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praise be to the STAR CHILD/DEUS EX MACHINA/DEUS EST MACHINA
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praise be to the STAR CHILD/DEUS EX MACHINA/DEUS EST MACHINA
Given the madness that we got from STC I want to once again propose making a song to find more
I mean we argue about morality here all the time. It just didn't seem like a productive avenue at the moment. You're free to argue for more medical infastructure or propose write-ins that will address the issue. That'll be a more productive argument.
HeroCooky
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They are already part of the Federation, just waiting around to get off the planet. If they were Mutants on any other world where you rocked up to, a lot of them would actually take the deal of "no biological kids" in exchange for "not getting brutally murdered for existing and having a chance at an actually good life" in the second they believe you are genuine.
And you can alter your approach, but that would be...unwise from a religious and social viewpoint. The sterilization of Mutants is seen as either "A Hand Of Salvation" or "A Necessary Evil For The Good Of All" for many Glimmerlings. In a setting where Evil Gods exist, and they directly fuck with someone's genes to better corrupt them in the long run, allowing Mutation to be inherited can be argued to be an evil act in itself (within the universe). You can read more on how I handle Mutation in the Quest Lore here. IRL this is absolutely fucked.
But it is not like they are forbidden to have children, they can still adopt or have one decanted (or clone one from their genes with a partner/s after having them cleaned, once you have the Medical Service Dev Lvl X for that).
Made them myself. One was (Thule But Horny - Literally) aka Minor Military Bioaugmetics.
Thule 1: "These horns allow me to better integrate with the Machine Spirit of my fighter due to the embedded neuroelectronic-interliked lattices layered over my brain."
Thule 2: "They also make for great handlebars." *Waggles Eyebrows*
Thule 1: *Punches Thule 2*
Thule 2, Muffled: "Worth it!"
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Saying that every non-Chaos Warp entity needs to swear allegiance to the Star Child will just lead to unnecessary wars and fighting against those that we don't need to fight when Chaos is our real enemy.
Seriously. Not everything has to be under our or the Star Child's control.
Deciding that everything has to submit to the Star Child will just lead to us going to war against the Mashan (the rock people) for example or the Eldar or whoever else has legitimate religions with actual Gods/Warp spirits.
Because remember that the Glimmering Federation *is* a theocracy.
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Well, I don't think the Glimmerling religion is outright monotheistic. The Droman Creed says that the Star Child is the only child of the Emperor and Omnissiah, but it doesn't say "there are no other gods beside the Five" or anything like that. If the religion is henotheistic, then you could probably fudge things so that as long as a god isn't aligned with Chaos then worship of that god is acceptable but not encouraged. Maybe something like "all peoples who can do so will see the Star Child's light as and when they are capable of it, and before that time we have no quarrel with their gods so long as their worship does not lead down the path of Ruin."
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The best way to thread the needle is the Persian model of conquest. IE you can worship your god(if they are not Chaos) and that's fine by us but we also encourage that you worship our god. As for the Star Child's compact of warp spirits and gods...that's for them to decide. The Divine Law is absolute and all that.
Edit: Or the Dwendalian empire model of "Here are a list of pre-approved gods you can worship because of Chaos reasons/social instability reasons"
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027.M43 - With Vigorous Debate
HeroCooky
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Philosophical differences were dealt with differently within societies, as vast and varied as those whose leading members were entirely of different species.
Yet, even for those of the same species, the cultures you were brought up in could drastically change how such differences are handled.
In the Imperium, they ended with one side purged, and often for good reason. Imperial good reason, mind, but reason all the same.
They were dealt with vigorous debate in the Federation, and often such debates were transmitted across planets, systems, or even into the wider Federation.
And when a topic such as how the Droman Creed would deal with the Eleven Spirits came up, the viewership shot into the stratospheres of each world.
Deal With It.
(6-Hour Moratorium)
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AN: Brain fried. Had to do complex shit after posting cringe. Have words. Bleh.
Yet, even for those of the same species, the cultures you were brought up in could drastically change how such differences are handled.
In the Imperium, they ended with one side purged, and often for good reason. Imperial good reason, mind, but reason all the same.
They were dealt with vigorous debate in the Federation, and often such debates were transmitted across planets, systems, or even into the wider Federation.
And when a topic such as how the Droman Creed would deal with the Eleven Spirits came up, the viewership shot into the stratospheres of each world.
Deal With It.
(6-Hour Moratorium)
[] (Write-In)
AN: Brain fried. Had to do complex shit after posting cringe. Have words. Bleh.
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Thank you loyal citizens for watching the mental breakdown your priesthood is about to have. Brought to you live through the Noosphere on Twitch
Honestly, the right way to handle this would have been to do the [] [Faith] An Unborn Guide Sought Out (Write-In). Then we might have gotten the option to make them Devas of the Star child or something. That would have been cool. Maybe we can still go for that?
Ultimately, it seems like they're the racial gods of the mothomes, while the Star Child is the human racial god. We won't accept them being anything but subordinate to the star child, but we also want to give them space to grow and help their people in their own way. Maybe we let them become the gods of the Xenos of the federation, subordinate divinities to the Star Child that will fight for the souls of those the Star Child doesn't?
Ultimately, it seems like they're the racial gods of the mothomes, while the Star Child is the human racial god. We won't accept them being anything but subordinate to the star child, but we also want to give them space to grow and help their people in their own way. Maybe we let them become the gods of the Xenos of the federation, subordinate divinities to the Star Child that will fight for the souls of those the Star Child doesn't?
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Is the worship of the Starchild mandatory? In the Glimmering federation? @HeroCooky
Is there a chance to gain more tries (especially if we ever gain the paths melody), or did we waste the mechanic for good?
The Glimmering Federation is kinda a Theocracy.
Just an unusually benign one.
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If it's mandatory then our responses became very limited. Because the "live and let live" model just died and we are left with Persian Model Modified and Divine Compact and I am not sure how our big god feels about the latter
HeroCooky
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Actually do some Songs and I'll start answering again. This is a Core Mechanic, and it is not utilized as such.
I think that we should allow them to worship the spirits of their world in addition to Starchild and that we will ask them what to do
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what would be the star child's opinion of the Eleven Spirits or the idea of having a Pantheon?
Again. This choice is greater than just the eleven spirits. Are you going to put us onto a path towards war with the Mashan or the Eldar? Because demanding all other non-Chaos spirits/Gods become subordinate to the Star Child or be subordinate under a pantheon with the Star Child at its head *will* lead to religious wars against non-Chaos religions.
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Wait wait wait. What's this gotta do with my question? I am just asking about Religious law in federation lmao
We are a literal theocracy. That is not even remotely on the table unfortunately
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I like the idea of using Henotheism
How about- if they live *in* the Federation, then they acknowledge the primacy of the Star Child and offer due respect to the Star Child. But they get to worship their non-Chaos Gods/Spirits as long as said religion passes scrutiny.
For Wayfarers, they have their religions and Gods but they'd better respect the Star Child. They don't have to worship the Star Child but they should respect the fact that the Star Child exists.
For Wayfarers, they have their religions and Gods but they'd better respect the Star Child. They don't have to worship the Star Child but they should respect the fact that the Star Child exists.
HeroCooky
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You have no idea.
The Quote is the answer to your question. The sentence is the same to Toboe's.
Edit: With that; Night!
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[] Plan: The Star Child Model
-[] The galaxy is rife with all manner of faiths despite the Imperiums best efforts to stamp them out. As not all gods and warp spirits are of the Four and as such must be treated as potential allies. To this effect all citizens of the Federation are, as per previous mandates, required to worship the Star Child however they can also worship other gods if they so wish.
-[] As for the other gods their worship will be observed and studied in order to see if there are any Chaos or malicious influences or encourage such things. A registry of faiths will be created with the core tenants of the faith recorded thus that is a record of all faiths in the Federation
-[]A communion will be had with the StarChild sometime in the next 50 years with regards to his opinion on the other warp spirits and gods and for further instruction regarding this matter.
Edit: Also we should just spam songs for the next few turns lol
-[] The galaxy is rife with all manner of faiths despite the Imperiums best efforts to stamp them out. As not all gods and warp spirits are of the Four and as such must be treated as potential allies. To this effect all citizens of the Federation are, as per previous mandates, required to worship the Star Child however they can also worship other gods if they so wish.
-[] As for the other gods their worship will be observed and studied in order to see if there are any Chaos or malicious influences or encourage such things. A registry of faiths will be created with the core tenants of the faith recorded thus that is a record of all faiths in the Federation
-[]A communion will be had with the StarChild sometime in the next 50 years with regards to his opinion on the other warp spirits and gods and for further instruction regarding this matter.
Edit: Also we should just spam songs for the next few turns lol
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