[x] Compromise by accepting Tira's suggestion to go to Kazamino.

This seems reasonable enough, and likely to cause sufficient chaos; it will hopefully also satisfy Sayaka.

Also, assuming that Sayaka/Tira were duplicated, this invokes interesting questions regarding their souls identity in a philosophical sense.
 
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This is a rather interesting chapter (generally great, as always)!

Firstly, I'm increasingly convinced that the "witch of control" hypothesis is correct, with Ashtaroth getting more control over her reality as her power grows... complete with friends who will never leave or hurt her.

Second, Ashy's role of giving information this chapter seems to mark her progression towards being an "elite" of the Magical Girl world. Once, she was floundering about like the rest, but increasingly she leads and others follow.
 
"Madoka, it's me!" Sayaka exclaims as soon as the tone goes off. "I don't know why you can't pick up your phone right now, but listen! Whatever you do, stay away from the transfer student, and DO NOT make a contract! Kyubey lied about- about everything! I'm still alive, but things have somehow gotten even worse, and we're in a completely different city now, and- arrrrrgh, there's too much for me to explain over a voicemail message! Just, call me back at this number, okay?!"

I would probably spend 30 minutes pacing around from exitement if I had the chance to read Madoka's reaction to this. Like, it'll be a sight to behold whether this timeline's Sayaka merged with ours or she's still around.

[X] Compromise by accepting Tira's suggestion to go to Kazamino.

I kinda want to to go scare Hirako, but I'm not sure if that would be wise. Gosh, if we meet Kyoko this will become a trainwreck. Also, this update was great.
 
SQUEE!

I strenuously recommend a general principal of starting with the bad news. The news "You no longer need to hunt witches!" might elicit a response poorly suited to "But now you are stuck living with one.". She also never showed Tira her page in Novella? Getting a Witch->Japanese translation project started would give them something to get busy over. Those long journeys can be boring...
[x]While going somewhere, ask about the other's magic, and go into detail about your own. Especially the descriptions you get in Novella.
I must say, having all of Sayaka's calls go to voice mail felt a little artificial.
One of their best friends just spontaneously dropped dead in front of them. They are in no mood to take calls. Or the transfer student just took them hostage in an effort to determine where a bunch of her soul went. Or both...
 
That went shockingly well. Tira, are you trying to be Best Girl? Because you're hitting a lot of my buttons on that front. She knew a hell of a lot more then most girls, and it seems like she mostly figured it out on her own. It's almost suspicious.

Still, it's very sad that she considereds being a Witch's familiar an overall improvement to her lot in life. No friends, no family she sees, not even an attachment to her home... though, if Ash heads for Kazamino, I suppose she could grab some of her stuff. She has to care about some of it. It'd be too sad if she didn't.

[X] Compromise by accepting Tira's suggestion to go to Kazamino.

Makes the most sense. Need to at least try to follow up on that lead, and Sayaka does have a point. I do think she should call first though. In fact, she'll have to if she wants to set something up.
I must say, having all of Sayaka's calls go to voice mail felt a little artificial. It seems like the story is being bent hard to keep them from realizing that they're in the past. I don't even get the point in doing so; why not get the revelation out of the way so it spurs them to different actions?
Really? It makes sense to me. It's an unknown number from another city. To me, that screams scam line. I never pick up calls like that.
One of their best friends just spontaneously dropped dead in front of them. They are in no mood to take calls. Or the transfer student just took them hostage in an effort to determine where a bunch of her soul went. Or both...
I still think that makes no sense. If that's the case, then Mitakihara also just had Mami go poof, along with Tira and Sayaka. Like, that would be rather telling that something was amiss to Kuybey, and that would badly limit Ashtaroth and her crew's actions, which is lame. Homura too, since she'd also have popped in out of nowhere. And it would mean would couldn't meet and subsum the human and witch counterparts of Ash's merry band.
 
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I strenuously recommend a general principal of starting with the bad news. The news "You no longer need to hunt witches!" might elicit a response poorly suited to "But now you are stuck living with one.".
The thing is, that sort of approach can be literally terminal when talking to Magical Girls she hasn't subsumed. It definitely isn't a good idea for Astaroth to get used to using this approach in conversations when the main party she tends to talk with can witch-spiral from it.
 
If that's the case, then Mitakihara also just had Mami go poof, along with Tira and Sayaka.
We have no confirmation that Charlotte and Mami tagged along. At most, their barriers were subsumed, and we know from Saar that it can go further than that, but given that Ashtaroth never "ate" the barriers, and there is no mention of them in Novella, I would say it was just companion magic, or a natural witch-meeting thing, and they were not closely linked enough to be pulled into the time-loop. And Tira was low-profile.
telling that something was amiss to Kuybey,
Ehh, stuff happens, Kyuddles isn't everywhere. It is an anomaly, yes, but so is Homura, and she still got to get up to plenty of mischief. There is also nothing to link it to us. We never met any of those girls. We were minding our business, freshly hatching all the way over here, way away from all those spontaneous corpses. At this level it probably isn't even noticed. a couple of girls, one of them not even on the list, just vanished, and a witch too, KeyouBa could miss it. Even later on, so long as there are no obvious demographics drawing a line back to us, we should be able to avoid any overt "it must have been this witch" unless they catch us in the act.

This is all speculation, yes, but it seems like speculation is all that we have at this point. Speculation, the scene of Homura waking up after looping, the gang in Ashtaroth's inner sanctum, and the telephone calls.
 
Ever since I read about PMMM I've wanted to see a witch MC, thank you for scratching that itch.

[x] Compromise by accepting Tira's suggestion to go to Kazamino.
 
I doubt that Hitomi's SAN score survived unscathed.
I disagree. Hitomi is perfectly fine because time travel. Memories cross over at least subconsciously, but Hitomi wouldn't remember it as anything more than a crazy dream, so it wouldn't affect her too much unless she has a reason to believe that it was even remotely real.

No, I'd say Sayaka's SAN score is a much better example.

...

New chapter? Merry Christmas, probably! :V

> Bring Tira back out of Novella.

You suppose you have one obvious course of action, at least. If she's going to be along for this ride — which she will be, seeing as she has no real choice in the matter anymore — you should probably get Tira out here and explain both your and her circumstances to her.
A wise choice, probably. Tira is relatively levelheaded, so she wouldn't freak out too easily. Besides, might as well just get it over with. And though Ashy and Charlie are okay friends, something tells me that Sayaka needs a different kind of companion.

"I… assume that was telepathy, but I thought you claimed you could only use that if you…"
<Yeah, well Kyubey can kiss my hardcover bottom.> :V

"There… does not appear to be a floor…"
Well, that makes sense. The floor looks exactly the same as everything else, making it seem as if there is no floor. Even when the Canvas is blank, it is subject to optical illusions.

Tira's mouth falls open as you shift the appearance of the Canvas to that of an open-air temple in the center of a valley, surrounded on all sides by steep, sloping hills covered in various bizarre-looking flora. The pillars of the temple are engraved with glowing symbols of no obvious origin, which seem to emit a quiet but constant hum into the surrounding air, and the ambient buzz of insects can be heard coming from the many nearby plants.
Tira must be very jealous. Ashy has exactly the power she wanted, right?

Why do your illusions suddenly seem to have sound now? You don't get it.
I've been wondering that, myself. I'm fairly sure I know the mechanics of the sound, but not the reason for its sudden manifestation.

There's a short pause, before Tira suddenly breaks out into stunned, disbelieving laughter. It soon turns increasingly joyous, and a smile wide enough to make her cheeks hurt stretches across the girl's face, as if she was just told the most fantastic news of her life.
Ashy made her curse sound awesome by successfully downplaying the "I OWN YOUR SOUL NOW" problem. Her experience with Sayaka probably taught her a lot about what to say and how to say it. Tira's desire to live freely without relying on hunting witches certainly doesn't hurt, though.

"I heard it all just fine." Sayaka says flatly.

Huh. Really? You weren't directing any of that at her intentionally. You guess your telepathy must just automatically go out to both of them then? Strange…
That's because you're talking to yourself, silly!

"I-" Tira starts, before pausing and looking up at you. "-forgive me, what was your name again?"

<Ashtaroth.>

"...right. I will try to keep that in mind if I am going to be here for the foreseeable future." Tira says.
Everyone except Tira will get Ashy's name wrong. I just know it.

"I did not always suspect, but there was… a rumor…"

<-wait, rumors?> you interrupt. <What rumors?>

"Just the one, really." Tira replies. "It was circulating around my school for some time. I was not certain it was even about magical girls at first, but the details seemed to match up too well to be entirely coincidental. I could not put a great deal of faith in simple gossip of course, but…"

She raises her head and looks up at you again, her gaze roaming around the various parts of your body. "…it seems that it was quite correct."
How curious. Who spread this rumor?

<What did this rumor say, exactly?> you ask.

Tira doesn't seem entirely sure why you're asking, but answers all the same. "I am afraid I cannot remember the exact wording, but from what I recall, the rumor obliquely referred to how a small creature may one day appear to you, and offer you your heart's desire. It went on however to say that this was a trick, and that anyone who accepted the offer would soon find themselves drowning in despair, until the darkness of their soul was… 'unleashed', I believe was how it was phrased."
Wait, something's missing...


Much better. Yes, I know it's not that kind of rumor.

"Can we at least go somewhere with a phone then?!"

"I have a cell phone in my normal clothes..." Tira says slowly, her dizziness abating with the return of the floor.
I clearly remember mentioning this idea upthread. Was that my invention or a prediction?

"Um… hello?"

"Madoka! It's-"

"You've reached the phone number of Madoka Kaname. I'm sorry I can't talk to you right now, but if you leave a quick message, I promise I'll call you back as soon as I can!"

"Oh come on, pick up Madoka!"

Sayaka hangs up and redials, but only ends up back at the voicemail message again. Becoming increasingly tense, she tries another number, and gets a very similar recording from Hitomi.

"Why is no one answering?!" Sayaka almost screams.
My guess is that the barrier is blocking the signal?

"Madoka, it's me!" Sayaka exclaims as soon as the tone goes off. "I don't know why you can't pick up your phone right now, but listen! Whatever you do, stay away from the transfer student, and DO NOT make a contract! Kyubey lied about- about everything! I'm still alive, but things have somehow gotten even worse, and we're in a completely different city now, and- arrrrrgh, there's too much for me to explain over a voicemail message! Just, call me back at this number, okay?!"
If that message gets through, Homura will be very angry and maybe also confused. It has the benefit of discouraging a contract, but may make it harder for Homura to properly protect Madoka.

As she does, you notice that the time display currently reads a half-hour past noon, and do a mental double take.
Ah, she finally noticed. Good thing the phone's clock is synced to the actual time, because it's a good clue and I'm pretty sure phone clocks actually work that way.

"Something's wrong." Sayaka says before you can think too much about it, anxiously pacing in a small circle. "I'm still not feeling anything with my… knight sense, or whatever you're calling it, but could you hurry up with your 'planning' so we can get back to Mitakihara?"
"I can tell that nobody is in danger, therefore something is wrong." I get the idea, but the way it's used is weird.

<I'm sorry Sayaka, but my life cannot literally revolve around yours, especially when by doing so it's entirely possible I won't have a life to live for much longer.>
See, this is the part of the curse I was talking about. Their lives aren't their own anymore, not to mention that Ashy is physically incapable of being several functional humans in normal society at a time.



[X] Compromise by accepting Tira's suggestion to go to Kazamino.

While I can't accept going to Mitakihara in the near future, I figure that going to a nearby city is close enough. And if I'm right about how the time travel works, Tira will get to meet another Tira, so that will be interesting. Plus, there's Kyoko, Sasa, Yuma, Miyako... Lots of magical girls to run into.
 
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While I can't accept going to Mitakihara in the near future, I figure that going to a nearby city is close enough. And if I'm right about how the time travel works, Tira will get to meet another Tira, so that will be interesting. Plus, there's Kyoko, Sasa, Yuma, Miyako... Lots of magical girls to run into.
You know, I'm more interested about the possibility of them meeting their witch selves. Who knows what such interactions would result! Would us subsuming said witch form allow them to transform between their magical girl and their witch forms at will? Can they remain aware of themselves in their witch form, or does their personality become inactive?
 
Firstly, I'm increasingly convinced that the "witch of control" hypothesis is correct, with Ashtaroth getting more control over her reality as her power grows... complete with friends who will never leave or hurt her.
My vague symbolism sense tells me that this has something to do with Ashy's growth and mutation.

Second, Ashy's role of giving information this chapter seems to mark her progression towards being an "elite" of the Magical Girl world. Once, she was floundering about like the rest, but increasingly she leads and others follow.
So you're telling me that Ashy's path to power is to become a super grimoire of infohazardous exposition? Sounds pretty cool, actually.

I kinda want to to go scare Hirako, but I'm not sure if that would be wise.
I don't see why not. Ashtaroth is now three people (or four, depending how you're counting), and Hirako works alone. So Ashy has a clear advantage in numbers, and Hirako probably isn't strong enough to overcome it.

Gosh, if we meet Kyoko this will become a trainwreck.
Hm. Kyoko trained under Mami for a while, but Ashy doubled in mass. I wonder who would win in single combat...

The news "You no longer need to hunt witches!" might elicit a response poorly suited to "But now you are stuck living with one.".
You no longer need to hunt witches, but you are stuck living with one. Will you press the button? :V

Getting a Witch->Japanese translation project started would give them something to get busy over.
Start with the fact that witch runes are functionally identical to the Latin alphabet, then work your way up from there.

Proper terminology, please! It's called a harem. :V

The thing is, that sort of approach can be literally terminal when talking to Magical Girls she hasn't subsumed. It definitely isn't a good idea for Astaroth to get used to using this approach in conversations when the main party she tends to talk with can witch-spiral from it.
Pushing magical girls to the brink is generally a great way to stop them from attacking. But it's a bad idea, considering they'll inevitably become permanent residents when Ashy wins.

We have no confirmation that Charlotte and Mami tagged along.
They can grow clones from generated familiars if their labyrinths carried over, but that would take time and humans.

There is also nothing to link it to us. We never met any of those girls. We were minding our business, freshly hatching all the way over here, way away from all those spontaneous corpses.
Reports of one Sayaka Miki outside Mitakihara is damning evidence, whether or not a new Sayaka takes the place of the previous one. But exactly what that evidence suggests is a riddle for the ages, provided that Kyubey doesn't figure out Homura's time manipulation.

Then how would she get the answering machine? Or voicemail service, depending on how it's set up.
Good point. Unknown Caller it is, then. Wow, Madoka (and Sayaka?) is going to freak out.
 
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Contradictory question. It's not really "hearing text" so much as having words shoved into one's brain, so there's not really a sound to them. If this was being presented in an anime format or some such, I imagine it would still be expressed through words/subtitles regardless of the language used (though they'd probably be accompanied by some manner of whispery, maybe echoey sound effect that can still express tone without sounding like actual words).

I'm now picturing Ashy's "voice" as sounding like a cross between zalgo text and Animal Crossing gibberish-ese. :V

Or acquire Kyouko, with a possible side of Yuma.

Isn't Charlotte's barrier edible? Kyouko would totes move in just for that.

Yuma is a side dish?!

depends on how hungry Kyouko is
 
Yuma is a side dish?!

Maybe she's the apperitive?

Let's see:
Tira is the salad and Sayaka is the seasoning, Kyoko is the meat, Hitomi is the white bread, Mami is the cheese, Oriko is the wine, Kirika is the silverware (which, for some reason, only consist of knives), Charlotte is the cake, Madoka is the chair and Homura is the bill.

...Ashy is the table.
 
Just a reminder, this is only slightly a quest. Slightly a quest is still mostly a fic. Plain votes are unlikely to do much. Interesting justifications for votes or write-ins have some potential, as I understand it.

That's because you're talking to yourself, silly!
Why can we not rate posts "ouch". It is clearly needed.

... I wonder if Ashtaroth's wish was something along the lines of being the star of her own story. With a twist leading to pulling other people into her story too. But... It is difficult to combine that with her wish magic being self-polymorph and her witch magic being illusion. But it would sort-of fit with her hating the people(familiars) who help her, what with them drawing away the spotlight. ... Tell her own story, with her being the star that everyone else has to follow? "Make" her own story?

[x] Raid Charlotte's barrier for more bedding, and food, and pillow forts, and plus-sized pillow forts, not that we are getting too big or anything!
 
Proper terminology, please! It's called a harem.
Not until Ash has a human body. One that's for her and only her, of which getting one is now higher up on the itinerary. Which I didn't quite see coming, but makes sense. Communication problems aside, Ashtaroth is really only okay with her witch form because it's what she has. It's building sized, kinda slow, kinda frail and super flammable. It's visually interesting and has a neat built in encyclopedia, but it's only got entries on things she's eaten. Humans are smaller, much faster and have thumbs. No contest.

But also communication. One of Ashtaroth's bigger problems is that she can't talk without using someone else as a mouth piece, which doesn't make anyone comfortable. Most of what she has to say isn't problematic, outside of usual MG pitfalls. She pretty much acts like a blunt girl with a talent for phrasing things badly. Stck her in a body with a cute face and she'd be someone's Best Girl.
Yuma is a side dish?!
More like a second éntree.
Isn't Charlotte's barrier edible? Kyouko would totes move in just for that.
Yeah but she's also distrustful and belligerent. Need to get past that first, or make it a nonissue.
 
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