Wouldn't it be better to sandardize Ship Shrines? Since that's something we always take it would be an effective extar DP across the board.
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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Okay, 2 research and fleet build up. But we *really* need to start on the Heresies. *Soon*. We can't keep on putting it off.
We eat a doctrinal penalty to Autoloaders, so they are two points if we use them, Standardization ignores it according to what coockie said last time, so Autoloaders would be saving 2 DP instea dof the 1 Of anything else we pick.
Otherwise I would Be campaigning for one of Armoured escape pods, Ship shrines, Advanced alloying or Tuned shields instead, Because we put those on EVERYTHING
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Alectai
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Autoloaders cost us 2 DP, Ship Shrines are worth one. Literally the only ship in the fleet that doesn't benefit from Autoloaders is the Libra-T, which is already almost perfect as a design and would require a fundamental advance in our technological paradigm to be worth a revisit at this point.
imagine of some alpha legion marines "borrowed" one of our stealth ships and reverse engineered it . . .
So anyways, with the war against Chaos gits heating up, we may want to do a write-in Faith action once we've gotten the Heresies under control because we really don't want to come to blows with the Mashan. And if we leave things be after Chaos is defeated we'll likely end up at war with them because the Federation is a fanatic spiritualist that will attempt to convert everyone.
The Mashan obviously has a religion that provides at least some protection against the predation of Chaos it seems like.
We might be able to nudge things in a direction that foreign religion can be tested and if they show some degree of protection from Chaos for the Travelers following said religion then we shouldn't try to *force* conversion on them. We'll still preach and everything but a crusade of forced conversion is a no-no. Worship of the Star Child in some manner is of course mandatory for humans because the Star Child is from humanity after all.
The Mashan obviously has a religion that provides at least some protection against the predation of Chaos it seems like.
We might be able to nudge things in a direction that foreign religion can be tested and if they show some degree of protection from Chaos for the Travelers following said religion then we shouldn't try to *force* conversion on them. We'll still preach and everything but a crusade of forced conversion is a no-no. Worship of the Star Child in some manner is of course mandatory for humans because the Star Child is from humanity after all.
Oh right, as strange was it would be seeing the captured and purified/sanctified ships that are normally used by chaos, Xenos (our ships), and Imperial design, with the Lamenters in there, you kinda just shrug and assume Imperium. Still with all of that they view the Lamenters as the standard Imperium where the mere idea you wouldn't just murder a xeno as hersey.... I can see why. Its been around 500 or 600 years at this point of being cut off and you kinda assume the SpaceMarines are the ones from the Stories and Legends. which include the zealots and purging of the heretics which they would be for accepting help from xenos and given its the Imperium... that's a death sentence.
Still you'd think seeing the Xenos and somewhat Chaos ships with them would tip them off or is it just a 'haven't processed it' yet and don't want to risk prodding it since the Space Marines are right there?
maybe we should make another stealth ship but meant for offense or just more of the current one. Could you imagine another 4-6 of these given to the Lamenters? how many can they carry? though lets try to avoid the Slaughter House 3 scenario with sending them too deep behind enemy lines.
Still you'd think seeing the Xenos and somewhat Chaos ships with them would tip them off or is it just a 'haven't processed it' yet and don't want to risk prodding it since the Space Marines are right there?
HAHAHA, that's great. I can only imagine how it is with the Lamenters seemingly teleporting in, recking everything, dipping out, and just unable to be found at all. Were there taunts as all? or teabagging? Also can anyone think of any tech or equipment we can give to the Lamenters that can fit aboard the stealth ship to increase their effectiveness?
maybe we should make another stealth ship but meant for offense or just more of the current one. Could you imagine another 4-6 of these given to the Lamenters? how many can they carry? though lets try to avoid the Slaughter House 3 scenario with sending them too deep behind enemy lines.
HeroCooky
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You are right in the fact that, since they have been out of contact with the Imperium for nearly 400 Years, and due to the fact that Space Marines are The Poster Boys of the Imperium, they are operating on "They Can Do That" levels of cognitive dissonance. Kinda like how IRL people can be shown evidence of something and go: "Nah, didn't happen/isn't real."
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so the ships they are summoning, do we know if they are chaos pirate fleets being warped in, assets the chaos lord had outside of the subsector, freshly bought dark mech ships transported via ritual or are they outright conjuring hulls via profound warp fuckery? Since each of those has specific implications for how they will act.
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Do we have any idea what those limits look like, or will we only find out once we make a Song with too many Melodies?
The Chaos Warlord is likely bargaining the souls of the sacrificed for allegiance or services of various minor warbands I'm thinking. And also paying daemons in souls to transport said recruited warbands to the sector.
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HeroCooky
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Mayhaps. Mayhaps not. You'll see.
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I really wanna build more Knights in this next turn, since we're (hopefully) going to be getting their weapon unlocks finally, but I acknowledge that we're probably gonna need to do more Shipbuilding instead.
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Knights were a mistake /harsh truth
Also pls do Lamenters next turn. We haven't done an action for them for like centuries
Also pls do Lamenters next turn. We haven't done an action for them for like centuries
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@HeroCooky that one tech is gathering all the bonuses our ISC finds, how many turns until it starts rising in reasearc costs?
No they weren't. I don't know where you all get this idea from. They've been working fine wherever we send them.
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I more meant they were a massive opportunity cost since we could had gotten other rewards that needed less investment than Knights and we still need to give more actions to Knights to make a return on investment on them. Like they're doing fine for what we have but I can't help but feel like they were very much not worth not taking the Faith upgrade or the other option.
HeroCooky
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Oh, don't worry. If you get another Research Project, that will be shunted off into a new batch of Research instead of added to the Pile you already have.
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I presume they've been sitting around for 30 years doing extensive research on the potential capabilities of that specific exotic material they found, and getting more options each decade?
HeroCooky
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Not really, as that is a very risky thing to do without government grants (aka Research Actions). New Dawn R&D is mostly about getting out there and picking up cool rocks.
Does this mean our current pile is at maximun size?
HeroCooky
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That current pile is at the maximum of three. If you get another Research Thing next turn it'll go onto a new pile.
(Please keep in mind that I've already spoilered the Actions that are only available tomorrow, so I am talking with those in mind.)
Also; goodnight!
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[X] Plan: Amazing things come in fives.
-[X] Create a grouping of the devout, that is to say one Yeeni, one Kil'drabi, and humans from different groupings (the missionary-revolutionaries, the Thules, or the naval officers, or the SAGs, just three in total), who are to come to make a demonstration of them.
-[X] Doing it in Round-Robin style, line by line, they are to recite the Droman Creed, with the order of who says what carefully chosen for symbolic purpose (IE calling out the Emperor in the mouth of the Kil'drabi, the "its reach total as all unite in its sacred purpose regardless of species, appearance, or prior faith and creed" in the mouth of someone who looks like a standard Imperial, something about the Star Child in the mouth of a Tech Priest who would normally only rant about the Omnissiah, etc, etc.)
-[X] Each of the five is then to explain a different aspect of the Glimmering Federation and make a profession of their faith individual faith, telling their story/life story.
-[X] Finally, an explanation of the system, that is to say between the categories of "Ravagers" "Children" "Travelers" "Protectorates" and "Kin" and essentially ask them in which category these Xenos are to be accorded, by the beliefs of the Shipwright's Alliance, indicating trust for how they are classed by those who have more experience with them.
Okay well we probably will follow @The Laurent plan.
-[X] Create a grouping of the devout, that is to say one Yeeni, one Kil'drabi, and humans from different groupings (the missionary-revolutionaries, the Thules, or the naval officers, or the SAGs, just three in total), who are to come to make a demonstration of them.
-[X] Doing it in Round-Robin style, line by line, they are to recite the Droman Creed, with the order of who says what carefully chosen for symbolic purpose (IE calling out the Emperor in the mouth of the Kil'drabi, the "its reach total as all unite in its sacred purpose regardless of species, appearance, or prior faith and creed" in the mouth of someone who looks like a standard Imperial, something about the Star Child in the mouth of a Tech Priest who would normally only rant about the Omnissiah, etc, etc.)
-[X] Each of the five is then to explain a different aspect of the Glimmering Federation and make a profession of their faith individual faith, telling their story/life story.
-[X] Finally, an explanation of the system, that is to say between the categories of "Ravagers" "Children" "Travelers" "Protectorates" and "Kin" and essentially ask them in which category these Xenos are to be accorded, by the beliefs of the Shipwright's Alliance, indicating trust for how they are classed by those who have more experience with them.
Okay well we probably will follow @The Laurent plan.
We know that up to 6 melodies is safe, it's past that where we step into unknown territory. So it might be best to try to not try to go past 6 if we can help it