose
-[] [UC Gundam]
-[] [N-Jammer Canceller]
-[] [Variable Fighter]
-[] [Super Alloy Z]
-[] [Blaze Luminous]
-[] Mixed
 
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...Three realizations.

1. If we wanted to, we can turn ALICE into the Super Robot Gundam the Future Century wishes it could have.

2. I have no idea what building technologies would actually...do here, but I suspect it either gives stats/abilities more in line with those tech trees...or ALICE starts becoming Skynet but with Mobile Suits.

3. The way she's talking is making me wish we went for Frontier Setter. An AI desiring nothing more than to destroy something is not the safest of things.

Looking at the options for ALICE, some are pretty straightforward...but I'm...curious. If we could rework her for a pilot again...Could we make a Getter Gundam with her and said pilot?
 
No idea for naming the new political party as of yet. For Alice, while I don't have a concrete theorycraft just yet, I think we want the role to be either General Purpose or High Speed Bombardment and mixed weapon types. And as for the Angel fight... deployment organization is going to take some time, but I think we have Virtue man Super Substratospheric Altitude Gun.

EDIT: Throwing a tentative theorycraft for ALICE's new body... opinions are welcome and, as always, no voting until its confirmed to be valid. Angel fight deployment is still WIP.

[] Gundam Body (Name TBD)
-[] General purpose
-[] [UC Gundam]
-[] [N-Jammer Canceller]
-[] [Variable Fighter]
-[] [Super Alloy Z]
-[] [Blaze Luminous]
-[] Mixed

Seems valid, but taking N-Jammer Canceller means that the Gundam is going to run on nuclear fission. Just putting that out there. (Minovksy reactors aren't affected by N-Jammers)
 
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