Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)

What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?

  • Mercy (Diplomacy and Expansion)

    Votes: 228 74.8%

  • Ruthlessness (Kick the Duchy in the Balls)

    Votes: 69 22.6%

  • Thule (Yeeni Handholding and Piscarian Cuddling)

    Votes: 118 38.7%
  • Total voters
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Kpatrol88 said:
Actually, @HeroCooky, if the Dutchy were to set off a null pulse close to our larger ships, will that also completely kill the crews there too? Or was it just because our strikecraft are generally more vulnerable to its effects?
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You don't know.
Weaving_Dreamer said:
Also @HeroCooky thinking on it, would Logistical Infantry-Grade weapons and armor development research result in being able to field more SAG's because of the decrease in costs? or just make it less painful for raising them/replacing their equipment.
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It would do both of that, yes.
Enerael said:
@HeroCooky would using half the DP of a light freighter halve its cost like with Scouts?
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No. You ideally want to flirt with as much DP as you can, even into the Negatives, for freighters.
 
The Laurent said:
To clarify, my argument for evacuation first is that if we don't know what kind of resources we'll be able/have to muster for an evacuation fleet, we won't know how much terraforming we'll need to do and so on.
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My argument for terraforming first is that terraforming is likely to require a lot of time before it pays dividends, and we need to get on it as early as possible - and evacuation only helps if we have somewhere to evacuate people to where they won't starve.
 
sun tzu said:
My argument for terraforming first is that terraforming is likely to require a lot of time before it pays dividends, and we need to get on it as early as possible - and evacuation only helps if we have somewhere to evacuate people to where they won't starve.
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We already do, partially? We can probably stash a few billion with only, like... big societal disruptions but well within the framework of, "Man, things change don't they" at each system.

That won't be ENOUGH, to be clear, but that's why we have both the Terraforming and the Space Station options to explore.
 
The Laurent said:
That won't be ENOUGH, to be clear, but that's why we have both the Terraforming and the Space Station options to explore.
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I think we are closer then most suspect

There are multiple parrallel plans to make the hive better able to feed itself some more complete then others:
1: Make the hive able to feed itself:
  1. two research projects: one done, one in the leading plans this turn
  2. Food production in the underhive we have taken: in progess growing as they expand
2: Take over the agri worlds
  1. Infiltrate them to reduce damage during the war: in progress by creating the propaganda in the leading plan
  2. We have a autoticker providing 4 war packs per 2 turns to help take these worlds
3: Reduce population
  1. Losses during the fighting
  2. Move population in our troop transports(and soon we design dedicated freighters for this)
  3. The existing worlds have been warned this will happen so they should be building housing and supporting infrastructure to prepare
 
Personally I'm voting for Terraforming because I see it as the most likely to get slow automatic action trickle like Every World a Fortress. It's certainly not a given but it seems the more likely one to slowly be done in the background.
 
[X] Plan: Each Piece of the Puzzle--Terraforming This Turn, Evacuation Next Turn
-[X] Hive Agriculture Expanded (0/2) x2 (1 Free Research Point)
-[X] Irrita Rush Terraformation (0/?)
-[X] [General] Propaganda For The Foreign Masses (0/3)
 
Incidentally, my thought for a System Rescue Group would be:

1x Heavy Cruiser (Evacuation)*
1x Heavy Cruiser (Mercy/Supplies)
4-6x Light Freighter (Mercy/Aid/Propaganda)
1x SS Rustbucket "Andromeda" Destroyer.

This would be 64-70 FP [As compared to 42 FP for a generic build action], so with the discounts created by an "SRG" system [See what we get with SBG], we would be able to probably get each group for a single action, and we'd want to have, like, 4-6 SRGs or whatnot.

*Can be changed to 2x Mercy
 
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    • Scheduled vote count started by HeroCooky on Jun 28, 2024 at 1:28 PM, finished with 47 posts and 30 votes.
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    • 766.M42 - 147 Potential Candidates
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    • "Could...you repeat that?" Diplomat Argent Joy slowly said, blinking as she tried to parse the information the Irrita had freely given her once more. "Did you say that there are 17 planets in our territory that can be terraformed?"

    "Of course," the Irrita Song-of-Growth spoke again through the communicator and interpreter, the scents used to communicate tickling Argent Joy's nose. "After a search through the provided planetary information dockets you gave, we have identified 147 potential candidates for terraforming, of which 17 have the required materials and pre-cursors present or nearby in enough abundance to make undergoing the process within the next 80-to-250 years possible without excessive investment into infrastructure."

    "...okay, that is...far more than I had assumed there would be. Could you point out which ones are the 17 candidates for quick terraformation?"

    "Of course:"
    (6-Hour Moratorium)
    (Choose 1)
    [] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
    [] Amut - (Target Biosphere: Volcanic Basalt Lichen) - (Maximum Population: 10 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~80 Years)
    [] Litra - (Target Biosphere: Ice Bog) - (Maximum Population: 15 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~160 Years)
    [] Trif - (Target Biosphere: Lilypad Ocean) - (Maximum Population: 20 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~250 Years)
    [] Ivuh - (Target Biosphere: Planetary Mangroves) - (Maximum Population: 18 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~180 Years)
    [] Scil - (Target Biosphere: Petrified Woods and New Growth Forests) - (Maximum Population: 35 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~230 Years)
    [] Yeogawa - (Target Biosphere: Flowering Abdundance) - (Maximum Population: 46 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~220 Years)
    [] Maphara - (Target Biosphere: Tepui and Cenote) - (Maximum Population: 101 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~200 Years)
    [] Nurn - (Target Biosphere: Fog Mountains) - (Maximum Population: 27 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~170 Years)
    [] Git - (Target Biosphere: Megaflora) - (Maximum Population: 36 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~160 Years)
    [] Ixcat - (Target Biosphere: Wet Tidally Locked) - (Maximum Population: 16 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~160 Years)
    [] X-14/RHO - (Target Biosphere: Dry Caves) - (Maximum Population: 9 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~190 Years)
    [] Bob - (Target Biosphere: Badlands) - (Maximum Population: 11 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~110 Years)
    [] Nushar - (Target Biosphere: Dry Forests and Steppes) - (Maximum Population: 22 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~150 Years)
    [] Llolanov - (Target Biosphere: Temperate Forests and Mild Arctic) - (Maximum Population: 9 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~140 Years)

    AN: These will be able to be terraformed with another Action but no additional cost in a Turn.
     
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    • [] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
    [] Maphara - (Target Biosphere: Tepui and Cenote) - (Maximum Population: 101 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~200 Years)

    I think for this go around, one of these two? In some ways, Howling Gale is a better bet for time. Sure it holds less, but we'll also be building some Void Stations too to hold people.
     
    All that aside, what's "Target Ecosystem?" Is that "What it is right now" or is it "What we're going to make it into?"
     
    Incredible!

    Amut probably good as it might be done in time to be relevant for the hive.

    Also Howling Gale will have a Black-Sky Myconid biosphere. MUSHROOM KINGDOM
     
    DecaffeinatedOwl said:
    One action per planet?
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    Yes, one per Planet. Colonization included. No additional terraformation costs included.
    Alectai said:
    All that aside, what's "Target Ecosystem?" Is that "What it is right now" or is it "What we're going to make it into?"
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    The latter.
    ConfusedCanuck said:
    Holy 147 terraforming candidates in our territory? Thats a lot jeez.
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    I mean, we can, right now IRL, see how one could terraform Venus of all places, and how that planet is a far better candidate for that than, say, Mars. So yes, there are a lot of places where planets can be terraformed if one wishes.
     
    HeroCooky said:
    Yes, one per Planet. Colonization included. No additional terraformation costs included.
    The latter.
    I mean, we can, right now IRL, see how one could terraform Venus of all places, and how that planet is a far better candidate for that than, say, Mars. So yes, there are a lot of places where planets can be terraformed if one wishes.
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    ... The fuck is "Black Sky Myconid?"

    I mean, I can see what the words mean in context, but is that implying "We're basically going to make an atmosphere on an airless rock with magic fungus?"
     
    [] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)

    I think Howling Gale is our best bet in terms of, "Population vs. Terraformation Time."
     
    [] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)
    would be my target, but fear that voxx fight starts before that.

    For the evacuation fleet i would go for:
    1x Heavy Freighter(Titanic Civilian Transportation Holdx2,Titanic Emergency Relief Cargo Holdsx1) all points used
    4-6x Light Freighter (Large Civilian Transportation Hold(9)/Large Emergency Relief Cargo Holds(9),Large Mobile Civilian Manufactory(5)) 23 out 25 points
    1x Freighter (Propaganda/FLT/Orders of the Guiding Hands/Medical) Light Freighter(one point over but i like to see what that results in).
     
    The Laurent said:
    [] Howling Gale - (Target Biosphere: Black-Sky Myconoid) - (Maximum Population: 50 Billion) - (Terraformation Time: ~120 Years)

    I think Howling Gale is our best bet in terms of, "Population vs. Terraformation Time."
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    At least for our first one, that's actually a meaningful dent in the Hive's population. I think as long as we can cut the population there down in half, we can likely get out of crisis mode. That'll probably be coming online in time for it to be useful at least.
     
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