Mami probably can't break through. As OP as she is, I'm not aware of any flight ability she has, and without that she won't be able to reach the barrier.
Mami can weave her ribbons into a bridge. She uses it in Patricia's labyrinth because there's no floor in it. Also she's just really good at jumping, I think. Still, both run back into my earlier point that maybe it's too unsubtle to use around a busy cafe in broad daylight. Such is the price of awesomeness.

That does make me think of a somewhat related possibility though. Sayaka heard someone call Madoka and pretend to be her (and Madoka knows she warned her about Homura and Kyubey). This does not happen in a normal timeline. If they happen to talk about it in earshot of Homura, say at school, Homura might put 2 and 2 together and realize 'Oh shit, that witch followed me back', especially if Madoka elaborates on what she said.
The phone said to not trust Homura, and Sayaka is already inclined to not trust Homura, but the phone itself is sus. I think Sayaka will be torn between distrusting Homura and distrusting the phone, lol. On the other hand, Madoka is remarkably bad at distrusting the people around her, so there's nothing stopping her from just telling Homura everything in person.

And Kyubey, smoothly ignoring that the phone just said he was untrustworthy (plus everything going on in Ashtaroth's barrier), would be like "Well, that was weird. Anyway, if you make a contract with me you can figure out what that was about. :V"

Oh, and it's not just the witch Homura has to worry about. She did promise to "prevent this next time", so it's not like she's totally inconsiderate about Sayaka's wellbeing here. She assumed she wouldn't have to deal with the previous Sayaka after jumping timelines. But now that Sayaka is still here and still doomed, a living reminder of her failure. So that's going to inflame Homura's secret self-hatred.
 
On the other hand, Madoka is remarkably bad at distrusting the people around her, so there's nothing stopping her from just telling Homura everything in person.
"Mami says Kyubey is trustworthy and I trust her, so I trust him too, and it wouldn't be fair to trust him but not Homura, so I'm sorry mysterious phone person but I can't not trust either of them!"

Oh, and it's not just the witch Homura has to worry about. She did promise to "prevent this next time", so it's not like she's totally inconsiderate about Sayaka's wellbeing here. She assumed she wouldn't have to deal with the previous Sayaka after jumping timelines. But now that Sayaka is still here and still doomed, a living reminder of her failure. So that's going to inflame Homura's secret self-hatred.
And from Homura's perspective, the witch, and by extension Sayaka, is a danger to the current Sayaka, so Homura could murder her and unironically say its for her own good.
 
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And from Homura's perspective, the witch, and by extension Sayaka, is a danger to the current Sayaka, so Homura could murder her and unironically say its for her own good.

In addition, Madoka's kindness would mean that if she ever found out about Asharoth's backstory and Sayaka's and Tira's circumstances, she'd be tempted to help them by making a wish. Furthermore, if Homura spoke to the previous time loop Madoka, Madoka might've told her about the witch suggesting she make a contract to free Sayaka which would give Homura an incentive to finish off Asharoth in this loop before she could meet present Madoka and tempt her into making a contract
 
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[-] ...hear him out...?

Logically, Kyubey is far too great a threat to antagonize with it effectively being the boss of Mami, and it also could be a... accomplice?... helper? I'm not sure what word would describe it, but Kyubey could be willing to offer some assistance if it finds Ashtaroth interesting. Completely shutting it out does not do that. No matter how much you hate it, it is undeniably a useful boon, especially for somebody familiar with Kyubey's tricks.

Edit: Oh yeah. This isn't a vote. ^^;
 
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[x] Say nothing and do a zombie impersonation.
Ain't no intelligent witches here! Just a bunch of M.G. familiars impersonating the real thing...
A Kyubey strolls into the barrier (or maybe just materializes inside), finds two witches and two magical girls hanging out, and notices they are engaged in conversation
It isn't entirely unheard of for witches to mingle, and talking to themselves is almost manditory!
 
debating whether I should read this story a third time before the next entry is posted.
Go for it. You might catch some details you missed the first two times.

On an unrelated note, if we're still theorizing about time travel and cloning, I'd like to throw my hat into the ring. Given that Homura recovers from all her injuries and doesn't appear in the same place she reset from (to my knowledge), it's less likely she jumps through time and more likely that, in theme with her ability to stop time, she's winding time backwards and sending information back with it. This explains how Tira and Sayaka were brought back with us: they've been converted into information, which we now retain due to partially subsuming Homura.
 
And what about Homura's Soul Gem, then?
Homura would have noticed if she lost her Soul Gem, so she clearly still has it. We can't use Homura's magic (to our knowledge), but a part of her has been consumed. The Subsumed Puella Magi are functionally either Familiars or a part of Ashtarot, so Homura's Magic may consider us a part of her. If that's true, we might be immune to Time Stop.
 
Homura would have noticed if she lost her Soul Gem, so she clearly still has it. We can't use Homura's magic (to our knowledge), but a part of her has been consumed. The Subsumed Puella Magi are functionally either Familiars or a part of Ashtarot, so Homura's Magic may consider us a part of her. If that's true, we might be immune to Time Stop.
Random thought: I imagine it must be difficult to realize that you're on time stop if you've been lazily floating for hours with no obvious point of reference and with your attention focused to the inside of the barrier.
 
Homura would have noticed if she lost her Soul Gem, so she clearly still has it. We can't use Homura's magic (to our knowledge), but a part of her has been consumed. The Subsumed Puella Magi are functionally either Familiars or a part of Ashtarot, so Homura's Magic may consider us a part of her. If that's true, we might be immune to Time Stop.

What I meant to say: If Homura's wish sends information back, what does that mean for her Soul Gem, which also gets sent back?
 
What I meant to say: If Homura's wish sends information back, what does that mean for her Soul Gem, which also gets sent back?
For that we'd need to understand the nature of Soul Gems and Souls, and what a "soul" is changes from culture to culture. QB describes the Soul Gem as something akin to a collection of nerves if I remember correctly, but we already know how reliable he is especially with such imprecise language. The only theory I can think of for this off the top of my head is that the Soul is information, the culmination of a person's personality and self. That would make a Soul Gem just information made physical, and thus it would be sent back. Although at this point, there's basically no evidence aside from my own speculations. It could just be how Homura's reset works and I'm reading way too far into things.
 
Omake: It can be, and it is
I did it at last! Another emergency omake that was in the works for some time now. A somewhat of a sequel to "Could it be?"

It can be, and it is

The pink-haired girl was in her room, adding doodles to her book. She then stopped and checked the previous pages. Her smile widened a bit as she looked at one of her previous drawings, which depicted a simplified version of herself wearing a puffy pink dress with two bows attached at either side of her skirt. Alongside it, there were other drawings depicting the other two magical girls she knew about. It was fun, trying to imagine what she would wear if she made that contract as well. Although, the memories of the laughs that her senpai and her best friend made when she showed them those drawings still make her blush with embarrassment.

As she looked at them, she briefly remembered the words that were told to her the night before. About how she had the potential to become the most powerful magical girl that ever was.

Was that really true?

She shook her head, dismissing those thoughts. Of course not. How could such an ordinary girl like herself have that sort of potential? It must have been some kind of encouragement in case she decides to make a wish after all. Possibly.

She then remembered something.

Looking at the clock in her room, she realized that it was about time to go to the place she agreed with her best friend a few days ago. They were going to visit Kyousuke at the hospital today. At least Sayaka would.

<Good afternoon, Madoka.>

At the right side of her desk, the wish-granting being suddenly made it's presence known, seemingly appearing out of thin air. She would be creeped out by this, but she was already growing accustomed to such events. After all, she was now aware of the existence of actual magic. It didn't prevent her from jolting in place either way, though.

But she quickly recovered from the surprise. "Oh, good afternoon Kyubey. I didn't know you were coming! I'm sorry, but I don't have any snacks to give you right now." She said as she began to pet Kyubey's head while wearing a smile on her face.

<I should remind you that I do not require food to function.> Kyubey psychically replied, while moving its tail lazily. <Regardless, the reason of my arrival is to bring you important news.>

Madoka stared at Kyubey with confusion, while removing her hand from it's head.

"Important news? Did something happen, Kyubey?" she said as her gentle smile began turning into a somewhat nervous one.

And then, Kyubey replied.

<It appears that the girls known as Hitomi Shizuki and Sayaka Miki have been killed by a witch.>

…Madoka's world stopped for a moment. Her smile banished. Her heart sank.

…no…

"…W-what?" she said, incredulous.

…they can't be…

<Have I not made myself clear? I said->

"No! I-I hear it..." she answered, weakly.

They can't be dead. Her best friends can't be dead!

Her breathing began to increase its rhythm, her vision was starting to grow blurry with tears. She put her hands over her chest, her right arm grabbing strongly her left one in an attempt to calm herself down. She could feel her chest tighten with despair, but...but-

"B-but… it can't be!"

<It can be, and it is. It is the most likely conclusion.> Kyubey replied.

"B-b-but how?! How did that happen, Kyubey?!" She almost screamed.

<If you desire to know, should I start from the beginning?> Kyubey said calmly. It's tail still moving lazily.

"Y-yes, please." Madoka pleaded.

<Very well. Earlier in the day, I witnessed a witch's familiar abducting Hitomi Shizuki, and transporting her to the witch's barrier. Unfortunately, said barrier was in a constant state of movement, making it difficult to keep track of. Therefore, I had no choice but to locate the closest candidate to the site, who was Sayaka Miki.>

Madoka's eyes filled with confusion. "B-but what about Mami-san?" Surely she would have helped!

<Mami Tomoe was in a situation that would have prevented her to provide assistance in time.>

Knowing what witches could do to their victims, Madoka knew the kind of danger Hitomi was in. So it made sense that Kyubey had to act as quickly as possible. And that would mean that-

"Sayaka-chan made a contract, right?"

<Yes, she did.>

Madoka knew that Sayaka wanted to use her wish to heal Kyousuke-kun, that was something she was absolutely certain about the moment they were introduced to this world of magic. But she also knew that Sayaka was someone who would never turn her back on her friends. She must have wished for something to help both. It would explain why she didn't just wish Hitomi away from the witch.

<Fortunately, Sayaka Miki's wish had granted her the ability to detect Hitomi Shizuki's location with far more precision.> Kyubey continued. <Thanks to said ability, we were able to locate the witch's barrier. Sayaka Miki entered it. But no one came out.>

Madoka, in her distraught state, managed to notice something odd in that story. She perked up and said. "W-wait, you didn't enter the barrier?" Kyubey's declaration seemed to point to that.

<No, I did not. Shortly after arriving to the place, Sayaka Miki instructed me to remain outside so she could concentrate on killing the witch and rescuing her friend.> Kyubey answered. <This being her first witch hunt, she concluded that keeping me safe would prove to be a liability. I agreed and complied with her request.>

"B-but if you didn't enter the barrier, how can you be sure t-that Sayaka-chan and Hitomi-chan are d-d…" Madoka couldn't even utter the word.

Maybe he was wrong, maybe they weren't…

<Dead?> Kyubey answered calmly. <Simple. When a contract is made, I can detect said girl's magical signature. While she was in the barrier, Sayaka Miki's magical signature disappeared. Such an incident usually means that the contracted has perished. With her death, the fate of Hitomi Shizuki was easily deduced taking into account the amount of time that Sayaka Miki stayed in the barrier.>

Madoka tried to come up with some other explanation, but she couldn't think of anything else. With eyes full of tears and a pained heart, she could only accept the fact that her best friends have really died. Just like that.

It wasn't... it wasn't fair!

She wanted to scream, but she couldn't, her parents were home today and they would ask her about why she was crying, so she did the next best thing. She threw herself on her bed, face first, in an attempt to block the sound of her whimpers from being heard by the rest of her family. She stayed like that for a few minutes, crying softly into one of her plushies.

She then felt a pressure next to her. Looking up, she saw that Kyubey had jumped on her bed and was looking at her with those unblinking red eyes.

She never noticed how creepy that looked, didn't she?

Then, a thought passed through her mind.

"K-Kyubey." she said slowly, her voice was barely a whisper. "Does Mami-san know?"

<No. I haven't told her yet.>

"...why?" Madoka asked. She has the right to know, right?

<Mami is currently preparing her apartment for a private meeting. I believed that mentioning Sayaka Miki's fate would be detrimental for said event. I planned to inform her afterwards.>

A meeting? With who? No. That was not important. She understood Kyubey's logic; the mood was a key element in a meeting. But still…

"Gods… " Madoka said. "She is going to feel horrible…" Mami was such a kind and gentle person. The prospect of seeing her face after knowing that one of her students died filled her with dread. And then she remembered it was not only Mami. What about Sayaka's and Hitomi's parents? If their bodies weren't recovered from the barrier, they would look after them for days, even weeks. Just for them to give up and declare their deaths. Would they cremate empty coffins?

Before her mind went even further into more depressing thoughts, Kyubey approached her. <I should inform you that there is a way to lesser the impact of this event for everyone involved.>

Madoka was confused for a moment. And then she realized.

"D-do you mean…" Madoka lifted her head, still staring at Kyubey. Her eyes now filled with realization "My wish?"

<Of course.> Kyubey answered. <This seems like the perfect occasion to make one.>

"But resurrection? Isn't that too much? Is it even possible?" she questioned.

<Do you remember what I told you before? Your potential is far superior to any girl I have ever met before. Your potential is so great in fact; that I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, that no matter how big you want your wish to be, it will certainly become true.>

The room was silent then, and Madoka started thinking. The solution seemed so obvious, but a deep uneasiness lingered in her mind. Was she thinking about what would happen after making the wish? About what her potentially revived friends and Mami would think? Why was she feeling so unsure?
Were those chairs there before?
She was about to say something more, but another sound came first. Her cell phone was ringing.

Madoka lifted herself from the bed and approached the cell phone that was on her desk. She was about to turn off the call when she noticed the apparently impossible name of the contact on the screen, Hitomi-chan.

She picked up her cellphone, she was sure she had never moved her hand that fast before, and answered the call.

"H-hello?" Madoka said, her heart on her throat.

"Hello Madoka-san, i-it's me."

Madoka could recognize that voice anywhere. She barely contained the happiness that spread through her chest.

"Hitomi-chan! I'm so gl-. Ahhh, are you ok? Do you need anything?" Madoka almost forgot what Mami and Kyubey told them, about how people tend to not remember anything from their time in the barrier. Best to pretend for now. She began cleaning the tears from her eyes.

"I-I'm fine. It's just… just…"

Madoka didn't notice it at first, but now she could tell that Hitomi had been crying as well.

"Hitomi-chan?" Madoka said, with worry in her tone.

"Madoka-san… I need to speak to you, in person." Hitomi seemed to calm herself down a little.

"…that's alright, but why not from here?"

"Because it is really important, Madoka-san. And you being here will help."

"But why?"

"Because I know about the magical girls, the wishes, the witches, everything. I know you know." A pause "And something happened to Sayaka-san."

Madoka was surprised. She wasn't really expecting Hitomi to know. But that would mean… "...is she with you?"

"No, she is not." The feeling of uneasiness returned.

"But is Sayaka-chan alright?" Madoka said, nervous.

"I think so, yes. She is alive, at least. But please, I need to get this out of my chest, and you need to know."

If Madoka is known of something, it would be about her big heart. The desire to help her friend began to fill her with determination.

"It's ok. Are you in your house?"

"Yes."

"Then I'm going, just wait for me."

"I will. Take care, Madoka-san."

"You too, Hitomi-chan." And she ended the call. She could feel a little relief in her chest, but there was still something to do. And she was already prepared to go out.

<It seems I was too quick to draw conclusions.> the forgotten Kyubey said, as it followed Madoka out of her room. <The fact that Sayaka Miki's magical signature disappeared was enough reason to believe she had met her end. But it is possible that something abnormal has happened inside the witch's barrier.>

"Well, if magic and curses are real, miracles can happen as well!" Madoka said with resolution, while she finished cleaning the tears out of her face. She then said goodbye to her parents, exited her home and began a fast jog in the direction of Hitomi's home in record time.

"Kyubey. Can you try and search for Sayaka-chan?" Madoka mentally asked, as she glanced at Kyubey.

<With my connection with her severed, it will be difficult.>

Oh, she had forgotten about that.

<Besides, there is still a possibility of this just being a trap made by the witch.>

"Is that really possible?" Madoka said, reducing her speed slightly.

<But don't worry Madoka, I will be close by. If something were to happen, just call me and we will make the contract right away!> Kyubey said.

"Y-yes, right!" Madoka responded and, with a lingering fear in her mind and determination filling her eyes, she proceeded to quicken her pace. Her friends needed her help after all.
 
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Mmm...

... *ruminates*


.....care to change it, please? It doesn't matter if he was "mistaken", that was a pretty bad Kyubey-speak telling such an obvious untruth (even something as simple as "It appears that the girls known..." for misdirection)

It's ok, thanks for the feedback. I was taking into account what Kyubey knows. I mean, he doesn't know that what he is saying is untrue. I will change it later.
 
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"Gods… " Madoka said. "She is going to feel horrible…" Mami was such a kind and gentle person. The prospect of seeing her face after knowing that one of her students died filled her with dread. And then she remembered it was not only Mami. What about Sayaka's and Hitomi's parents? If their bodies weren't recovered, they would look after them for days, even weeks. Just for them to give up, declare their deaths and bury empty coffins…

Sayaka and Hitomi's parents wouldn't bury empty coffins; in Japan, the deceased are traditionally cremated.
 
Sayaka and Hitomi's parents wouldn't bury empty coffins; in Japan, the deceased are traditionally cremated.
Oh, I was not aware of that. I don't know if I should change that part really.

Edit: I'm gonna change that. I forgot that Mitahikara is tecnically in Japan when I was writting that part Lol.
 
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funny enough, I started rereading the story, and you posted that omake just as I got to the part of the story where it is most relevant.


Edit: So, I've just finished the second arc of the story and a thought occurs to me. In various ancillary media, it has been established that the various timelines still exist and continue after Homura resets. In the first timeline of this story, Madoka is still alive and hasn't contracted yet. When Homura resets, Kyuubey would ostensibly note that the labyrinth has disappeared and that he can no longer sense any of its occupants. He would undoubtedly use this to tempt Madoka into making a wish, and given her potential, anything she asks for would come true, meaning that if she were to wish for her friends' safe return, that would absolutely happen, and so we may have the first instance of a rejected timeline potentially interfering with a subsequent one, though the ramifications of doing so are mind-boggling.
 
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Omake: Subchumption (White Boy and the Seven Mary Sues X-over)
I'm actually doing this. I'm still not sure whether it was a good idea, but that didn't stop me from writing the other story this crossover is based on, nor will it in the future. So, yeah. My writing style is much less introspective/discussy than Flair's, but I hope I've managed to believably convey Ashtaroth's character voice, within reason.


Subchumption
(Subsumption / White Boy and the Seven Mary Sues)

* * * (Chump)
It was a day in Mitakihara, Japan. Not a normal day, because I was here, but a day. So there I was, walking, and wondering as I walked just how hungry I would have to be to turn myself in for entering the country without a passport via sketchy dimensional travel. The guy who had sent me here neglected to arrange for a work visa.

Hello. My fake name is Chump, and welcome to the wonderful world of a migrant Mary Sue hunter.

In case you haven't read my disjointed and incomplete memoirs, one way to summarize my situation is that a plainclothes JoJo OC tricked me into willingly traveling to the world of a depressing magical girl anime to get rid of a reality-warping Mary Sue. (By which I mean he channeled his probably very real desperation to get me to agree before he explained any of the details.) He was also apparently my dimensional counterpart, but whatever.

Anyway, I had been in the world of Japanime for about a day now, and I was hungry. Not dehydrated, because Japan has public water fountains, thank God, but hungry.

Annnnnnnd I had an idea. A horrible, terrible, awful idea, which I had come to quite logically.

Premise one: Insects are an excellent source of protein.

Premise two: Larger animals contain higher quantities of edible substance.

Conclusion from premises: Giant insects are an excellent source of large quantities of protein.

Did I know where to find giant insects? Yes, I had not a day ago stumbled into the lair of an eldritch despair monster made of a child's broken dreams, populated extensively by pony-sized beetles. My response had been to run away, because I had only just received my Stand and had no idea what its ability was.

I'd since figured that out. However, unfortunately, the ability to cling to solid surfaces in defiance of gravity was not useful against beetles, because I lacked the offensive options of lizards and spiders. Gravity Hurts took the form of a tree stump, and so could not punch things, but I could use it as a footrest while stroking my beard to look extra philosophical.

Yeah, not great in a fight.

But was I going to hunt giant beetles anyway? Yes. My only other option was begging, so yes.

I vaguely remembered where the entrance to the pocket dimension Labyrinth was—it had been where I first landed, after all. But I would need to pace myself while walking so I would have enough stamina left to slaughter and eat, as the Lord commanded Peter.

I hoped that eldritch despair bugs didn't have parasites.

* * * (Ash)​

You are an autoprosopagnosiac origami despair cloud with a human soul (you're not even sure how you know that word), and you wonder what kind of trauma led this Witch's barrier to take the form of a bug catcher's nightmare. Saar's Tearful Storm has been invaluable against the hordes of insects pouring out into your side from hers, but the fact that her territory is built like an anthill prevents you from actually going in yourself: the tunnels are just barely tall enough to accommodate Sayaka and Tira as they go on the offensive, let alone your towering stalk and Tome's enormous cover.

So far the bugs have been easy enough to kill, but forcing a way through the passages is going to be difficult, since the dead familiars are blocking the tunnels instead of disintegrating.

You sigh mentally. You had picked up this Witch's barrier almost by accident while moving away from where you had nearly encountered this timeline's Mami Tomoe, and while a new subsumption sounds very appealing after what happened with Homura, you're still too close to Mitakihara to give this fight your full attention.

No, at least half your attention is focused on the outside of the barrier, keeping watch for any magical girls and starting to tug upwards to retreat back toward the relative safety of the open sky. Of course, more than half is still less than full, which is why you aren't very high yet and—why is there a tree stump on the side of that building? And someone is standing on it?

And now the stump is gone, and he's in your barrier, somehow.

What?

You quickly think a message to Sayaka and Tira. <Uh, girls, we have a…to tell the truth, I'm not sure.>

Sayaka's mental voice sounds annoyed. <What, Ash? Just spit it out!>

<We apparently have an American tourist in the barrier now? I swear, I don't know how he got in, I didn't do it.>

You're watching, not-watching through her eyes, so you notice her pause for a split second between sword strikes. <Ash, I swear, if you've accidentally kidnapped someone again…> She viciously decapitates a dung beetle, then stabs an exploding blade into its dirt ball and leaps back as the blast clears the tunnel blockage.

<You did say 'he', correct?> Tira interjects, faring slightly better due to her ink's acidic properties. <You're sure it's not a disguised magical girl?>

<One, I saw the beard, two…>
You trail off. Are you sure? The sensation of your barrier tearing open was exactly the same just now as when a magical girl opens it with her Soul Gem. But what kind of magical girl would cosplay as an adult male to hunt a Witch? <…never mind,> you finish.

<Never mind what?> demands Sayaka.

<I'm taking us up!> you respond. <We'll deal with it when we get to it!>

Neither girl responds, too busy slicing up familiars. You hope this won't end badly. It's a miracle you didn't pick up any actual magical girls, if your concentration slipped that much.

* * * (Chump)​

I was in. The Witch's Labyrinth was moving around, so I had to climb a wall to get high enough, but my Stand is an effective climbing assist, if little else.

I'd only caught a glimpse of the sigil before forcing my way in. It definitely wasn't the same as last time, but the Labyrinth interior was just what I remembered: dirt tunnels. Although, unlike last time, I half expected to be swarmed on arrival. Thankfully, that wasn't the case. I just had to hope I was lucky enough to get a one-on-one.

Did giant crystallized-despair insects locomote with internal fluids, or some analogue to muscle tissue? I would soon find out.

I paused, my hand trailing along the dirt wall. It was almost completely dark, but I could still see slight outlines, despite a visible light source. That wasn't new, since I'd been here before. However…that sigil being different. It didn't add up. And because I hadn't been jumped by bugs yet, the thought refused to go away.

I sighed. I really would have to check again before going in, wouldn't I?

I tromped a few steps back to where the tunnel cut off and focused on my Stand. For whatever reason, Stands could apparently open Witch Labyrinths like a magical girl's Soul Gem, although they did lack the dowsing function. Gravity Hurts rose through the dirt, perfectly visible even in the low light, and I stomped on the stump's flat-cut face.

The sigil bloomed before me, and with time to look at it, I realized that, no, it absolutely was not the neon-blood-red beetle I should have seen, if this were the same Labyrinth. Except…the beetle was still there, kind of. It seemed to have been integrated into a surprisingly seamless hodgepodge of several sigils of various colors and shapes, although what the others represented was rather indistinguishable.

Ominous. Also reminded me of the stereotypical Mary Sue prevalence for rainbow hodgepodges—and wasn't that a scary thought. I was already racking my brain for strategies to neutralize Tomoko. Another Sue, and one I couldn't communicate with at that—

…well, hold on. I'd have to verify before I panicked. I reached down my shirt and pulled out my dipstick to check the Sueometer reading.

Green. False alarm. Thank God.

I put the dipstick away. So not a Sue, just an overdeveloped Witch, or something. Could Witches eat each other and absorb their powers? Nothing in the show suggested that, but this being technically an AU, I wouldn't rule it out. Walpurgisnacht was supposed to be a composite as well, right?

I shuddered. None of these thoughts boded well for me and my infiltration attempt.

But dang it, I was hungry, and the only thing I'd eaten in the last 24 hours was a scorched chocolate-covered raisin from the remains of a construction paper lizard. It had been a highly disappointing experience.

Man, I wish I had my practice katana, I thought. Then I could at least bludgeon something with better results than my bare hands.

* * * (Ash)​

Okay, you've reached what should be a safe height, so you turn your attention back to your barrier's new anthill section. Tira and Sayaka are somewhere deep inside, and so far they haven't asked for help. The urge to actively eavesdrop is there, but they've complained about it often enough that you decide not to. Now, about that intruder…

…you have no clue, to be honest. You felt a slight tugging, like the portal was about to reopen, but it didn't, so the person must still be in there. And he, assuming it's not a really creepy girl in disguise, came in on the anthill side. Which means that you'll have to talk to your barrier-mates anyway, since you still can't reach inside. You did try floating over, but there's no way into the ugly dirt pile except those tiny tunnels even Shemesh couldn't have fit in.

There are still some of the giant beetles spilling out of the hill and indiscriminately attacking things (that's why Sayaka and Tira went in to begin with), but some of the Du Polignac have actually taken over beating them off, so…there's not really anything for you to do.

It's vexing.

<Uh, you guys? The…person who came in is somewhere inside there where I can't reach. Could you investigate that?>

Sayaka rolls her eyes, but says, <Sure.> Tira follows suit with less sass.

The two magical girls soon reach a central space that all the tunnels seem to lead to, which must be the core of the barrier. Overall, this Witch's barrier is relatively small compared to most others you've encountered, especially Charlotte's, but you're almost relieved that there isn't a gigantic bug spawning pit akin to that one chasm/room full of Pyotr. Instead, through two sets of eyes, you are treated to the sight of a few flying beetles buzzing about—thankfully, no cockroaches—accompanied by a large contingent of what appear to be free-floating bug nets with absurdly long handles, whirling every which way and flopping down on anything that moves, including both the bugs and each other. No wonder all the bugs were trying to get out.

The Witch—or what you assume is the Witch—is hanging from the ceiling in what looks like a butterfly cocoon. What was the word, larva? Pupa? In any case, currently inert.

Compared to the bugs outside, though, the ones flying or crawling around in here seem much less frenetic, only really moving when a net swishes past them. The nets do occasionally catch something, and when they do, they float upwards near the Witch, maybe as if to show her, but the beetles always escape before the nets can reach her. It's kind of sad. But then, so is every Witch barrier. It might as well be by design, for all that Kyubey says he can't predict what individual magical girls or Witches will look like.

Just as you finish taking everything in, the mysterious stranger peers out from one of the tunnels opposite. Shorts, brown hair, beard like a bush, this is definitely the person you saw. Somehow, even the tree stump is next to him, also poking out of the tunnel. He has a bit of a wild look in his eyes.

You belatedly realize you just took over Sayaka's and Tira's eyes to look around at everything and let go, not missing their respective shudder and flinch.

In the same moment, a stag beetle crawls past the crazy guy, who splatters it with a mud ball and yells something defiantly. When the beetle turns on him and charges, he grabs it by the horns, struggling at first, stumbling back at its apparently superior strength and weight, then draws it into the tunnel after him.

Tira is the first to react. "Sayaka! You're faster and can fight with less chance of collateral damage. I'll cover you!"

Sayaka shakes herself out of shock and leaps forward, bouncing off angled music note platforms to maintain speed and precision. Within seconds, she reaches the tunnel and stabs a single sword into the beetle's shell. It screeches and tries to beat its wings, but one is pinned by the blade, so it only smacks the narrow tunnel wall. The crazy guy jumps up, lands both feet on one of the horns, and pushes against the other with his whole body, snapping it off with a jarring crack. He then stabs it in the eye with a knifehand, to considerably less success. Sayaka vaults onto the back of its shell with two swords in reverse grip and stabs one into its head and the other where the shell splits. It dies, and Sayaka hops off.

The guy picks up the broken horn and shoves it into the beetle's mouth, roots around, and draws it back out, covered with what might have been ganglia.

Sayaka's face twists in disgust, and you really wish you could stop looking.

As if it were the natural course of action, the guy sniffs the mushy mess, shrugs, and takes a bite. He chews, swallows. He shrugs. "Tastes all right. A little gristly, though. Probably better cooked."

In response, Sayaka bends over and dry heaves. Tira, having peeked in, quickly turns away in what is probably horror.

Thanks to this man, despite being a crystallization of Grief with no esophagus, you now have the inescapable phantom sensation of trying to puke your guts out.

This is not ideal.
 
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So I'm up to the last couple of entries on this story and just finished the chapter where Ashtaroth was experimenting with her abilities while Sayaka and Tira explored the labyrinth, and there's something I find intriguing. When she subsumed Mami's body, she got nothing from it because it was "empty" and did not contain a soul. When she tried to bring Saar back out, it felt like she should be able to do so, but some fundamental piece was missing that would have been necessary. Given their origins, it can be argued that a witch is a soul without a body. Bearing that in mind, if Ashtaroth were to subsume Candeloro, would that combine her with the body that she already subsumed and result in an entry in Novella for both Puella Magi and Witch? would the two recombine back into Mami? would she be her old self, or would it basically just be Candeloro inhabiting Mami's body, resulting in her having more feral/childlike behavior?
 
Some VERY late responses below. Sorry about the delay on both these and the next chapter; I wanted to get around to the former a lot sooner after those omakes dropped, but I caught COVID a couple weeks ago, which made writing or replying to comments very difficult to even attempt to focus on. But I'm mostly better now (I think), so!



Hmmmm. I don't think anyone has ever explored just how Kyubee does what he does, I'd like to see his processing facilities.

I'm not sure Kyubey has "processing facilities" in the sense you're thinking. It depends on just how he goes about "re-adding" the free energy generated by the emotional swings of magical girls to the universe, I suppose. Kyubey's species is so advanced in ways we know little about, that it's entirely likely there's no physical "location" involved in anything he does.

Another thing to note also is that as a magical girl grows older her magic potential decreases. An example being Mifuyu from Magia Record who's been a magical girl for seven years since she contracted at age twelve and noticed that her magic was growing weaker with her barely keeping up her transformation at times. This would be handicap towards MGs surviving for long periods of time as that would mean despite the experience they gain from fighting witches and even if they lived in an area where grief seeds weren't an issue, eventually at some point they're magic would be insufficient to protect them from witches or other girls resulting in them either dying or witching out from corruption. It's rather telling that along the 100+ characters from the PMMM franchise, only a small handful lived beyond their 20s (Isabeau, Pernelle, the girl who became Roberta, Mikoto Tsubaki) all of whom are dead by the present day. The only character who could be said to be a fully grown adult is Livia who's implied to be decades old and she could be considered an exception due to her position of a Coordinator allowing her to obtain grief seeds without fighting by adjusting soul gem in exchange for seeds

Fair point, forgot to mention that aspect. So yes, even if you overcome all the immediate hurdles and your wish works out perfectly, survival becomes inherently harder over time. It's the proverbial "system in which you cannot win".

Hm. Would Knight Sense work on the other Sayaka? Or, to put it another way, is Sayaka Sayaka-friendly? (I would hope so!)

Good question, and one that will likely inevitably be answered later down the line, either through its presence, or its lack thereof.

Ah, so it's an uneasy truce based on keeping magic secret from the general public? Or at least that's what it looks like from up here. But it can only last until either Ashtaroth attacks in the area or Mami finds a more convenient spot to transform and engage, right?

If Ashtaroth gets far enough away that Mami loses the trail, she likely won't be capable of pursuing. Of course, Ashtaroth didn't really know magical tracking was even a thing as a magical girl, and just roughly guessing at that sort of thing may be ill-advised...

Damn, that is really good sight, and Ashtaroth doesn't even have eyeballs in her own head. I'm jealous!

One might even conclude that's why it's so good. :rolleyes:

If Hirako didn't move it, then obviously it's in the barrier somewhere. It's not as if the corpse just got up and walked away from the murder scene to make way for Ashtaroth's rebirth.

Why not? According to Sayaka from the last arc, Kyubey produces walking corpses all the time!

Interesting detail. I can imagine a few ways that could have gone down, but it was likely a more unpleasant revelation than if it had come directly from Kyubey. The only thing that could make this substantially worse is if she contracted before the witchbomb, and actually that seems likely because I have no clue what could have compelled Ashtaroth to contract (via Kyubey) after the witchbomb (which, it bears repeating, didn't come from Kyubey).

We don't have an good timeline of when the witchbomb happened, but it's possible that Kyubey ditched Ashtaroth just after it because he realized he was too sus, and having experienced this exact problem numerous times before, he saw the warning signs and just didn't want to risk a magical girl's wrath this time. This is pure speculation, mind you, and maybe the limit of what I can speculate with what I remember about both characters. This topic seems important because backstory, so I'll just make a note of it and maybe come back to it later...

Can't really comment too much on this, but here's a brief collection of what Ashtaroth has noted about Kyubey in earlier parts of the story, just as a reminder:

Your lifting mood immediately dampens. Right, because Kyubey has been so good about talking to you as of late. That little alien jackass is at least half the reason you're like this now, even ignoring the rather direct hand he had in the matter by making you a magical girl to begin with. You somehow doubt he'd help even if you could find him, especially now that you're a witch.
The depressing line of thought brings to mind how you'd initially reacted to finding out magic was real, in the earliest days of what little episodic memory you still retain. You were so happy to have been let in on the world's biggest secret; so excited to learn of fantasy's existence in reality. You'd still been cautious, wary of the other shoe dropping, since you'd known from the start that what was on offer was likely far too good to be true... but nothing could have prepared you for the sheer size of that shoe. This "system" turned out to have more awful aspects to it than you could even list, and with Kyubey's silent refusal to explain why his species created it, you can't even justify its existence at this point.
While you no longer trust the little rat much further than you can throw him (which is now nowhere, seeing as how that would be difficult without ARMS), you don't recall him ever actually lying to you outright, so you don't doubt the information he gave you was at least technically correct.

I feel a few assumptions can be made from these bits alone, but that might just be because I'm the author. Rest assured, you'll be getting more detail on how things went down eventually — you know, once Sayaka and Tira reach sufficient affection levels to unlock all the details of Ashtaroth's Tragic Backstory.

Beeg oof. Being Sayaka is suffering, and this particular continuity really gave her the shortest end of the stick so far. To recap:
  • She sucks in battle. Mostly it's just recklessness and inexperience, so she can improve, but that's cold comfort because she already risked life and limb only to lose... multiple times.
  • Her purpose as a magical girl is unclear, and her reasons for becoming one in the first place are voided. A fish out of water.
  • She is trapped and has little control over her life, helplessly dragged around from place to place.
  • And most recently, she no longer has a place to return to, because someone else is now living the life that was always hers.
  • Am I missing something? I think I covered everything.
I suppose her best bet now is to help the next Sayaka learn from the past/future and do better in her place.

It's enough to make a girl just want to stop even trying. A witch in the making if ever there was one... well, assuming that's still even possible for her, which it's not looking like right now. And thank goodness for that, right? :)

Anyway, if Homura's hostility is the problem here, why not give Homura a long-distance call, where she can't attack? Just use the previous timeline as blackmail, threaten to tell Madoka and Mami and Hitomi and Kyousuke (also with phone call) that Homura once made Sayaka very distressed in an alternate future and they'll just have to take Ashtaroth's word for it that this really happened. I'm sure that would work like a charm, convincing Homura to undo everything. Phones are such a convenient technology for witches to have! :V

Who in this group has Homura's phone number, exactly? Do we even know she has a phone? It's not like she has anyone to call... :???:

A Kyubey strolls into the barrier (or maybe just materializes inside), finds two witches and two magical girls hanging out, and notices they are engaged in conversation... for how long?! How long did he just sit there listening? How long did Ashy take to notice she wasn't just talking to herself? How much Kyubey could have learned just now depends largely on this, so it'd be really unnerving if he was actually here the whole chapter! 😱

Given the portal to the barrier's outer layer didn't open, probably safe to say he just directly materialized himself within the Canvas. As for how long he's been there... well, perhaps he'll say, if given the chance?

Ah, I think I know what makes this cool visual so unsettling. It's not just the peekaboo entrance. It's the stealth. In addition to being visually indistinct on a pure white background, Kyubey seems to be too subtle to ping to magical sense the way a magical girl or witch might. I think you are making some kind of comparison here, between the blank Canvas and the pit of Kyubey's soul.

Not a bad short analysis... and I appreciate the time you undoubtedly spent on this meme edit. XD

Well, communication established I guess! That's a step forward, probably. Definitely a step up from the silent treatment, right?

Is it really though? At this present moment, I wouldn't be so sure of that...

I can't know this for certain, but the fact that he decided to show up now of all times could imply Kyubey doesn't expect Mami to break through in time to interrupt the talking, at least not where Ashtaroth is now. Either way, I do think he is at least genuine in his implicit offer to chat and learn through conversation here.

Kyubey is open and genuine in most things he says and does — it's what he doesn't say that's usually the problem.

Ashtaroth would do a poor job of marketing her curse to a magical girl like Mami. Good thing she has Shemesh Tira to do that in her place, with solid selling points like "Grief seeds are unnecessary and I am among friends; I'm genuinely more at peace now. You too can have this salvation at the low low price of !"

Or, you know, Ashtaroth could just gobble up Mami when she is at her weakest. It's not the most diplomatic option and would be more problematic for the magical girl in question, but it worked well enough the first two times and ultimately it's for her own good anyway. What could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:

<...everything?>

Y'know, the more I think about this, the sillier I find it. Because it's... the entire situation up to now is just, like: "I was reincarnated as a time-looped allegorical monster but with my cumulative victims and a futuristic flip phone!" The phone itself is uninteresting, but you've drawn attention to its possibly anachronistic design and made it just barely important enough as a plot device that it could fit in an uniquely dumb light novel title, and that just tickles my funny bone.

Hey, I've said nothing to specifically confirm that Tira's phone is a flip phone — I just very heavily implied it, Kyubey style. ^_^; Though I honestly can't even imagine how Subsumption would work as a light novel, given how relatively dense my writing style can be. I should maybe work on that. When it's not fitting/intentional, at least.

I bet it's a surprisingly common occurrence for witches that just muck around (witch kiss, leaving the front door open to passersby, etc.), to the point that witch/familiar interference is a not-unlikely first introduction to magical girl life.

I imagine, besides Kyubey showing up to speak with potential magical girls himself, that is in fact the most common introduction to magic om exostemce. One might even hypothesize Kyubey deliberately doesn't show himself to some girls with potential until they get into some kind of mortal peril, be that witch-related or otherwise, so that they're all but forced to make a wish in that moment... or perhaps he simply has excellent timing. Who's to say?

Also, the halos are his brains (I forget where I learned this, but it might have been Magia Record.), but if he shares info with his other selves anyway then it shouldn't really matter which one has which memories to begin with.

Huh... I don't remember that, but I didn't really keep up with the translations of Magia Record's second arc, and don't exactly remember all the side stories perfectly, so maybe I just forgot. I'll have to look into that.

Kyubey didn't bother showing up this close in the previous timeline and Ashtaroth hasn't yet eaten anyone Kyubey was previously aware of in this timeline, so it's possible that the whole time travel stuff made things confusing enough to warrant a visit without explaining enough about Ashtaroth's capabilities to seriously concern him.

Alternatively, if more disappointingly, maybe the time travel and the phone call have little to do with it and he wasn't specifically trying to confirm how weird things were getting. Maybe scouting out barriers when an unknown witch is sus... is just a thing Kyubey does sometimes? It makes perfect sense in the interest of finding imperiled humans to contract or alerting magical girls to nearby phenomena, and in any case it couldn't hurt to know in advance how the witch behaves even if he can't understand or care why.

Well, we know Kyubey can't just inherently detect that an entity has time travelled, as he had no idea what or who Homura was for quite a while in canon, but if he was present during that phone call, let alone this conversation... well, he likely has a few working hypotheses right now, at the very least. :whistle:


Hey! You leave FlairBap on the Dexworks Discord where it belongs! :anger:

Shemesh sticks to Ashtaroth like a butler. He's too loyal to break away and do his own thing independently, right?

Meanwhile, I get the feeling the Ummashtart might have grown bored and wandered off in search of more interesting labyrinths, if not for the fact that Ashtaroth subsumes new biomes frequently.

Familiars are more complex than they sometimes appear, is all I'll say to this.

I'm on team let it monologue, if purely because I want to know what the furry bastard will say.

He's not furry, he's smooth! Like a shark in cat's clothing~ :V

[-] ...hear him out...?

Logically, Kyubey is far too great a threat to antagonize with it effectively being the boss of Mami, and it also could be a... accomplice?... helper? I'm not sure what word would describe it, but Kyubey could be willing to offer some assistance if it finds Ashtaroth interesting. Completely shutting it out does not do that. No matter how much you hate it, it is undeniably a useful boon, especially for somebody familiar with Kyubey's tricks.

...well, some of Kyubey's tricks. Ashtaroth probably knows more about Kyubey than the average magical girl, but she's by no means an expert in everything he does/is/can do.

I got something we should ask the bunnydevil:

[X] How are you even on this telepathic channel?
-[X] Because we've spent almost an hour trying to contact others outside this group with telepathy and had no luck.

<...and does that mean we've been linked back to the main network? Because that would be really damn convenient, actually.>

Sayaka heard someone call Madoka and pretend to be her (and Madoka knows she warned her about Homura and Kyubey). This does not happen in a normal timeline. If they happen to talk about it in earshot of Homura, say at school, Homura might put 2 and 2 together and realize 'Oh shit, that witch followed me back', especially if Madoka elaborates on what she said.
The phone said to not trust Homura, and Sayaka is already inclined to not trust Homura, but the phone itself is sus. I think Sayaka will be torn between distrusting Homura and distrusting the phone, lol. On the other hand, Madoka is remarkably bad at distrusting the people around her, so there's nothing stopping her from just telling Homura everything in person.

Unless Homura is trying to be friendly this timeline — unlikely, given she's tried that before and seemingly given up on it by this point — I can't imagine Madoka and Sayaka would talk about it "in earshot" of her. Normal telepathy isn't global from what canon shows, so it's not like Homura can just listen in on their private call, and while Madoka is indeed trusting, she doesn't exactly volunteer information to Homura in canon, so unless Homura decided to outright interrogate her, it's not likely that she'd learn about all this through such means.

Oh, and it's not just the witch Homura has to worry about. She did promise to "prevent this next time", so it's not like she's totally inconsiderate about Sayaka's wellbeing here. She assumed she wouldn't have to deal with the previous Sayaka after jumping timelines. But now that Sayaka is still here and still doomed, a living reminder of her failure. So that's going to inflame Homura's secret self-hatred.

She's been doing this so long that the past is now literally coming back to haunt her. A horrifying prospect if ever there was one. :eek:

So, I've just finished the second arc of the story and a thought occurs to me. In various ancillary media, it has been established that the various timelines still exist and continue after Homura resets. In the first timeline of this story, Madoka is still alive and hasn't contracted yet. When Homura resets, Kyuubey would ostensibly note that the labyrinth has disappeared and that he can no longer sense any of its occupants. He would undoubtedly use this to tempt Madoka into making a wish, and given her potential, anything she asks for would come true, meaning that if she were to wish for her friends' safe return, that would absolutely happen, and so we may have the first instance of a rejected timeline potentially interfering with a subsequent one, though the ramifications of doing so are mind-boggling.

I think Ashtaroth herself likely counts as the first instance of that, actually. ;) Though that is an intriguing question to ponder...

In addition, Madoka's kindness would mean that if she ever found out about Asharoth's backstory and Sayaka's and Tira's circumstances, she'd be tempted to help them by making a wish. Furthermore, if Homura spoke to the previous time loop Madoka, Madoka might've told her about the witch suggesting she make a contract to free Sayaka which would give Homura an incentive to finish off Asharoth in this loop before she could meet present Madoka and tempt her into making a contract

Which would be great news for Ashtaroth!... assuming she would be willing to risk going near Mami to explain those circumstances.


What? No, who told you that? I'm like Kyubey! No secret plans here~ /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

[x] Say nothing and do a zombie impersonation.
Ain't no intelligent witches here! Just a bunch of M.G. familiars impersonating the real thing...

I think it might be a tad too late to attempt that. ^^;

Homura would have noticed if she lost her Soul Gem, so she clearly still has it. We can't use Homura's magic (to our knowledge), but a part of her has been consumed. The Subsumed Puella Magi are functionally either Familiars or a part of Ashtarot, so Homura's Magic may consider us a part of her. If that's true, we might be immune to Time Stop.
Random thought: I imagine it must be difficult to realize that you're on time stop if you've been lazily floating for hours with no obvious point of reference and with your attention focused to the inside of the barrier.

Ashtaroth has what amounts to four separate sets of vision now, but still only has so much attention/focus to spread around, so yes, I imagine she could potentially have been distracted enough by everything going on in the barrier to have not noticed instances of everything suddenly freezing on the way to Kazamino. Assuming that any such instances of time stop occurred during that time, and that this theory is correct to begin with, at least.

It can be, and it is

Very nice! I quite liked the inside look at what Madoka's side of things might have looked like at that point in time, especially as Hitomi likely did interrupt something akin to this exact event. Kyubey sounds a bit stilted, but that's probably my fault if you based him on this story's version of him — for some reason, I completely nixed contractions from his speech early on, which doesn't make him seem quite disarming enough, I don't think. Regardless, well done, and thank you! :D

Subchumption
(Subsumption / White Boy and the Seven Mary Sues)

It is always a lovely surprise to get an omake, much less two. Threadmarked as well! The fact that you decided your only recourse upon finding yourself stranded in Japan without food was to go kill and eat giant magic despair bugs is... questionable, but certainly led to an amusing situation. Ashtaroth's barrier getting invaded by what amounts to an ant infestation is also quite funny as a concept, and you write her fairly well — that was an amusing last couple lines in particular. Thank you! q(≧▽≦q)
 
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