[X] Evacuate Saaya, then take a moment.
Neato. I won't respond to most of this, because mysteries are meant to be mysterious, but it's useful to know!As for general information... well, I do my best to read things carefully, but I would be surprised if I focused on the parts you meant to be important, or reached conclusions you were hoping for us to reach. That said, here are some parts of the chapter that got me thinking about their implications:
It's the "mental space" that seems to be getting bigger, not the "indescribable elsewhere". The same mental space with the "thumping wound" in it. Is the mental space expanding into the "indescribable elsewhere"? Or into the physical world? Or is something else going on?
I'm not sure about the antecedents of some of these pronouns. Assuming the "they" in "They were fused together" refers to Saaya's mind and this place, that's a strange description, especially since none of the fragments sound like they're stuck. I'm not sure if it's just an odd word choice, or if it's supposed to indicate more.
It's never shown in canon (because Saaya is a background character who rarely shows up there), but at some point during fifth grade she showed up at school unusually annoyed, and with short hair.I am not sure when this happened, or if it was a canon event. It doesn't sound like it has any major setting implications, but it does make me wonder what happened to her hair afterward. Did she just go to school like that? Did she hide it, with a wig or hair extensions or something? Has enough time passed for her hair to grow back to its previous state? Imagine if her hair extensions ended up falling out in all this chaos.
Yes, it is.It's interesting that the mental splintering created versions of Saaya, instead of, like, "the fragment that handles blinking" and "the part that remembers how doorknobs work".
It's #1. It feels like she's got cuts there, but she doesn't. Going to adjust the description slightly."a thousand mental cuts where she was touching her" is a bit of an unusual description. The cuts are described as "mental", but localized to parts of Amu's body rather than her mind. Does "mental" mean it just feels like she's got cuts there? Or does it refer to physical cuts, made by Saaya's mind? Or cuts on the parts of Amu's mind that handle the parts of her body that were touching Saaya?
Amu has one dot in precog... that doesn't mean Dia does, it just isn't generally accessible. Which is all I'll say.Not sure how much of this is flowery description and how much is Amu's one dot in precog.
This is just straight-up a mistake. I misremembered where the chain came from. Expect the reference to disappear.Considering how many times the Humpty Lock seemed to protect Amu on its own without Amu consciously making it do that, "She knew the Humpty Lock didn't act on its own" is a bit of a strange thing to say. Plus, it looks like it just adjusted its chain on its own.
Adjusting its own chain stands out as particularly weird. For one thing, this capability doesn't seem to have anything to do with the lock's psionic functionality. For another, I'm pretty sure the chain isn't part of the Humpty Lock. It's just a chain!
Very likely precog, especially if she was tapping into Dia for it.Not sure how much of this is flowery description and how much is Amu's one dot in precog.
I suspect this too.
This is also why I was not quite confident enough to dismiss the idea that Saaya might have lashed out before, but at something that wasn't a person.The rift incident feels like the door incident. This is evidence that the way Saaya broke reality is like the way she broke the door, instead of being fundamentally different.
Just speaking on this point, as I work on a bit of an omake on the topic of Saaya and how she got to this current state.I didn't think it was likely, as I assumed that having 6 months to stew in hate over Amu would have resulted in enough incidents of lashing out that she would realize on some level that she was using powers.
Guess it turned out she was stable enough to avoid it happening more than once or twice and only on furniture that she could feasibly have broken with brute strength if they were fragile enough.
There's still an open question of when exactly she realized she had them - my initial presumption back when reading 1.6 was that it had happened in the 6 months she'd been cursing Amu. When you came up with your theory which Baughn affirmed, I assumed it only happened at the moment the rift appeared. But with that little recent tidbit we got about Amu realizing how Saaya seemed deflated post-Hinamori Dream, I'm starting to believe it happened back in elementary school after their fight.Saaya was aware she had powers. That's why she called herself a monster. Her only obvious example of the powers was Amu, who she sees as an eldritch monster, and the two times people (Yuu and Lulu) twisted her mind into a weapon.
Funny thing, but did you that Amu's callsign back in the Guardians was "Joker"?Maybe Saaya will open up more about this as we advance her social link.
Would tend to agree.Had the vibe that her hating Amu was more a coping mechanism for her insecurities and bad household situation more than anything else
Definitely isn't hate. Saaya admires Amu, in a way; jealousy requires the target to have something you wish you had yourself, and in Saaya's case, most of that 'something' is Amu's personality. Or, at least, the personality she's projecting.
Lemme guess: Most of the remainder of what she'd like, that isn't her personality, is a cute little sister waiting for her at home.Amu's sister was adorable, and sweet, and perfect, and Amu didn't even appreciate-
Ah, go figure. Pistachio switched to voting for another plan which is just my luck . I was quoting the name of the previous strategy. Thanks for the heads up.
The last vote sort of ended up as a coalition victory of people voting to do the incredibly risky thing for their own reasons. This vote just has a very straightforward core objective and a very straightforward means of achieving that objective, so there's total agreement on the straightforward part.Ah, go figure. Pistachio switched to voting for another plan which is just my luck . I was quoting the name of the previous strategy. Thanks for the heads up.
Baughn, the previous vote wasn't nearly as close as the others. Now the most recent one is all variations of Evac. What happened?
Fewer people voted, it seems?Ah, go figure. Pistachio switched to voting for another plan which is just my luck . I was quoting the name of the previous strategy. Thanks for the heads up.
Baughn, the previous vote wasn't nearly as close as the others. Now the most recent one is all variations of Evac. What happened?
Also less discussion I guess because the alternative was only proposed shortly before final call?Ah, go figure. Pistachio switched to voting for another plan which is just my luck . I was quoting the name of the previous strategy. Thanks for the heads up.
Baughn, the previous vote wasn't nearly as close as the others. Now the most recent one is all variations of Evac. What happened?
It's not as critical a vote as the previous one, at any rate, so it's fine.Also less discussion I guess because the alternative was only proposed shortly before final call?
(That's partly my fault, I was working on omake instead of taking part in thread and forgot I hadn't put my plan in >.>)
Eh, Nero's plan is kind of trying to eat the whole cake at once.
For a less cold hearted rationale, Amu finally—after four years of seeing her as a bully—got the inside scoop on Saaya. And would, if she weren't currently in combat, feel a bit guilty.(No, I would not like Amu to think like this in-story, this is just the cold quester rationale at work.
I saw the options given as somewhat wasteful, since there was a lot of moving around without doing something else.Eh, Nero's plan is kind of trying to eat the whole cake at once.
Despite being called "Evacuate Saaya and Take a Moment", it's actually proposing to evacuate Saaya - with implication to get outside the vicinity entirely if that's required for safety - plus evaluate the situation, plus call Lulu, plus call Ami to call Miki, plus call Rima, plus come back to help Tadase and Nagihiko. Which is basically every default option at once.
Which I doubt will all successfully happen without an interrupt, but at the very least the "evacuate Saaya" part should go off without a hitch. Whatever parts turn out to be mutually exclusive, we can cross that bridge when it comes to it.
I will also add shamelessly that my inclination to provide maximum security for Saaya stems from the extremely simple (and admittedly self-serving) reason that, if the Humpty Lock is going to be chained to Saaya for the foreseeable future, I want Saaya chained to us the whole time too.
So that we still have the Humpty Lock. Just with a bit extra attached.
(No, I would not like Amu to think like this in-story, this is just the cold quester rationale at work.)
That's interesting you feel that way, Nero. Your activity in this thread has been profound.Also less discussion I guess because the alternative was only proposed shortly before final call?
(That's partly my fault, I was working on omake instead of taking part in thread and forgot I hadn't put my plan in >.>)
LMAO.So that we still have the Humpty Lock. Just with a bit extra attached.
(No, I would not like Amu to think like this in-story, this is just the cold quester rationale at work.)
New info has turned up~If no new info turns up, here's an outline to get that info, and a backup in case we can't.