That may not even be possible however, and that's where we start getting into the question of "Just how much can you rules lawyer a PMMM wish?" It's important to keep in mind that they have to be made based on actual emotional reasons, so you can't just make a wish like " I want to control all of reality" just because it sounds like the best choice, but presumably I can still improve my situation even without ultimate power.
There may have been emotional bleedthrough into Ashy's wish, just like how Sayaka got healing powers despite never explicitly wishing for it. The main difference would be how strongly certain aspects of her powers are expressed. So now I'm actually less sure of what Ashy's wish was than I was at the very beginning!

Not necessarily, anyone who doesn't know the Incubators are a collective wouldn't be able to spite effectively, and if the return in energy is high enough...they'd totally do it anyways
True. When he vetoed a wish in Suzune Magica, his reasoning boiled down to "we get negative profit from this". So it should be possible to negotiate a wish with "acceptable" downsides.
 
My real, for emotional reasons, wish would be 'for people to respect and listen to me.' If you asked me when I was the appropriate age.

If you asked me in college it'd be 'for a progressive wave to sweep the country in the next election, putting in place a new generation of politicians who genuinely desire to help the poor.'

if you asked me now, I'm honestly not sure.
 
Wish to be an Adfligo Systema. Might as well go all out.

Or copy paste my memories and personality into my witch, which was what I was thinking of before I read PMAS.
 
...none of this... is right...

...it shouldn't... be like this...

...I can't... I won't... accept...

...this world...
The lucid dream option would also still be possible, and... so would something very close to Ashtaroth's wish, actually, if not exactly that.
Oh, oh! Lucid dreaming, the world being wrong, "not the way it should be"... Ashie's wish is in here somewhere!

I actually might want to try and help.
I don't recall anyone else who has ever said they'd try to help Kyuubey. I agree! But it's a rather rare opinion to see.
 
Ashtaroth, the Empress Witch. Her nature is management. With the ability to annex other labyrinths onto her own, she has come to rule over many lands, their conqueror and savior all in one. However, her leniency with many of the territories' former owners has left them alive to potentially contest her, along with their accompanying vassals. Wanting to retain the peace she has worked so hard to create, the witch uses those she has claimed as her own as ambassadors and consuls to those regions, doing what she can to uphold the delicate balance. To defeat this witch, one must incite rebellion, and allow the resulting civil war to collapse the barrier-state from within.
Ashy turns from a normal Witch, as the Witch of Subsumption, into a conglomeration Witch, as the Empress Witch.
If that happens, I think Ashy would be the only Witch to be happy about magical girls invading her Barrier, especially those that are good at inciting rebellion. Mainly because those are good at manipulating others and thus, once she subsumed them, she can drop off more work to them.

Mind, there are at least a few details about Candeloro's labyrinth that have yet to be seen, and aren't included in the "official" description/depiction.
I knew it! The Du Polignacs break room/terrace exists!:D

Minecraft is already everywhere as is; no need to bring it into Ashtaroth's barrier. :p
This sounds like an omake prompt. Someone plays Minecraft, screws up a portal, and then stumbles his way through Ashys Barrier.

Well, this is an interesting question. I'll say right from the start that it depends a lot on the factors involved --- I'll assume that I remain as the same basic person regardless, but depending on what we're qualifying as "me", there's multiple permutations of how this could go. Spoilered for length:
The lucid dream Wish is interesting. The Wish magic could be stuff like creating illusions, over giving people daydreams, to manipulating other people's dreams. I'm curious how the "control" part of the Wish would interact with becoming a Witch though. Especially if "fully control" includes the ability to not wake up.

The second Wish is interesting because of how it interacts with the world. How would Kyubey react? How would he explain those visions to any girl that wants to make a Wish? How would older magical girls react? What would Oriko do?

Is it weird that I want this to actually happen? Ashy can troll magical girls worldwide by doing it, potentially luring them directly to her from very far away.
The greatest anime of this season! Produced by studio Ashtaroth!
 
This sounds like an omake prompt. Someone plays Minecraft, screws up a portal, and then stumbles his way through Ashys Barrier.
I think there's a mod pack for that. If not I'm sure you can cobble together a few to get a close approximation. Add in a few more and you could get something much weirder. Minecraft mods have long surpassed anime in terms of bullshit and weirdness one can experience.
 
If they ever got the radio idea going I feel like people would be most confused with the Candeloro hosted segments.

"So last night I was messing around with my radio looking to see if I could find that rumored pirate station and I think I managed to find it, but I'm not sure, it was even weirder than I heard it was."

"What was that Ashtarot girl on there talking about how magical girls are created by evil plushies?"

"Well that Soot girl was there, but she wasn't alone, or at least she acted like she wasn't..."

"What do you mean?"

"Well she kept referring to, or talking to someone called Candle Lord or something like that. But whenever they were supposed to talk there was just a bunch of chirping, kinda sounded like an Animal Crossing character. And sometimes they'd have a back and forth for a good few minutes, but I couldn't ever understand the Candle host. I figured it might be something on my end or an issue with their editing so I stuck around till the next hour to see if they'd start a different segment. They did but this one was even stranger. Ashygoth introduced it a fake British accent as Candel Lord's Classic Concerto and it was just a classic piece and then like 10 minutes of enthusiastic chirping in between."
 
was that Ashtarot girl on there talking
This would require Ashtaroth gain the ability to talk to people she hasn't subsumed. I do not believe her luck to be that good. It would be like Homura Getting The Girl with no kidnapping involved, or Mami having friends, Or Sayaka winning a fight without the term "Pyrrhic" being thrown around, or someone having some sort of contact with Hitomi that they did not eventually come to regret.
 
This would require Ashtaroth gain the ability to talk to people she hasn't subsumed.
Not if she uses a live meat puppet. Which actually makes the fake British accent even funnier, because the speaker is either too goofy to be in character or too goofy to be possessed, depending on who it is. (My bets are on Sayaka, deliberately hamming it up.)
 
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> Have the girls continue eating.

<Well?> Sayaka telepathically questions, keeping her mouth shut and her eyes fixed on the witch in front of her. <Got anything yet?>

<I do.>
you reply, albeit somewhat tentatively. <Try finishing the food.>

You feel identical expressions of confusion manifest on Sayaka and Tira's faces.

<...maybe I'm missing something here, but, how exactly is that supposed to help?>

<I too fail to see how that could possibly be expected to resolve anything.>

<Candeloro doesn't seem to want to hurt you, but she also doesn't want you to leave.>
you explain. <She therefore must still want something from you. Based on what she's been doing so far, I think it's for you two to be her "party guests". If that's all she wants though, then if you play along, she might just let you leave once the party is over.>

<...your usage of "might" implies an uncomfortable lack of certainty in that assertion.>

<You're right, I'm not certain it'll work at all. But it's the best plan I can think of that I'm pretty sure won't potentially cause a fight in the process of attempting it.>


Honestly, you'd prefer to do something that involves you being at least slightly more proactive on your end of things, but you have no idea how Candeloro will react to your presence if you make it known. Even just realizing you're here might constitute reason enough for her to attack — Saar became hostile towards you on sight, after all. You'd still like to see if Candeloro can understand witch runes, but after everything that's gone on this morning, playing things relatively safe sounds like a better idea right now.

<I'm all for alternative suggestions if you've got any.> you continue. <I just figured this was the idea least likely to blow up in our collective faces.>

Your own now only partial lack of one notwithstanding.

Sayaka glances down at her half-eaten bowl of noodles and sighs.

"Fine..." she says, picking her chopsticks back up, "can't say I'm all that hungry anymore, but I guess it can't hurt, at least."

With that, Sayaka resumes eating, though her bites are noticeably more mechanical and forced than before. Meanwhile, Tira looks down warily at her own, still-untouched bowl of soba, seeming to have some internal debate with herself.

"...I suppose I do not have a better proposal." she says after a few moments, seemingly more to herself than to you or Sayaka.

Tira takes hold of her chopsticks for the first time and slowly lifts a mouthful of noodles to her lips. She freezes before letting it actually reach her mouth however, her hand simply holding the food in the air for several long, drawn out seconds.

<I don't see what you're still so worried about, Tira. Just eat.>

Seriously, from the way she's been acting about this, you'd think Candeloro was serving her and Sayaka visibly rotten food. Is she just a really picky eater or something?

At your urging, Tira finally presses the pasta past her lips. She gulps it down without actually chewing it, as though worried it's going to bite back, and notably tenses in her seat as soon as she's swallowed. Jeez, you get being cautious, but there is such a thing as overdoing it. You wonder if there's a story there...

Seeming to relax slightly when nothing happens to her, Tira leans forward and takes another bite. Seeing that both of her guests are eating now, Candeloro lifts off the table and does a delighted little mid-air twirl before extending a ribbon and winding it around the handle of her own teacup. Raising it to her midsection, the witch tips the cup backwards towards her apron, and you watch through Sayaka as the liquid within vanishes into the bright red "cloth" without a trace — yep, definitely her mouth.

...come to think of it, you really hope Candeloro doesn't try to eat the girls in turn or something once they've finished. Her cottage may not be made of candy, but the scenario of a seemingly kind witch inviting a pair of children into her home and letting them (nay, making them) eat her food is far too reminiscent of Hansel and Gretel for you to not at least make the comparison. You drift a little closer to the building at that thought, keeping your shatterwords at the ready in case Candeloro shows any signs of pulling a Charlotte.

After a few mostly silent minutes, Sayaka and Tira polish off their food and tea, as well as the plate of biscuits still set out between them. It takes less time than you would have expected, mostly due to Tira losing most of her remaining nervousness after the first minute or so, and thereafter proceeding to politely-yet-ravenously devour everything in front of her. Apparently she took Sayaka's earlier advice to heart.

"Well, that's everything." Sayaka notes, looking around at the various empty dishes.

Candeloro seems to have realized this before Sayaka even said anything, one of her ribbons already in the process of beckoning yet another pair of familiars over. The maids swiftly remove the dinnerware from the table, gathering it all up on their serving platters in two small piles, then pull the same lid trick that the one from before did, covering their trays with identical silver domes, then removing them a few moments later to reveal that the dirty crockery has completely vanished. You suppose that's basically the magic equivalent of a dishwasher around here.

"May we leave now?" Tira asks as the familiars step away, her eyes sliding back towards the door.

Candeloro doesn't react to Tira's question, instead lifting off the table again and flying over to the front-right corner of the room. She hovers there for a brief moment, before winding her ribbons around a seemingly random pair of presents from one of the many scattered piles thereof. Returning to the table with the gifts in tow, she extends the small wrapped boxes to Sayaka and Tira, sliding them across the table and setting them down directly in front of the girls.

"...now we're getting presents?" Sayaka questions, lifting the slightly heavy gift up to get a better look at it.

"Evidently, yes." Tira replies, staring at her own gift as one would a live bomb. "And I take it we are expected to open them."

Sayaka looks up at Candeloro, who is once again expectantly watching the pair.

"Probably a safe bet, yeah." she sighs. "Let's just get this 'party' over with..."

Without any real enthusiasm, Sayaka tears open the present's carefully-wrapped packaging and roughly slides out the item within. Glancing down, she takes a single brief look at the object she's now holding... and involuntarily sucks in a breath.

Gripped within Sayaka's hands is a small framed picture, its dimensions just slightly below that of a standard sheet of notebook paper. The frame itself is beautiful, made of a brilliantly golden metal with a great enough heft to make you wonder if it isn't actual, literal gold. Thin lines of silver filigree can be seen running throughout the material, forming swirling, abstract patterns that are almost invisible in the light. A long red ribbon has also been wrapped around two of the frame's corners, a tasteful addition to an already beautiful piece.

...the frame could be made of mud for all that Sayaka seems to notice it, however. The picture within it is what's instead captured her attention — though slightly surreal and blurry-looking, it's still clearly recognizable as an image of her and Madoka, standing together with simultaneously scared and awed looks on their faces. For some reason, there's also a bunch of little mustachioed puffball things with butterflies for legs being blasted away in the background, and Madoka seems to be clutching Kyubey in her arms like a stray cat... erm, what is this?

"This is from the mall..." Sayaka breathes, as if having read your mind. "Back when Mami-san... saved us..."

Her gaze snaps up towards Tira. "Quick, open yours!"

Tira startles at Sayaka's almost frantic-sounding demand, but does as requested, nervously peeling back the wrapping of her own present until another framed picture is uncovered. Though the casing is identical to Sayaka's, the image within is different — this one depicts Tira with an expression of clear panic, knocked to the ground and cringing away from something that looks vaguely like a miniature radio tower set atop two bulging, cocoon-like legs fixed in a permanent kneeling position. Despite Tira's terrified visage, the radio tower appears to be keening sideways, as though having just taken a heavy blow from the same direction as the picture's perspective.

As soon as Tira sees what she's been given, she reacts in much the same way Sayaka did, gasping aloud and immediately fixating on the image.

"Do you recognize it?" Sayaka asks.

Tira nods slowly, not looking away.

"Where from?" Sayaka presses, her tone growing increasingly urgent.

Tira is silent for a long moment. Just as you start to wonder if she even heard the question, she finally responds.

"I met Tomoe-san shortly after becoming a magical girl." Tira says quietly. "I was overconfident and foolish... I laughed at Kyubey's offer to find someone to mentor me, refusing to believe witches could truly be so dangerous as he espoused. As a result, I was nearly killed by the very first one I encountered... but just before it could finish me off, Tomoe-san appeared and saved me."

She closes her eyes. "This picture is... it is of that very moment."

Outside, you tilt your neck slightly to the side in confusion. Wait, these are pictures of the first times that Sayaka and Tira each met Mami? How does that make sense? She's not even in either of them... unless, you suppose, they're being viewed from her perspective?

...are these pictures of Mami's memories?

"Then, that means- no. I don't understand." Sayaka says as she glances up at the witch, apparently having come to the same conclusion as you. "You do remember us then?"

"And remember... yourself?" Tira hesitantly adds.

Candeloro doesn't respond, instead flying over to a different present pile and retrieving another pair of gifts from it. Like the first ones, these are promptly delivered to Sayaka and Tira, who open them without hesitation this time. A second set of framed pictures is soon uncovered, the images within again differing for their respective recipient.

Sayaka's picture shows her, once again side-by-side with Madoka. The two of them are sitting next to a snack-laden coffee table in what looks like a small living room, smiling in the light of the setting sun.

Tira's picture shows her standing at a kitchen counter, holding a knife just a few inches over a cutting board. A hand from someone out of frame is clasped over top of hers, helping to guide it as she clumsily attempts to cut a slice from a large strawberry.

"This is when Madoka and I visited Mami-san's apartment..." Sayaka almost whispers.

"...and when I attempted to assist Tomoe-san in making a shortcake." Tira says, just as softly.

...well, great. Now what are you supposed to think? Does Candeloro — or perhaps it's still Mami after all — remember anything or not? Surely the fact that she has framed pictures of her memories of Sayaka and Tira has to mean something; you can't imagine the witch would be showing these to them without having at least some idea who they are. But she's still not acting like she remembers being human...

Sayaka and Tira are just staring at Candeloro now, seemingly at a loss for words — evidently they're no more certain what to think about any of this than you are. The witch stares back at them, her gaze again flickering back and forth between the two as though unable to decide which of the pair to focus on. Meanwhile, you're now just trying to figure out if you should still try to talk to Candeloro, or even let her see you, since you're no longer sure how much of Mami is left in there... until you suddenly notice a slight movement out of the corner of Tira's eye.

Momentarily distracted, you focus in on the motion, spotting something slowly creeping out from behind one of the gift piles at the back of the room. What is- oh, just another maid familiar. Nothing worth letting yourself get sidetracked over... although, wait, this one looks slightly different from the others you've seen thus far. A third variant?

Marginally more interested now, you look a little closer, though the image you're getting from the side of a single eye isn't perfect. Judging by the shoulder-length auburn hair you can see fanning out around the familiar's neck, this one is based on Tira, which you suppose you really should have expected after seeing the Sayaka ones — the redheads are probably based on someone Mami knew as well. For some reason however, the Tira-maid appears to be unique, or at least is the only one of its kind currently present in the room. It's unlike the other familiars in more than just hairstyle as well, not only lacking the silver serving platter that otherwise seems standard, but also any ribbons wrapped around its limbs, leaving both its hands and arms completely free. On a subtler note, you can just barely tell that instead of the wide, plastic smile all the other familiars are sporting, this one is actually frowning, the unique expression making it look oddly... tense?

<Hey, girls? Not to interrupt your staring contest, but have you noticed the->

The Tira-maid abruptly sprints out of the corner and leaps forwards like an Olympian, soaring over almost half the room in a single bound before coming down directly in the center of the dining table. Sayaka and Tira both yelp in surprise, and Candeloro squeaks in much the same manner, but before anyone can react beyond that, the familiar jumps again, this time landing almost directly in front of the cottage door. Hang on, what-?

The Tira-maid begins to run the remaining few yards to the entrance. At the same time, Candeloro hastily gestures to the pair of maids standing guard in front of it, presumably directing them to intercept. The red and blue duo however make no attempt whatsoever to stop their auburn-haired counterpart, instead stepping away from the door and motioning towards it, as if to spur their comrade on.

In a flash, the rogue familiar throws the door open and bursts outside, running over the nearby rainbow bridge at a speed that none of the other familiars have shown thus far. Being that you're hovering over the platter on the other side of said bridge, you quickly begin to back away, wanting no part of what's going on right now until you have a better idea of what that actually is.

Back inside, Candeloro screeches with what you assume to be rage, and the ends of the ribbons wrapped around the two "guarding" familiars' limbs abruptly extend outwards and tie themselves in knots, locking the maids' hands and feet together and sending them both crashing to the floor. With the pair of familiars now indisposed, Candeloro follows up by immediately giving chase to the escaping one, her golden aura reigniting as she darts out of the still-open cottage door. Despite your relative sizes and the distance between you, the other witch is easy to spot as she emerges into your personal field of view, the light pouring off of her shining and flaring like an angry firefly. Not wanting to be anywhere near that, you back away even further.

"Wha- what just happened?!" Sayaka sputters. "Ash, did you do something?!"

<Wasn't me, but here's your chance to leave, I guess!>

Realizing at your prompting that they've suddenly been left alone, Sayaka and Tira share a momentary look with each other before bolting out of their seats and sprinting for the exit. None of the remaining familiars within the cottage do anything to stop them, seeming far more concerned with their tied-up comrades than preventing their "guests" from escaping.

At the same time that the pair of magical girls practically throw themselves out the door, the Tira-maid reaches another platter, continuing its mad dash away from its master's home. Spotting her fleeing servant in the distance, Candeloro takes off after it, ribbons lengthening to the size of telephone poles and streaming out behind her like wings as she goes.

"Is that... me?" Tira gasps, her gaze locked on the increasingly distant familiar as it hurdles one of the massive teacups to land on the rainbow bridge beyond it.

<It certainly looks like you at least, yes.> you reply, now hovering over the blood lake, roughly halfway between the network of platters and the rows of apple trees. <No idea what all this is about though...>

Based on the familiar's extreme haste, combined with Candeloro's relentless pursuit of it, you get the impression this is some sort of jailbreak? Perhaps the other witch's reluctance to let people leave her house extends to her familiars as well... though, those other two were let out earlier, so that doesn't seem quite right. Either way, seeing as how Candeloro has still somehow yet to notice the towering monochrome monument that is you floating over her lake, chasing the Tira-maid is apparently giving her a serious case of tunnel vision. Should you be doing something about this...?



[-] Help Candeloro retrieve her familiar. You still want to try and talk to her yourself, and it's best to make a good first impression, right? Or a good second impression, at least?
[-] Help the familiar escape Candeloro. It is the attacked party here, and if it's this desperate to get away from its master, you can't help but wonder if that might just be justified.
[-] Sit tight and wait until this is finished. Whatever is going on right now doesn't actually have anything to do with you, so you probably shouldn't interfere. You can conduct your business with the other witch after she's finished with her own.
[-] Just leave. Not permanently or anything, but this doesn't seem like the best time to be doing anything with Candeloro, period. As long as she doesn't notice you going, a tactical retreat doesn't seem unreasonable right now.
[-] Write in.

[-] Have Sayaka and Tira get out of sight. You don't want them getting force back into the cottage the second Candeloro notices they left it.
[-] Have Sayaka and Tira stick around. If Candeloro does remember them, for real, they should hopefully be a calming influence on her... which you will likely need, if she also remembers you.
[-] Write in.
 
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[X] Sit tight and wait until this is finished. Whatever is going on right now doesn't actually have anything to do with you, so you probably shouldn't interfere. You can conduct your business with Candeloro after she's finished with her own.
[X] Have Sayaka and Tira get out of sight. You don't want Candeloro forcing them back into her cottage the second she notices they left it.

Well obviously Sayaka and Tira probably shouldn't stick around lest they get trapped again.
Intervening with her familiar may trigger her no matter what we do, so we watch and see what happens.

Looks like she forgot ONLY herself.
 
Hmmm, interesting. A rebellious Familiar, eh? Not terribly odd considering the earlier familiar shenanigans, but certainly more extreme. Make the familiar a friend maybe?
[X] Help the familiar escape Candeloro. It is the attacked party here, and if it's this desperate to get away from its master, you can't help but wonder if that might just be justified.
 
Oh boy, all the abandonment issues, ALL of them. Even her familiars want to leave her. Acting out her worst fears. My filthy shipper instincts say she should be shipped with ashtaroth but a friend-ship would work too... or maybe see if she could act as a big sis for charlotte... wait candeloro made food... wasnt charlotte obsessed with her favorite snack, cheese? Which was the only snack she couldn't magic up?( or was that some weird fanfic thing) Can candeloro make stuff using it? Cause theres potential for those two to fulfill each other's obsessions if so. And with those sated maybe they can work on remembering themselves.
 
Oh boy, all the abandonment issues, ALL of them. Even her familiars want to leave her. Acting out her worst fears. My filthy shipper instincts say she should be shipped with ashtaroth but a friend-ship would work too... or maybe see if she could act as a big sis for charlotte... wait candeloro made food... wasnt charlotte obsessed with her favorite snack, cheese? Which was the only snack she couldn't magic up?( or was that some weird fanfic thing) Can candeloro make stuff using it? Cause theres potential for those two to fulfill each other's obsessions if so. And with those sated maybe they can work on remembering themselves.
That is an interesting idea, and I do believe that cheese is the only snack that Charlotte can't create. My worry is that a Witch's Barrier is supposed to be a form of self-inflicted hell; What happens to a Witch if they, well, aren't being put through that sort of hell?
 
[X] Sit tight and wait until this is finished. Whatever is going on right now doesn't actually have anything to do with you, so you probably shouldn't interfere. You can conduct your business with Candeloro after she's finished with her own.
[X] Have Sayaka and Tira get out of sight. You don't want Candeloro forcing them back into her cottage the second she notices they left it.

From what I know of PMMM familiars both help and harm their master, they usually harm them by carrying out their worst nightmare while keeping them safe from any intruder. I'm not sure of intervene though since she's obviously not in her right state of mind and clearly dangerous. Worst comes to worst we subsum her making her less likely to murder us on the spot.
 
Oh, I want to praise this story more, but I can't think of more to say! It's so good! Every single character and mystery is so interesting!

"...now we're getting presents?" Sayaka questions, lifting the slightly heavy gift up to get a better look at it.
You know, this is the first time I've read a story where the witch gives gifts? I've always liked that idea for a witch... if you do everything just right, you get a present, otherwise you get eaten. Bait, to enhance a witch's hunting. I know it's almost certainly not that in this case, but I like it all the same.
 
Hmm... nah, still don't think Candeloro knows who Sayaka and Tira are. But the Barrier might. I've said before, but Candeloro isn't Mami. Rather she's a part of Mami. Everything here, Candeloro, the familiars, the barrier itself, it's all Mami. I think the gifts are the Barrier showing that it remembers Sayaka and Tira, with Candeloro being both a means of showing that part of her remembers them, and to just keep them there with her.

As for the vote, tough call. I do want a maid for Tira and Sayaka, and so far they've acted pretty chill. If she doesn't want to be there, that's fine with me. Plus I want to try a little experiment. I'm guessing this is normally how familiars would get out of Candeloro's barrier and do the usual familiar shtick of eat people and become their own witch. But here, that familiar is going to escape to either Ashtaroth's Barrier or Saar's. What happens if they do? Will Candeloro give up the chase to return to her territory, like she always did as a magical girl? Or will she realize she has a larger world to enter and keep going?

Not that we can't get a maid anyway. The Sayaka and Kyouko maids are long gone to greener pastures, at least to their minds. It'd just be a matter of tracking them down. If this is how her familiars usually escape, she probably won't catch the maid anyway.

In the end I'm a hopeless romantic. I love the idea of helping a servant escape from her controlling and abusive master.

[X] Help the familiar escape Candeloro. It is the attacked party here, and if it's this desperate to get away from its master, you can't help but wonder if that might just be justified.
[X] Have Sayaka and Tira get out of sight. You don't want Candeloro forcing them back into her cottage the second she notices they left it.

The girls should get out of sight, yes. If she really does remember Ashtaroth I don't see them being a big help anyway, but she'll also likely remember Ashtaroth has a way of controlling Magical Girls. It's probably a fight no matter what, unfortunately.
 
<Candeloro doesn't seem to want to hurt you, but she also doesn't want you to leave.> you explain. <She therefore must still want something from you. Based on what she's been doing so far, I think it's for you two to be her "party guests". If that's all she wants though, then if you play along, she might just let you leave once the party is over.>
This is reasonable, but Ashy assumes that Candeloro will just end the party at some point. She's hosting a party because she wants guests, not the other way around.

Tira takes hold of her chopsticks for the first time and slowly lifts a mouthful of noodles to her lips. She freezes before letting it actually reach her mouth however, her hand simply holding the food in the air for several long, drawn out seconds.

<I don't see what you're still so worried about, Tira. Just eat.>

Seriously, from the way she's been acting about this, you'd think Candeloro was serving her and Sayaka visibly rotten food. Is she just a really picky eater or something?
Still worried about poison, or just disgusted at the idea of eating New Year food out of season?

...come to think of it, you really hope Candeloro doesn't try to eat the girls in turn or something once they've finished.
She might do that eventually, but only if they can't be convinced to stay and she fails to restrain them. She certainly won't be happy about it, but her final struggle against Ashy proved that keeping friends close is ultimately more important to her than keeping friends alive.

"Well, that's everything." Sayaka notes, looking around at the various empty dishes.

Candeloro seems to have realized this before Sayaka even said anything, one of her ribbons already in the process of beckoning yet another pair of familiars over.
Here's a big clue that the characters have overlooked. Candeloro is actively keeping her guests occupied so that they constantly have a reason to stay. She's not just going through the motions; she must quickly prepare something new for Sayaka and Tira when they finish teatime, not giving them even a second of boredom.

Sayaka looks up at Candeloro, who is once again expectantly watching the pair.

"Probably a safe bet, yeah." she sighs. "Let's just get this 'party' over with..."
Candeloro is probably expecting Sayaka to be happy, because that's what you're supposed to feel when you receive presents. She's grateful for having guests at all, of course, but seeing them unenthusiastically go with the flow just to humor her must be disheartening! Each time they show that they don't really want to be here, she dies a little inside, though she's doing her damnedest to ignore it because she's not giving up on making them happy.

Without any real enthusiasm, Sayaka tears open the present's carefully-wrapped packaging and roughly slides out the item within. Glancing down, she takes a single brief look at the object she's now holding... and involuntarily sucks in a breath.

Gripped within Sayaka's hands is a small framed picture, it's dimensions just slightly below that of a standard sheet of notebook paper. The frame itself is beautiful, made of a brilliantly golden metal with a great enough heft to make you wonder if it isn't actual, literal gold. Thin lines of silver filigree can be seen running throughout the material, forming swirling, abstract patterns that are almost invisible in the light. A long red ribbon has also been wrapped around two of the frame's corners, a tasteful addition to an already beautiful piece... but the frame could be made of mud for all that Sayaka seems to notice it. It's the picture within that's captured her attention — though slightly surreal and blurry-looking, it's still clearly recognizable as an image of her and Madoka, standing together with simultaneously scared and awed looks on their faces. For some reason, there's also a bunch of little mustachioed puffball things with butterflies for legs being blasted away in the background, and Madoka seems to be clutching Kyubey in her arms like a stray cat... erm, what is this?

"This is from the mall..." Sayaka breathes, as if having read your mind. "Back when Mami-san... saved us..."

Her gaze snaps up towards Tira. "Quick, open yours!"

Tira startles at Sayaka's almost frantic-sounding demand, but does as requested, nervously peeling back the wrapping of her own present until another framed picture is uncovered. Though the casing is identical to Sayaka's, the image within is different — this one depicts Tira with an expression of clear panic, knocked to the ground and cringing away from something that looks vaguely like a miniature radio tower set atop two bulging, cocoon-like legs fixed in a permanent kneeling position. Despite Tira's terrified visage, the radio tower appears to be keening sideways, as though having just taken a heavy blow from the same direction as the picture's perspective.

As soon as Tira sees what she's been given, she reacts in much the same way Sayaka did, gasping aloud and immediately fixating on the image.
Okay, this is very interesting. Candeloro failed to reach her guests through their stomachs, so now she's going for nostalgia instead. And though this certainly won't convince them to stay forever as intended, this attempt at giving them happiness and leaving a positive impression is much more successful than the last one.

Outside, you tilt your neck slightly to the side in confusion. Wait, these are pictures of the first times that Sayaka and Tira each met Mami? How does that make sense? She's not even in either of them... unless, you suppose, they're being viewed from her perspective?

...are these pictures of Mami's memories?

"Then, that means- no. I don't understand." Sayaka says as she glances up at the witch, apparently having come to the same conclusion as you. "You do remember us then?"

"And remember... yourself?" Tira hesitantly adds.
The memories survived in some form and Candeloro somehow figured that Sayaka and Tira would appreciate the presents, but this says little about what she remembers or how the recipients got exactly the right pictures. It's good that those memories can see the light of day, though.

Momentarily distracted, you focus in on the motion, spotting something slowly creeping out from behind one of the gift piles at the back of the room. What is- oh, just another maid familiar. Nothing worth letting yourself get sidetracked over... although, wait, this one looks slightly different from the others you've seen thus far. A third variant?

Marginally more interested now, you look a little closer, though the image you're getting from the side of a single eye isn't perfect. Judging by the shoulder-length auburn hair you can see fanning out around the familiar's neck, this one is based on Tira — you suppose you really should have expected that, after seeing the Sayaka ones. The redheads are probably based on someone Mami knew as well. For some reason though, the Tira-maid appears to be unique (or at least is the only one of its kind currently present in the room), and is unlike the other familiars in more than just hairstyle — not only does it lack the silver serving platter that otherwise seems standard, its limbs are also bereft of any ribbon wrappings, leaving both its hands and arms completely free. On a subtler note, you can just barely tell that instead of the wide, plastic smile all the other familiars are sporting, this one is actually frowning, the unique expression making it look oddly... tense?
How curious. In a normal timeline, Mami would have accepted Tira's absence in ignorance, secure with the hope of having other friends to cling to. Tira's unexpected return ruined that, and the resulting emotions caused this.

The ribbons represent the bonds of friendship and the subsequent need to stay attached and in control. This familiar lacks them because Tira freed herself from Mami, forcing Mami to learn how to live without her. Nevertheless, a treacherous friend is still a friend, so this familiar exists.

The Tira-maid abruptly sprints out of the corner and leaps forwards like an Olympian, soaring over almost half the room in a single bound before coming down directly in the center of the dining table. Sayaka and Tira both yelp in surprise, and Candeloro squeaks in much the same manner, but before anyone can react beyond that, the familiar jumps again, this time landing almost directly in front of the cottage door. Hang on, what-?

The Tira-maid begins to run the remaining few yards to the door. At the same time, Candeloro hastily gestures to the pair of maids standing guard next to the entrance, presumably directing them to intercept. The red and blue duo make no motion whatsoever to stop their auburn-haired counterpart however, and instead step away from the door before motioning towards it as if to spur their comrade on.
The maids embody the fear of losing friends, which is why they need to be bound. The Tira maid goes a step beyond that by actively defying her master: grabbing attention and then leaving, giving the guests the opening they need to escape. Which is interesting, because Tira is indirectly responsible for Ashy swiping Sayaka away from Mami. I'm starting to think Mami secretly resented her for that.

The Sayaka maid may be the least mutinous--Sayaka didn't leave Mami willingly or on purpose, after all--but that doesn't mean she doesn't want to leave, much less prevent the others from escaping.

In a flash, the rogue familiar throws the door open and bursts outside, running over the nearby rainbow bridge at a speed that none of the other familiars have shown thus far.
Somewhere... over the rainbow~

"Is that... me?" Tira gasps, her gaze locked on the increasingly distant familiar as it hurdles one of the massive teacups to land on the rainbow bridge beyond it.
Surprised to see herself among Mami's friends, or awed by her effigy's random badassery? Maybe she's wondering why her version is not like the others.
Well, that was fun. The rogue familiar evaporated the tension that built up over the course of the last few chapters. Candeloro isn't going anywhere, so Ashy can continue investigating witch psychology at any time.

From what I know of PMMM familiars both help and harm their master, they usually harm them by carrying out their worst nightmare while keeping them safe from any intruder.
This doesn't necessarily translate to antagonizing the witch. It can also mean enabling her, appealing to her vices, or being relied on for unreliable help.


[X] Just leave. Not permanently or anything, but this doesn't seem like the best time to be doing anything with Candeloro, period. As long as she doesn't notice you going, a tactical retreat doesn't seem unreasonable right now.
[X] Smuggle Sayaka and Tira away in Novella.
 
[X] Sit tight and wait until this is finished. Whatever is going on right now doesn't actually have anything to do with you, so you probably shouldn't interfere. You can conduct your business with Candeloro after she's finished with her own.
[X] Have Sayaka and Tira get out of sight. You don't want Candeloro forcing them back into her cottage the second she notices they left it.
 
Sayaka and Tira are just staring at Candeloro now, seemingly at a loss for words — evidently they're no more certain what to think about any this than you are.
"any of this"
If we don't intervene, nothing is going to change. Which means... what? That Candeloro would find and return the stray? This wasn't how the story went, but there has to be some way of things returning to the status-quo in absense of external factors. So she captures the runaway; then it eventually escapes, and it goes on and on.

Maybe we could help her then. It wouldn't change the result, but may cause a reaction. Hopefully a more positive one than we would otherwise get.

[x] Help Candeloro retrieve her familiar. You still want to try and talk to her yourself, and it's best to make a good first impression, right? Or a good second impression, at least?
 
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"any of this"
If we don't intervene, nothing is going to change. Which means... what? That Candeloro would find and return the stray? This wasn't how the story went, but there has to be some way of things returning to the status-quo in absense of external factors. So she captures the runaway; then it eventually escapes, and it goes on and on.

Maybe we could help her then. It wouldn't change the result, but may cause a reaction. Hopefully a more positive one than we would otherwise get.

[x] Help Candeloro retrieve her familiar. You still want to try and talk to her yourself, and it's best to make a good first impression, right? Or a good second impression, at least?
While you're not wrong you are forgetting who's witch that is, I don't think fighting Mami's witch without knowing more of her combat capabilities is the right option especially since depending on the witch they can be even more OP then when they were magical girls. Hence we watch how she handles gather her familiars so we have more combat capability. I'm still up for changing my vote if you can give me a good enough reason, I'm mostly going this route because the last witch we tried to talk to fuking nailed us hard.
 
[x] Ignore the chase. Use this time to stick all of Candeloro's furnishings to her cottage's ceiling and balance a bucket of water on a string above her door. Then pick up her cottage(remember that your magical girls can augment their strength, and Tira can make constructs), rotate it one-hundred-and-eighty degrees, then paint a door on it. Finally, spraypaint "Homura Wuz Here!" over her presents pile.
-[x] ooh ooh ooh! Also naughty doodles on her tea set!
 
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The maids embody the fear of losing friends, which is why they need to be bound. The Tira maid goes a step beyond that by actively defying her master: grabbing attention and then leaving, giving the guests the opening they need to escape. Which is interesting, because Tira is indirectly responsible for Ashy swiping Sayaka away from Mami. I'm starting to think Mami secretly resented her for that.
Mami outright blames Tira for what happened to Sayaka.
"I encountered that same witch late last night." Tira explained. "Shizuki-san is telling the truth; it really did seem intelligent. It did not actually fight me, only plead that it could think, and begged me not to kill it."

"…so you didn't." Hitomi finished for her, eyes widening in surprise.

Tira nodded, and Mami felt a flash of anger run through her. The other girl had shown mercy to something that almost certainly did not deserve it, and as a result, Sayaka was now in grave peril. The witch's actions obviously weren't Tira's fault, but the fact remained that this conversation would not be happening had she simply eliminated it when she had the chance.
She couches it a little and doesn't say it out loud, but she lays no small amount of fault at Tira's feet. This is in addition to Tira having been someone who did in fact cut off contact with her intentionally, as opposed to dying or crossing a moral line with her.

She still cares about Tira, as seen with the memory pictures, but her feelings were probably complex and unsorted before Mami thought Charlotte killed her and witched. As she is now, well, lets just say I don't envy that Familiar if Candeloro catches her.
 
[X] Help the familiar escape Candeloro. It is the attacked party here, and if it's this desperate to get away from its master, you can't help but wonder if that might just be justified.
[X] Have Sayaka and Tira get out of sight. You don't want Candeloro forcing them back into her cottage the second she notices they left it.
 
[:V] Help the familiar escape Candeloro. It is the attacked party here, and if it's this desperate to get away from its master, you can't help but wonder if that might just be justified.
- [:V] By eating it.
 
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