Skitterdoc 2077

Her cover story was that she got Scav'd.
Her biosculpting was undone by Scavengers? Was this in the last few updates? I thought the discussion with Ripperdocs was about her not having fixed her eyes and stuff for a bet, if I recall. Also, wouldn't Scavs have caused all sort of damage when ripping out the sockets etc that allow her to use a Deck in the first place?
 
Her biosculpting was undone by Scavengers? Was this in the last few updates? I thought the discussion with Ripperdocs was about her not having fixed her eyes and stuff for a bet, if I recall. Also, wouldn't Scavs have caused all sort of damage when ripping out the sockets etc that allow her to use a Deck in the first place?
...yeah, you're right, not concluding that our Taylor is a fucking pod person is a plot hole if they have access to that evidence.
 
I thought that Taylor managing to call enough help for them to prematurely interrupt the interrogation was a very smooth solution to her not being found out. Their knowledge is now incomplete, but they think they know enough. They know about her believing herself to have superpowers, but they did not get into enough detail to find out she has actual evidence for that. They know she considers Danny and Annette her true parents, probably including childhood memories, without getting enough detail to figure out the switcheroo.

What I do not understand yet is that they know she got operations done two years ago that she already had done several years before that. That isn't just a major red flag. Unless cyber implants are known to just vanish randomly, this is a giant glowing neon sign saying "THIS IS A FAKE TAYLOR/CLONE". Did I miss that being addressed somewhere?
Wait, do they know that? Because you're right that's the one big flag.

Although enough off-the-books doctors seem to exist in Night City I could see her having an operation to undo her biosculpting somewhere they couldn't track, but you wouldn't expect her to then immediately want it redone.
 
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Wait, do they know that? Because you're right that's the one big flag.
She had, under a false name, approached a biosculpt clinic and requested a number of modifications. Modifications she should have already had. Additionally, she became a patient of a cybernetics clinic and received cybernetics that she should also already had -- including a basic operating system.
I don't think this point was ever addressed further.
 
I think you are mistaking the meat of my critique. The issue isn't the use of an original character who is on the level of some of the top guys in universe. The issue is that there was no buildup to sell them as that kind of badass. We got introduced to the guy, he did some big standard elite network guy stuff, and then we were told "oh he's totally on Adam Smasher's level" via backstory dumping when we haven't seen him do anything to support that kind of skill or reputation.

"This Original Character (do not steal) you've never heard of could take Adam Smasher" is just bad writing, and it is again made worse by the fact that the noncanon Astor family are suddenly revealed to *also* have in house AI and the aforementioned setting breaking biotech.

If you want to make Taylor's secret family special @SpiraSpira, I think it would have worked much better to give them one hat and have them run with it. Giving them biotech that lets you compete with full borgs physically is whatever and I can't say I particularly like that as a setting element, but using that to augment their super assassin to Legend levels would break versimilitude less than them having the biotech and then *also* being lucky enough to have an Adam Smasher style humanity-lol guy.
I think you're making assumptions there, he says he's a full borg yes, and that Adam smasher is another example of a Full Borg. But nowhere in the text does it say that he's on Smasher's level, even if he himself believed that he's an equal to Smasher, well, so did many others that are now dead. Note that full borg conversions aren't that rare in Cyberpunk, it's rare for them to be able to function well, but they still should exist, it makes sense that in billions there would be more than just Smasher that can do a full conversion.

AI are not canon breaking nor are they even rare in Cyberpunk, it's noted that many Corps have their own AIs so it stands to reason that a trillionaire family would have an AI. Now if that AI were to take on Soulkiller or Alt and win then your criticism would be more valid, but just having an AI as a glorified Private Investigator that noted a small inconsistency is hardly a Glorious Feat.

Even having an inside man in Arasaka says little, sure the Astors are certain that Arasaka is none the wiser, but are they really? When we see a pov from a character we should always take their assumptions with a grain of salt, sure the Astor family member believes they have an inside man. He may just as well be a double agent turned by Arasaka long ago, this may even get Arasaka interested in Taylor where she might have escaped their atention as a non entity before.

I think that it is still too soon to comment on AltTaylor's family, it has potential specially once she starts getting attention and traction, how will the other Astors react? Now she's a non entity so her grandmother can afford her some protection, but the moment she becomes a threat to the heirs and others competing for future control of the company they're just as likely to hinder her.
 
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Though personally I really hope Taylor ends up at Biotechnica in some capacity just so she can meet the CEO Niccolo Loggagia. Guy is actually cool assuming he is still alive, his last mention is in 2045, he leaves most of the business stuff to his grandkids and has a love of just creating cool bio-stuff. He made a Koala with Venomous fangs just because it is cool! Tell me you Don't want to see him and Taylor work together!

I am still hoping that Biotechnica is only 'evil' like we see in '77 at the local scale. All the evil things we see in the videogame were all directly ordered from local officials - up to the District Manager. I didn't see any that were national or international directives.
 
I am still hoping that Biotechnica is only 'evil' like we see in '77 at the local scale. All the evil things we see in the videogame were all directly ordered from local officials - up to the District Manager. I didn't see any that were national or international directives.
Well, there is the weird mushroom AI thing. Somehow doubt that's against orders, it's in the patent application and everything.
 
Well, there is the weird mushroom AI thing. Somehow doubt that's against orders, it's in the patent application and everything.
That's not evil, that's just developing an organic AI. Cyberpunk Shady, not "for the LOLs" Evil that we see Biotechnica do to locals in Night City. The local corp did some really evil things, just to save a few eddies or avoid local PR hits.
 
That's not evil, that's just developing an organic AI. Cyberpunk Shady, not "for the LOLs" Evil that we see Biotechnica do to locals in Night City. The local corp did some really evil things, just to save a few eddies or avoid local PR hits.
I'll be completely honest, corps doing that shit all blurred together in my head. Some atrocities were memorable, but you're just describing business as usual in business. Now, if the werewolf thing or the secret shadow war with extinction of species as the weapon were legit (though even the conspiracy guy says the Biotechnica suits he got drunk swear they didn't fire first on that one)...

Yes, the mushroom AI thing is also from the conspiracy guy, but he actually cited sources on that one.
 
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I'll be completely honest, corps doing that shit all blurred together in my head.

Yea, the "Turn a mushroom into AI" thing isn't really something I'd consider evil. Just more like "What the hell?"

Compared to "Oh this drug gives people brain bleeding... don't tell anyone and keep selling it." The short from Edgerunners is the closest I've seen from Biotechnica being the evil corp in the latest media. And it was in Night City where we've seen other posts from the local branch do similar things to local people - so I still don't know if that's just a bad local branch or the whole corp's gone bad as well.
 
(1:54) Morro Rock Radio

The patent is for 'bioinformatic neural simulation', along with the more normal 'soil improvement' and 'biodiversity measurement'. It's the host that claims it's an AI, but the station is set up to sound like it's run by a conspiracy theorist, with bits of truth scattered around. His reasoning that it's an AI? Why else would there be communication towers and what 'look like' a datafortress (in this remote forest, away from the public and its competitors)?

Maybe it is an AI, Taylor could definitely do it, but it's funnier to me if everyone thinks it's for an AI but in actuality, it's just a bigger version of the Japanese Mould-Network Railway.

I've never actually listened to the in-game radio, so I'm going through it now since I keep reading these cool things that come from it.
 
doing some quick investigating has gotten me 2 things for the evil column

Testing their drug "Psyxolon" on pregnant women to see it effects on "miscarriages and foetal development"

and they wiped out a Nomad clan called the Red Orchids while testing something called "Project Nightingale" it has a gig in game and some easter eggs spread across a bunch of data shards scattered throughout the city

Edit: also the email discussing Psyxolon has some subtext that suggests that the doctor will be 'providing' some of the pregnant women himself so......yeah
 
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Testing their drug "Psyxolon" on pregnant women to see it effects on "miscarriages and foetal development"
Wait, that shit was them?
Edit: also the email discussing Psyxolon has some subtext that suggests that the doctor will be 'providing' some of the pregnant women himself so......yeah
Yeah, I was usually doing stealth, but after I got seen in that asylum I just started killing instead of quickloading. Regretted nothing, especially not using grenades near where I'd stored already knocked-out guards.
 
...yeah, you're right, not concluding that our Taylor is a fucking pod person is a plot hole if they have access to that evidence.
Amazingly, its not a plot hole at all, because 'real Taylor went to an amazingly competent back-alley ripperdoc who doesn't keep records and had all her work removed/undone on a bet or something stupid' is the only thing that makes even a lick of sense.

It makes no sense at all, but it still makes more sense than 'super-corp with access to insane tech forgets to install cyberware and do final tune-ups to their pod person'. And it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the truth, 'Taylor replaced by super-powered Alt-Taylor by a ROB for the sake of telling a fun story.'
 
And it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the truth, 'Taylor replaced by super-powered Alt-Taylor by a ROB for the sake of telling a fun story.'
I'm inclined to blame Alien Space Bats in the ROB-role, as you might suspect they've got a lot more subtle, these days, after being slapped down. :)

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Just read this whole story, in the last week, after stumbling across it, excellent work @SpiraSpira .

I'm a tabletop RPGer, not a computer one, and a science fiction fan, so I apologise if I'm missing some of the important world-building from that source, but given my familiarity with Cyberpunk 2020 rules (no I never managed to find a playing group), and the cyberpunk genre in general, I'd hope that'll be enough.

My reading on this story is Taylor is a transhuman in a transhuman setting, but, one of a different genre. Transhumanism can go in so many different directions, and the compatible/conflicting areas are fun to contrast. Taylor escalating to posthuman, while maintaining her essential (to her) humanity tends to be a fun read.

Will be interesting to see if the spider med-bots make an appearance in a way Taylor is (not too un)happy with...
 
Even if you accept that Biotechnica's local atrocities were done by the branch manager that doesn't actually mean that the system that put him in place and keeps him there has no culpability for his crimes.

And besides, even at best Biotechnica is Cyberpunk Monsanto—patenting the food supply is not a morally neutral activity, and neither is, uh being a megacorp in the cyberpunk universe. Just existing and maintaining your power requires a tremendous amount of organized violence.
 
Regarding Taylor's room, some thoughts (beyond just 'explosives by her door'):

What about some sort of micro-dot, intertangled/full-mesh/neural-like network sprayed over the full interior of her rooms? It could serve to give her complete topographical/locational awareness of where everything's physical presence was, as well as a record/log of where things have been and if they get disturbed or replaced. It could combine features of various basic/dispersed sensors: pressure/weight, volume, light/EM spectrum, etc. They could optionally be traced if removed from her rooms as well, with some sort of built in decay (off-gassing?) factor and/or exotic chemical (or EM spectrum energy) needs.

Other security measures could include:
- Scent/chemical/radiological tag puffers for guests/visitors/intruders, that gradually changes/evolves the chemical profile in a manner to make back-dating when they 'visited' easy to discern.
- 'Brown note' noises and/or 'meme'-tier weaponry (of the sound and/or visual spectrum).
- Spiders/weaver/crafter insects to access and reinforce the spaces around her rooms (in the floors, walls, ceilings, piping conduits, etc); could be combined with lead and/or faraday-cage-like traits, or as storage for large quantities of liquids, solids, gasses, etc. Heavy armouring.
- A false bed 'layer' that she could sleep under (in some sort of panic vault-like space), with an entire full-body (simple? Complex? Booby-trapped?) clone to go with it.
- Carbon/diamond-like dust for massive inhalation damage.
- Binary chemical mixes: poisons, acids, explosives, etc. As liquids, gases/vapurs, etc.
- Some trigger/alarm that broadcasts on a specific audio frequency that only Taylor's ears (and/or a custom bio-form) can hear.
- A 'panic' option to drop/deploy multi-room filling mesh grids of mono-wire (in basic, electrical/heat charged, and/or substance-coated variants).
- Electric-eel-like 'super taser' systems (with 'off-grid' batteries/charges/breakers, etc).
- False/disply body 'parts' that can auto-assemble into some sort of bio-drone/scout/spy.

Off-site:
- A fully stocked safe-house (or at least an underground bunker/room).
- Lifeforms designed to filter/refine minerals, chemicals, trace elements, etc (in the sewers and/or large bodies of water); either masses of smaller lifeforms, or large underground (like root systems) or above-ground (like kudzu/vine crawlers, or far more visible tree types).

A selection of viruses:
- Tailored/countdown (non-contagious!) 'doomsday' viruses (that trigger complete cellular death unless a certain fix is provided).
- Cyberware sensitivity/rejection/allergies.
- Bio-electric phages (IIRC?)/low cellular lifeforms that feed/grow/(rapidly!) reproduce in the presence of electricty (and sufficient nutrients).
- 'Stupid-makers': something that increasingly blocks/slows neural activity (without permanently killing neurons).
 
When Taylor work up from a fugue state, she was in the lab she had arranged to rent from Jin in the buildings sub basement.
What happened ? Why is there a person sized hole in the wall.
Looking in the opening Taylor noticed a ramp going done,a polished smooth circle until it bent in a curve. Taylor unholsters her pistol and begins following the tunnel down. Acidic vapor hangs in the air the deeper Taylor descends.
30 meters under the sub basement Taylor is supposed to see a large dome like area with a large blob that seem to be eating the bedrock. Taylor realizes in her fugue state she created a bio tunneling creature. Her powers answer to her desire for a safe house to do experiments in. Taylor laughs "I wanted a safe house and my power creates a villains lair". With that thought Taylor's power starts feeding her ideas about bio-creatures to defend her new dungeon-lair.
Hmm use the flyspawner to act as sentries and trackers in the tunnels, bats that spew my paralytic gas to scare intruders off. Lizard creatures that can walk on the ceilings with a necrotizing venom bite.
Taylor shakes herself before she goes into a fugue state , who knows what she would create.

Have to watch those fugue states.
 
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