- Location
- Detroit, Michigan
Subsumption (PMMM Faux-Quest) (Witch MC)
- Location
- Australia
So something no one seems to have picked up on, but that has potentially worrying implications: if MadoSaya are already being given the meguca sales pitch by Mami, today isn't March 16th.
Hopefully Ashy's partial subsumtion of Homu just made her time travel spit her out at a later date this one time, and didn't do permanent damage to her ability to rewind.
Hopefully Ashy's partial subsumtion of Homu just made her time travel spit her out at a later date this one time, and didn't do permanent damage to her ability to rewind.
Echo
Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
- Location
- "echolocation" dur hur hur
It's been a while so I don't recall for sure, but isn't Tira the witch that nearly ate moeblob Homuhomu in the OG timeline?
We kinda already knew that, seeing as Ashy was dropped in right at the moment of witchification, including whatsherface still being around, which was clearly a while into the loop given how things went the first time through.
- Location
- Australia
Oh! Of course! Yeah, I totally missed that - so the working theory is that Homura went back to March 16th, but Ashy couldn't go back to any time before she became a witch? Makes sense.
Echo
Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
- Location
- "echolocation" dur hur hur
I think that's the general assumption, yeah. Ashy couldn't go back any further and still be Ashy. Possibly because of the Witch-ness in general, possibly because of some additional factor related to whatever made her forget details about her pre-Witch life, and possibly because the author thought it would be more interesting this way. Or some combination thereof.
Technically we don't know that Homura looped as normal, but we did see her wake up in the hospital at the end of her interlude and nothing was sufficiently out of place to be immediately noticed, so it's probably a safe bet.
Woo-boo. The story's back and just in time for Walpurgisnacht too
Maybe I'm wrong but don't a lot of magical girl characters feature aliens (Sailor Moon, Nanoha). Kyubey. Considering Sayaka's supposed to be a magical girl fan, she shouldn't have been surprised that the talking non human creature wasn't of this planet.
Looks like Ash is starting to catch on to the whole time travel thing. Not that's much comfort seeing as how she's still a witch plus Sayaka and Tira now having to deal with the emotional conundrum of viewing alternatives of themselves living the lives now denied to them
[X] Send Tira down as an emissary. It went wrong once, but things were going okay up until you screwed it up, so if you can just... not do that this time, it might work out?
Running away has never worked well for us so may as well at least try to talk. Worse case scenario if Mami decides to attack us, it'll be five (3 witches + 2 magical girls) against one.
Maybe I'm wrong but don't a lot of magical girl characters feature aliens (Sailor Moon, Nanoha). Kyubey. Considering Sayaka's supposed to be a magical girl fan, she shouldn't have been surprised that the talking non human creature wasn't of this planet.
Wouldn't the date appear on the phone screen? At which point Ash and the girls would've the date was different from when they remembered it
Looks like Ash is starting to catch on to the whole time travel thing. Not that's much comfort seeing as how she's still a witch plus Sayaka and Tira now having to deal with the emotional conundrum of viewing alternatives of themselves living the lives now denied to them
[X] Send Tira down as an emissary. It went wrong once, but things were going okay up until you screwed it up, so if you can just... not do that this time, it might work out?
Running away has never worked well for us so may as well at least try to talk. Worse case scenario if Mami decides to attack us, it'll be five (3 witches + 2 magical girls) against one.
I think that's why Ash began to think that something was wrong after seeing the phone, she probably saw the date when looking at the time and realized that it was wrong.
Twei
I have a face!
- Location
- the land where they write things
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[-] Leave, as quickly as you possibly can. You don't see another Tira at least, and without her help, the Mami clone surely can't get to you up here, right?!
-[-]Wait a minute... Sayaka's phone, and now this... it couldn't be...?
Ash has to figure it out sooner or later, right?
-[-]Wait a minute... Sayaka's phone, and now this... it couldn't be...?
Ash has to figure it out sooner or later, right?
Echo
Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
- Location
- "echolocation" dur hur hur
Not if this timeline's Tira witches out!
Gotta look on the bright side y'know.
Your bright side looks about as black as Kyubey's soul.Not if this timeline's Tira witches out!
Gotta look on the bright side y'know.
But hey! Sometimes, it's the morbid things that help.
The Crimson King
It's possible to eat an orange with just teeth.
- Location
- America
Everybody's here talking about time travel and clones, meanwhile I'm sitting here in the corner thinking about the meeting of the Mamis. Seriously though, imagine how surreal it would be to see your own Witch as a Magical Girl. Your innermost traumas, fears, dreams, and obsessions smeared onto the canvass of a world and personified into this ... thing. What are you even supposed to do at that point?
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
Witch out
Accept yourself as "I'll Face Myself" plays in the background?
... What? It could work! Magic and shit, ya'know!
Assuming Mami even believes the part about how magical girls turn into witches rather than dismissing it as an insane lie. In canon, it took Sayaka witching out in front of her, Madoka, Kyoko and Homura for her to start taking it seriously
Flairina
Least Omnipotent Goddess
- Location
- The next infinity over
Indeed! Couldn't miss Walpurgisnacht again; would have been bad form. o(*￣▽￣*)o
Well, I'm glad this doesn't seem to have been a contentious choice after all.
Just to note, the original idea for this particular plot element sprang from Witch Quest, which I recall being rather adamant about "no doubles" after loops, with the excuse that anything in a divorced reality (a barrier) at the time of Homura looping got brought back as well. That... didn't really make much sense to me, and I felt failed to address a few things I would have liked to see, hence I decided to do my own take on it. I did definitely consider the very-plausible alternative of the Sayaka and Tira of this timeline seemingly "evaporating" into thin air upon Ashtaroth's arrival (even if it would have required nixing/tempering a certain other element of why things have happened the way they did), but it would have made for a very different plot that, while theoretically interesting in and of itself, wasn't the one I wanted to write. Hence, this.Yes, after managing to stay in a seemingly-terminal hover for over a year, it has finally dropped!
(...or has it?
)Oh? I don't think that's necessarily true, especially if you manage to successfully escape. There's still a chance it might not happen!
(Yet.)
I wouldn't say "long ago", but it's definitely been set aside for the time being in favor of something potentially way more pressing. Hence Ashtaroth's <Change of plans!> at the start of the chapter.
Correct, that was only in the older version of this story. Perhaps it will happen at some point in this version as well, but that point is unlikely to be any time soon.
There's definitely a reason the "run" option is at the top of the immediate choices.
Such certainty! I'm sure Mami appreciates the faith you seem to have in her.
The odds are more in Ashtaroth's favor than before — but I wonder if that would really be enough. There's an awful lot of assumptions in play here...
Poor Candyladle just wants to not be left behind. Is that so wrong?
Ashtaroth certainly didn't seem to enjoy attempting to leave hers back in Confrontation, no.
Oh ho~, what an interesting idea. Almost wish I — or rather, Ashtaroth — had thought of that option my/herself...
Can't claim you have a truly complete Puelladex without having all the available forms! I hear there's a special "holy" version of Mami too, only available through mystery gift!
Yeah, I'm pretty sure your lack of early interference with Tira in this timeline led her to despair alone offscreen. Now you can collect both the magical girl and the witch instead of choosing between them. You monster.
Man, the scope of this collect em' all quest just keeps expanding. Can't it slow down a little? We lost our only Homura, and we haven't even pulled one of the ultra rare MG Madokas yet!
I mean, we don't know that's assumption they would make. Mami has better judgment than that, don't you think? (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)
Arguably, yes, I suppose that's true. Most of them certainly look alien enough to fit the bill, if nothing else...
That was Tira who spoke out about it, not Sayaka.
In a world where reality-warping magic can be a mere wish away, the possible causes of anything strange expand to cover a whole host of increasingly-complicated options...
One day, Ashtaroth may even pick up on it!
Suspiciously well indeed... ಠಿ_ಠ
She could use that, yeah... too bad she's not so great at it, herself. Usually ends up coming off as rather insensitive, for some strange reason.
She really can't, can she? Even with her multiple breakdowns, it's honestly kind of impressive she's held up as well as she has.
Or, perhaps, he was already present — telepathy isn't known to be audible over phones after all, especially for those on a different station entirely.
That tends to make things difficult, yes. ^^;
No comment on the first part (yet); I just wanted to note that I quite enjoy the idea of "Little Miss Ahab" as a nickname for Hirako. (*^▽^*)
Not if this timeline's Tira witches out!
Gotta look on the bright side y'know.
What soul? I don't recall him ever claiming to have one of those.
Witch out
Helpfully, Magia Record may hold some insight into this very subject!... though, I'm pretty sure that everyone involved would rather Mami not cope with the revelation the same way she did there. (CC on)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn1s1DVl4kA
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I like how Sayaka jumps in with a barrier an struggles against Mami's projectile.
It's not "oh no I lost my grip I have to try harder" because it actually is "oh shoot my left wrist just snapped in two like a fucking twig. Let me just take a fraction of a second to throw my left arm backwards just so, fast enough to realign my wrist with my forearm, and heal it back into place... all right, back to blocking Mami's big shot. Ho hum."
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
This seems like a worse version of tetris to me. That had emotional weight, this just has stupid amounts of dakka and nonsensically useless bullets.
- Location
- Wayland, Massachusetts
Don't you dare doubt the power of tetris. I'll have you know that tetris can bring even an unfeeling AI to an existential crisis.
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
Tetris is a joke-name for Mamis breakdown in the original series in one of the previous time loops.
I wasn't referring to the videogame.
- Pronouns
- He
I know there is a video on YouTube of Mami having a mental break-down to the theme of Tetris.
- Location
- Wayland, Massachusetts
I'm well aware. But who cares about Mami's breakdown in the face of our robot overlords also having a breakdown.
Appletank
Acquire Cheese
It'd be extremely funny if Ash keeps collecting more copies of herself with each loop.