Skitterdoc 2077
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I find it interesting that a lot of people are taking Taylor explaining the corpo-school culture and warning Gloria not to try to fight it, as approval. The closest she gets is this paragraph, where she acknowledges that the situation isn't as simple as "bullying bad".
Also, I love this line:
Taylor is explaining why it's happening, how David can get the best out of his situation, because neither he, Gloria, nor Taylor are in any sort of position to try to change things right now.
Also, I love this line:
The "not host, not host or not host" bit shows how alien Shard-senpai is- they are clearly different beings, despite having the same English descriptor. (Also, how little they matter compared to Best Host.)
This van is 100% stolen
ChaosTheVoid
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Man I love the build up. I hope at one point we get AI Borg Taylor Dragoon smash whoever threatens Borg Town so epically it's becomes an urban legend.
Wow, so this new Taylor is going to run on Shard crystal computronium?
That is amazing computing substrate, literally the culmination of actual eons of iterative design and improvements stolen from thousands of host species. She could probably break S1 with a few kilograms of that, and still have a human sized body. I'd imagine it equal to an Ultimate Chip, which is fucking impressive considering that's a Second Singularity technology.
That is amazing computing substrate, literally the culmination of actual eons of iterative design and improvements stolen from thousands of host species. She could probably break S1 with a few kilograms of that, and still have a human sized body. I'd imagine it equal to an Ultimate Chip, which is fucking impressive considering that's a Second Singularity technology.
AzrielIlluminare
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Less us taking that as approval and more just taking it as another thing to the list. Taylor would never approve of bullying considering her own trauma, but she's shown several signs of embracing parts of Corpo culture with a mix of just adjusting to life in Cyberpunk-Earth/Night City.
Like her whole fuel making thing? To get revenge on Biotechnica? Peak Corpo culture, especially where she just kinda ignored any potential consequences like say... a currently on-going war. Sure we know the war was going to happen anyways, but she doesn't/didn't.
The bombs in heads thing, her just recently in this chapter thinking of kidnapping someone:
Like sure she comes up with an excuse of why it'd be her 'saving him' and maybe it would be, but that's still a pretty fucked up thing to think about consciously. And most people just hand wave it as her 'adapting to the way things are in Cyberpunk Earth' but uh... that's basically Corpo culture, because the Corps have shaped and grown things to be that way.
And sure she can't change things yet, but that doesn't mean she should seemingly so whole heartedly embrace it either.
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Great chap. Since you are enjoying baldurs gate woudl you be able to write a bg3 fanfic?
Even before Chirurgeon-bud got involved I assume being able to do math/simulations/netrun/etc was the whole point.
As for thinking differently, I imagine that depends on how abstracted the emulation is.
We know Shards can fully simulate people, after all, but if she's running her consciousness more on the actual hardware instead of in a virtual box or whatever they record hosts in, that might cause some changes.
As a bonus, having some Shardware means she can backup her entire hivemind super easily without worrying about overheating or anything.
Jordisk
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All Taylors are equally Taylor. She specifically chose the network architecture she did, as explained in the chapter, to make every Taylor equally important. As long as one Taylor exists, all Taylors can be recreated just by cloning a new body for them. Similarly, a Taylor can be liquidated with minimal cost to the rest of the Taylors. Using the Haywire-based FTL comms, she is using all the brains at the same time for all bodies. And this new brain is not only brain that won't be adding a body at the same time, but a brain running on Shard-stuff just like Alexandria's does.
I don't know about netrunning but she can't use a Sandy...she uses the always-on speedware instead and has since quite early on.
AzrielIlluminare
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Kinda, Zion/Scion at least uses multiple Shards to act human. But Shards do save memory snapshots of Hosts, but they prioritize certain memories for preservation over others. Ashley Stillons 2 for instance very vividly remembers every time she went into combat, but has trouble recalling her early life and childhood, and she was a Bonesaw produced Clone.
The Flock (resurrected Capes using Glaistig/Valkyrie) all have severe mental health issues, suffering from Shard Influence, personality erosion, and/or trauma from dying. So it's not a 100% perfect method of storing/simulating Hosts, so while her AI/Shard-self might come across as somewhat human, she probably won't be 100% human.
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What is stopping Crystal-Taylor from creating separate virtual machines to host the other Taylors and then have them remote pilot or sync with their respective organic bodies?
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She would loose the benefit of having backups that arent within nuclear blast range of her fourth 'body'?
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By comparison, Miss Militia has a full memory backup in her shard, making it so she doesn't forget anything, and Alexandria is a time-locked body remote-piloted by a shard-hosted mindstate copy.
AzrielIlluminare
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True, she doesn't need to sleep, but when she does she relives all of her memories in perfect detail and has a pretty good memory even then.
I can find plenty saying her invincibility is due to her body being locked in stasis, but where did you get the remote-piloted part? The closest thing I can find is the off-loading of her Thinker abilities onto her Shard because her brain can't handle it.
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Really nice to see a Kiwi that can be more open and carefree.
Reminds me of Ozob.
Never change, Taylor.
This is really fun too. I love her connections to Gloria and David, nice to see them together like this.
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Another fun chapter, good callback to Edgerunners there.
What I find hilarious though, is that while everyone is freaking/fangirling about the home made entity crystal, is that my focus is on...
Ok, first, I think Taylor is making a mistake here in a very Taylor way, she is equating homogeneity with equal value where she is actually devaluing herself (this is Taylor) by trying to pretend that her core self doesn't hold the most value to her.
Basically she is looking at a pile of processors working in sync and going, they are all equally important, but in reality since they are wholly parallel from the way she is valuing them, they actually become devalued.
It's like if you loose a fingernail, you have nine more and the lost one will grow back. Instead if she wants each body to have equally important value (less tactically strong) they need to be wholly individualized and interdependent. To call back to the earlier analogy you don't shrug off loosing a major organ, but you can in theory recover from it. Which I think is what Taylor will find her plural existence actually is from a psychological perspective if she permanently actually looses one of her bodies along with all the social placement and connections that body had.
*I will be with senpai...together...forever!! *drools creepily*
ps: I was up late last night working on my home server <-*saw dawn* and have not had coffee, so if my argument makes no sense please forgive.
What I find hilarious though, is that while everyone is freaking/fangirling about the home made entity crystal, is that my focus is on...
Philosophy in relation to self value in a network of homogeneous processors in a heterogeneous network of bodies.
Ok, first, I think Taylor is making a mistake here in a very Taylor way, she is equating homogeneity with equal value where she is actually devaluing herself (this is Taylor) by trying to pretend that her core self doesn't hold the most value to her.
Basically she is looking at a pile of processors working in sync and going, they are all equally important, but in reality since they are wholly parallel from the way she is valuing them, they actually become devalued.
It's like if you loose a fingernail, you have nine more and the lost one will grow back. Instead if she wants each body to have equally important value (less tactically strong) they need to be wholly individualized and interdependent. To call back to the earlier analogy you don't shrug off loosing a major organ, but you can in theory recover from it. Which I think is what Taylor will find her plural existence actually is from a psychological perspective if she permanently actually looses one of her bodies along with all the social placement and connections that body had.
Yandare space crystal, check. Giving off cannibal vibes there girl
*I will be with senpai...together...forever!! *drools creepily*
ps: I was up late last night working on my home server <-*saw dawn* and have not had coffee, so if my argument makes no sense please forgive.
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Yeah I went with "can" for a reason.
As in, a Shard that actually cares can do it.
At the very least I'm sure a wet tinker Shard could.
Jordisk
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Her Thinker ability is literally "Runs on Shardware instead of a brain" and that is the source of her perfect memory and increased thought-speed. All her other abilities are just normal skills, but she has more "personal time" to consider them. What for us is a barely-noticeable micro-expression that our subconscious can categorize into empathy, for her is a conscious analysis of emotional state.
AzrielIlluminare
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I mean...Shards and Entities are cannibalistic. Back on the Homeworlds* it's how they survived for so long after draining them dry of resources/food, eating each other.
*The Entity homeworld was in a space where dimensional barriers were naturally weak allowing them to easily travel to variants of their world. So thus Homeworlds.
AzrielIlluminare
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Right now taking a small bit and holding it is a pretty good idea though, Pacifica is the southernmost part of the city, which puts it basically a leisurely drive from the SoCal/NUSA border. So taking the district means she'd have to hold against Militech and NUSA forces, and the NCPD/Corps when/if they decide they want to try and move back in.
So yeah, Taylor can try, but it's probably not a smart idea.
mackhaon
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Is this tale slowly edging into Hōseki no Kuni crossover?
