What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?


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Hey so I'm new to the quest just finished catching up. What's a thule? I've seen them.mentioned but I don't remember what they are.

Cloned female pilots, incredibly skilled, to the point that veteran Thules can match space marine pilots and the best of them can fly rings around space marine veterans. Make up something like 90% of the GlimFed fighter/bomber pilots, and that's a lot of people.

Very much a "This is what mere mortals can achieve" moment

Actually @HeroCooky what would be the reaction of a typical Space Marine chapter to the Thules? Both on and off the battlefield?
 
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Oh boy, between story tellers that can do warp buggery, to potential doom slayers, to going full hard core "I didn't hear no bell asshole"…dear lord I want all three.
 
More thoughts/questions.
1. How many of the rituals did we use up? Just one? Did our admirals figure out a counter? It's probably basically "Offer battle with our faster ships, then kite until the ritual runs out." If they're faster than we are that might not work. Hmm, tricky. Maybe distribute the ground armies amongst the fleets.
2. Less of a question, more of a statement. This still doesn't entirely counter us. Our frontliners actually have a fair number of anti-boarding defenses. Augmetic Security Department on the Phoenix's, Improved Internal Security Systems/Augmetic Security Department on the Lepus's & the Virgos. The Leos and Scorpios just have Improved Internal Security. The best ships are going to be the Lamenters.
3. We just straight-up lost 2/4 of our titans? Ouch. I'm guessing those aren't going to get replaced automatically. Given we spent 3 actions designing and building 4 of them, I wonder how many actions to replace them? This is the downside of titans.

As for the vote... seems like figuring out to some extent the motivating force of the Lamenters. Hope, Fury, or Duty.
[] Shards of Stained Glass
Seems like a vote for Hope, though with bits of grief and sacrifice mixed int.
[] The Burning Lament
Seems like a vote for Fury.
[] Duty Beyond Breaking
Seems like a vote for Duty, though it's got elements of hope.

Pretty sure I favor [] Duty Beyond Breaking after all, For those we Cherish, We die in Glory.
 
should we standarize anti-boarding fortifications in our ships?
it seems to be the preffered tactics of pretty much all factions once they cant beat on ship combat

it would be a instant ''FUCK YOU" to orkz,nurgle,khorne,slaneesh,dark eldar,post-imperial remmants etc
 
I mean, we did have Anti-Boarding on virtually our entire fleet, the problem is that Khorne is the best at CQC, and that ritual of theirs forces a ground battle in a void war.

Our high proliferation of Improved Internal Security and Augmetic Security Department is exactly why they didn't take out our entire god damn fleet with that stunt.
 
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[x] Shards of Stained Glass

All the others seem so sad... I don't want our yellow boys to lose their lust for life, if that makes sense.
 
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I'm surprised they had eight cyclonic torpedoes, that shit's supposed to actually be really damn hard to find, I hope that was basically their final gasp, because if this is the smallest of the Cults on the table, and they're giving us this much trouble, I have serious concerns about the future campaigns.

At least they can't actually use that "I force the battle into my favorite environment" button more than four more times, and we've got doctrine to blunt it now, and for all that first showing should have broken our back and stolen most of our tech for them, our high mobility combined with our high security proliferation limited our losses and it only slowed us, not stopped us.

Good god though, how long has the Watchtower faction just been letting these guys raid them? I hope this campaign shows them that they'd be better off under our umbrella.
 
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How many ships did we lose on that equation? Also yeah we need a Chaos ritual counter. Either that or we dump the actions needed into anti-psykana research and go from there
 
How many ships did we lose on that equation? Also yeah we need a Chaos ritual counter. Either that or we dump the actions needed into anti-psykana research and go from there

The counter to Chaos Rituals is "Don't let them cast the ritual", unfortunately, that's not really something we can do since they can do all the prepwork before ever making contact with us.

The other counter is what we're seeing here. "Find the loophole and exploit it maliciously"
 
So, we seem to have made headway into the Khornates territory, though the subsectors have gone into the Watchtower Confederacy for now.

The problem is that as soon as we finish with Khorne we run into the much bigger Nurglite cult. The work never ends.

Also, is that a second khornate cult in the lower right corner?
 
Yeah, the fact this is the weakest of the major Cults and we're struggling this much is concerning. I'm glad we got this data now, but it does give me my usual vague irritation that Chaos was apparently sandbagging through the entirety of the Post-Heresy to Great Rift Formation period because reasons.

But that's a complaint I have with the canon material, not the story. This has been very educational.
 
Yeah, the fact this is the weakest of the major Cults and we're struggling this much is concerning. I'm glad we got this data now, but it does give me my usual vague irritation that Chaos was apparently sandbagging through the entirety of the Post-Heresy to Great Rift Formation period because reasons.

But that's a complaint I have with the canon material, not the story. This has been very educational.
Well, this was them having more than a millennia of prep time. If we fought against them earlier, they might not have had more than one Cadence if even that.
 
Yeah, the fact this is the weakest of the major Cults and we're struggling this much is concerning. I'm glad we got this data now, but it does give me my usual vague irritation that Chaos was apparently sandbagging through the entirety of the Post-Heresy to Great Rift Formation period because reasons.

But that's a complaint I have with the canon material, not the story. This has been very educational.

chaos narratively: is weak untill the author needs them to be strong

that small cult that did nothing most of the quest?

well now they can wipe out titans that can do ninja backflips?
why?
fuck you!
thats why

is better to treat chaos like a videogame NPC whose stats level up automatically to match ours
they will for some reason always match our strenght exactly,no more no less
 
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Actually @HeroCooky what would be the reaction of a typical Space Marine chapter to the Thules? Both on and off the battlefield?
Elite Thules would give them trouble, N'Nomitrons would slavic squat dance on them as they call "Hax!"

They'd also be unnerved by a seeming caste of clone-soldiers that get treated, and expect to be treated, nicely.
if this is the smallest of the Cults on the table, and they're giving us this much trouble, I have serious concerns about the future campaigns.
Normal Federation Military Reaction Chart;
Declare you Got This -> Get Slapped by a factions Unique Feature -> Panic (You are here) -> Adapt -> Punch Their Spleen In -> Repeat

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Your peeps already figured out the loophole and are adapting, like they always do.

And you are fighting against a near-milennia-old Khornate Cult in semi-constant war against a Nurglite Cult here. Periods of adjustment are to be expected. They didn't sit on their ass, they advanced and learned like you did.
How many ships did we lose on that equation?
None, only crew.
Shit rolls on your end and good ones on theirs more like

But seriously; Night!
 
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Oh I know, it's why I'm only mildly irritated instead of panicking or anything, it's just "God damnit, fuck off Chaos, play by the rules like everyone else does!" frustration!
 
I mean, we did have Anti-Boarding on virtually our entire fleet, the problem is that Khorne is the best at CQC, and that ritual of theirs forces a ground battle in a void war.

Our high proliferation of Improved Internal Security and Augmetic Security Department is exactly why they didn't take out our entire god damn fleet with that stunt.
.....Oh my fucking god. We just got Roman'd. They did what the Romans did to the Carthaigans in the first Punic War by developing the Corvus. They turned the Naval Battle into a Land battle. damn it.

And yah, those two things were the only damn thing that stopped us from losing all those ships. Fucking hell that ritual is bullshit and I can see WHY the Gore-Sworn Duelist made their ships like that. we still suffered so many losses from that, still lessons learned and to keep in mind for fighting them. I think we want to put more into Titan Production, More SBG's to send in for reinforcements and maybe some more Grand Armies, and another round of Ship Design maybe to have some ramming ships on hand to act as bait or stallers for the Armada and to be used for other campaigns.

should we standarize anti-boarding fortifications in our ships?
it seems to be the preffered tactics of pretty much all factions once they cant beat on ship combat

it would be a instant ''FUCK YOU" to orkz,nurgle,khorne,slaneesh,dark eldar,post-imperial remmants etc
I think we want to but that means spending 5 actions on the Standardize equipment for stuff like that. we need people to commit to the action sink on that to get them. and even then we need to figure out how to do it to get the 3 DP security one that is our best one currently, we can only do two DP equipment right now. But yah considering how I can easily see Nurgle doing this same shit for space combat and boarding, I'm thinking of doing a write in for some kind of equipment to slow down a spread of diseases via air and such. Not sure what the Slaanesh ones would do but yah.



I'm surprised they had eight cyclonic torpedoes, that shit's supposed to actually be really damn hard to find, I hope that was basically their final gasp, because if this is the smallest of the Cults on the table, and they're giving us this much trouble, I have serious concerns about the future campaigns.

At least they can't actually use that "I force the battle into my favorite environment" button more than four more times, and we've got doctrine to blunt it now, and for all that first showing should have broken our back and stolen most of our tech for them, our high mobility combined with our high security proliferation limited our losses.
I agree, aren't those insanely rare and only one or two of them are used for an exterminatus? other then that is SUCKS and we want want to use lighter elements to bait the Duelists or to use micro warp jumps on some heavier ships in order to make them use the ritual and commit to it before we jump and make them waste it. the problem is they won't use their rituals unless they think they nailed the timing or the target is WORTH the use. and yah, wasn't as easy as we thought and the Chaos cults have done some stuff to make this shit work for them and their preferred fighting, as well as having tricks and aces of their own to play. I will say this was us going all in with little information about the Gore-Sworn Duelists. I think for next time we want to do probing attacks and limited campaigns for a Sub-sector or two to learn about them and how they right. After this we want to ask the Shipwrights and Mashan Authority how the Slaanesh Cult is fighting and how and if there are any standout or strange things to them, I don't doubt for a second that cult doesn't have some trump card to break the frontline and flood a couple sub-sectors.

And yah, while they learned a lot about us from the communications on those ships and rampaging into our ships, they didn't capture any in full or intact to tow away. They know some tips and how we are lacking in Boarding defenses, so they will aim more for that, we managed to take the full blunt of a blow that honestly SHOULD have stopped the campaign and broke our military force. Its mostly because of the Virgo Fleet Carriers could spare the crew for the fleet and that we have Space Marines in our forces. I'm not sure our high mobility mattered in this instance since we let them close the distance expecting our lances to melt some of them and be able to shoot at them and do damage. I do think after we will kite them and keep our Grand Cruisers and BattleShips away from the frontlines or in position to jump or keep a loose formation so the fleet can spread and run away.

Alectai, remember they used to have a Warbringer Titan? and how the factions aren't just memes and LEARNED to make situations suit them and built stuff that way? I don't think they have JUST a Warbringer Titan anymore.
 
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