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...which isn't really as good an outcome as you might initially imagine it to be.
Don't care. Cutie~! 🥰
...which isn't really as good an outcome as you might initially imagine it to be.
Hey now, just because there's precedent doesn't mean Mami will immediately jump to the worst-case scenario!
...not that it necessarily means she won't, either. I just like being pedantic sometimes.
Magia Record's version of Sayaka seems to have gotten very good with personal healing magic
best case scenario in such an event would likely be something like this...
To be fair, Kyubey usually isn't very upfront about where he comes from or why he does anything. He needs to collect grief seeds and have magical girls fight witches, ostensibly to keep despair from getting out of hand, but he never claims to be motivated by altruism and nobody really questions it at first. And he is not very picky about who becomes a magical girl; he has no special reason for offering contracts to anyone in particular, beyond "you have the potential"
Okay, honestly, you're right. I have no clue. Mami's disposition was decidedly unhelpful last time, but the circumstances are now different. I'm just taking it for granted that something will go wrong soon, but I don't know how wrong or who will be responsible (besides Homura and Ashtaroth, in the broader sense that they are responsible for literally all of this). But again, the first response to witches is to go for the kill and ask questions later, so already this is a terrible start as usual.
Honestly, that makes sense with everything I know about her. Of course, that requires subsuming her, which sounds... dangerous and her acting like a cultist probably would set off everyone's creepiness alarms.You know, Mami would totally be into being Susbsumed, after the fact.
Mami's wish was to be connected to life, and her deepest dream is to have a permanent companion to share her own life with, to such a degree that she would never feel the crushing despair of loneliness ever again.
Being subsumed, Mami would quickly realize that her deepest wish of being connected to life is fulfilled, on a level she never thought possible.
Yes, she's now de-facto a witch's familiar and thus become the very thing she sought to destroy, and is now forever(until we get relays) separated from her fellow countrymen, but her every waking and sleeping moment is redefined with the ability to -ping!- Ashtaroth's existence in her head and soul whenever her loneliness psychosis kicks in. And that's not even mentioning Ashtaroth's own nosiness and tendency to butt-in with random opinions.
I predict it will get to the point that Mami will end up being even creepiest-er-ly than Ashtaroth is about their linked soul data stream.
Ashtaroth will very quickly discover her title being rewritten toAshtaroth .
Edit: if the loops continue, the instant we pick up one Mami and have her settled in, that Mami will insist on capturing every version of Mami from every loop so as to "save them from loneliness the way I was saved", with maximum cultism and multithread Mami hiveminding.
You know, Mami would totally be into being Susbsumed, after the fact.
Mami's wish was to be connected to life, and her deepest dream is to have a permanent companion to share her own life with, to such a degree that she would never feel the crushing despair of loneliness ever again.
Being subsumed, Mami would quickly realize that her deepest wish of being connected to life is fulfilled, on a level she never thought possible.
Yes, she's now de-facto a witch's familiar and thus become the very thing she sought to destroy, and is now forever(until we get relays) separated from her fellow countrymen, but her every waking and sleeping moment is redefined with the ability to -ping!- Ashtaroth's existence in her head and soul whenever her loneliness psychosis kicks in. And that's not even mentioning Ashtaroth's own nosiness and tendency to butt-in with random opinions.
I predict it will get to the point that Mami will end up being even creepiest-er-ly than Ashtaroth is about their linked soul data stream.
Ashtaroth will very quickly discover her title being rewritten toAshtaroth .
Edit: if the loops continue, the instant we pick up one Mami and have her settled in, that Mami will insist on capturing every version of Mami from every loop so as to "save them from loneliness the way I was saved", with maximum cultism and multithread Mami hiveminding.
To be fair to Asharoth, the breakdown of this morning is almost entirely due to Mami and her unwillingness to actually consider diplomacy with a Witch. She went into the meeting looking for an excuse for murder.Plus, after the breakdown of this morning's meeting, combined with your memories of another... prior incident, you're starting to suspect you just kind of suck at diplomacy anyways.
No, I don't think it would be called that... there's another name for such anomalous instances. Either way, probably best to avoid that, since your best case scenario in such an event would likely be something like this...
...which isn't really as good an outcome as you might initially imagine it to be.
"H-huh? What did that witch- what did I- oh..."
By fancy retro-future chic, I assume you mean these are touchscreen flip phones?Each of them receives a cell phone of identical make and model to Tira's, meaning fannnnncy~. Of course, since the world of PMMM is inexplicably still in the age of flip phones so far as I can tell, it may not be up to your standards of fancy, but hey, maybe it's just retro-future chic! 📱
Alien to Kyubey, absolutely. Alien to the planet, sure. Alien to humans, definitely not, seeing as witches are derivatives of humanity.Technically, it could be argued that Witches are aliens too, due to existing in their own pocket dimension and never properly appearing on Earth.
It was never officially confirmed, but presumably yes... until such time that canon retcons it, causing Flair to bang her head against the wall in authorial frustration.It's been a while so I don't recall for sure, but isn't Tira the witch that nearly ate moeblob Homuhomu in the OG timeline?
*insert joke about black holes being infinitely dense, which Ashtaroth fails to pick up on*
Both Sayakas are armed. One has swords while the other has a single soon-to-be-enchanted bat. So if they both believe the other ain't real and aren't afraid of hurting each other, maybe it will go beyond slaps. Though considering the Sayakas are mostly identical, I think they would be more freaked out by the idea of murdering herself, fake or not. Also, Mami implied the enchanted bat was a good makeshift weapon against familiars but inferior to actual magical girl weapons, while Ashtaroth's Sayaka also has the benefit of standard magical girl enhancements and super healing. Taking all of this into account, although the bat would be a painful nuisance, I bet Ashtaroth's Sayaka could and would disable the other Sayaka without even using her sword.Also I want to see Sayaka get into a slap fight with herself, and see how radically different a wish this version will make because of this. If at all. Hey what do you think NotOur!Sayaka will do if we pre-empt her and heal Kyosuk or whoever?
To clarify, I think it is still possible to actually talk things out, even if in practice it will end badly more likely than not. And if Ashtaroth wisely lets Mami's friends do the talking this time, hopefully diplomacy should work better even if it still starts and ends with some confused hostility.
To begin with, it's not as if Ashtaroth would want to spend every single timeline in Mitakihara, considering she has no motivation to keep meeting the magical girls there. I'd consider it a complete success, at least in Ashtaroth's story, if she manages to make peace with Mami in those few times when they do meet.We can't make meaningful progress with her because of the 'timeline' resets.
You have a point there; Mami will be depressed by the revelation, and that will wear her down even after Tetris passes.Even were that not the case, Mami can't handle the truth. Too much of her identity is wrapped up in being a magic girl and that beinging a good thing. Noming her soul gem might not even help there. It'll stop her from witching, sure, but she's plainly mentally fragile. A Mad Mami isn't a huge improvement.
I can totally see Ashtaroth's barrier being marketed as a magical girl retirement home. I mean, that's basically what it is, right?We put up a sign that says "Welcome to the Witch Coven Condos"!!
Is it even safe to consume for humans who haven't been subsumed by Ashtaroth?I think it might be worth harvesting from the apple orchards and Charlotte's labyrinth for something they can use as a peace offering, not that they'll have time to do so before Mami makes her way in.
Hm, interesting. For some reason I feel like Charlotte's sweets would be edible, but the apples wouldn't. I think because the sweets are core to Charlotte's nature as the Sweets Witch, but the apples are more like part of the landscape.Is it even safe to consume for humans who haven't been subsumed by Ashtaroth?
Yeah, Ashtaroth's Sayaka could simply use her musical platforms to create a cage around the other Sayaka.Taking all of this into account, although the bat would be a painful nuisance, I bet Ashtaroth's Sayaka could and would disable the other Sayaka without even using her sword.
Hotel California~I can totally see Ashtaroth's barrier being marketed as a magical girl retirement home. I mean, that's basically what it is, right?
Honestly a pretty good idea. Even if all Ashy gets is an empty Kyuubey puppet, that's a pretty good tactical advantage. Many magical girls are more inclined to trust Kyuubey than a witch.