Shards of a Broken Sun [Deprecated; see link in final post for remake]

Lucy ain't half bad, but I like Alcor and Cain more.
Eh, he's affably evil most of the time, which helps his image a lot, and also content with any outcome that fucks over YHVH. I still don't want him to get anywhere close to winning because his ideal is simply horrible to humanity as it is now. Not that anyone else's is much better, really.
 
the issue is by word of gm modern forces are already trained past the point of quick and easy boosts. There is not that much beyond leadership we can do to directly increase the effectiveness of modern troops. Turning ourselves into high-end strategic archery artillery would actually be a fairly effective way to boost our fighting ability. Being able to call down a storm of golden arrows would be a big force multiplier, and I believe we would only need a few charms to do that.
The exploding arrows charm only does 4 damage within 20 yards. It's a pretty respectable boom on a personal scale, but it doesn't stand up to actual artillery in the JSDF. While we can't easily improve on their training, their equipment and actual operations would greatly benefit from our attention, all the more so because of how well trained they already are.
 
Eh, he's affably evil most of the time, which helps his image a lot, and also content with any outcome that fucks over YHVH. I still don't want him to get anywhere close to winning because his ideal is simply horrible to humanity as it is now. Not that anyone else's is much better, really.
He's better than yhvh every time. Remember to kill your local God!
 
To be perfectly honest, is there anything wrong with just... not opposing Hotsuin's rule? From what I hear, his cooperation would be worth more than the Solar charms that require us to be in charge(at least when you factor in the opportunity cost that said charms have), even if a fight between us wouldn't be dangerously destructive.
 
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We're probably not going to get these, since we have a spirit teacher and they're expensive, so we shouldn't tell him they exist.

I'm planning to go for Bureaucracy 5, for the external penalty reducer, so I think maybe we should just not tell him at all and co-ordinate directly with the JSDF, since we have much more of an in with their leadership, and he doesn't have the direct authority to stop us, and it will probably be more useful there anyway.
Could you point me to where this is detailed? I've looked and haven't found any of the posts from Baughn. It would be nice to get a chunk of free training to raise unfavored Abilities, I just can't seem to actually find it.
Nevermind, finally located something:
You could have chosen not to immediately go after Nyarly's little gift. The world would not, in fact, have blown up, but since you did... here you are. For what it's worth, you'll be getting more training time than you know what to do with in a short while.
Sparse on the details, especially whether it's even related to Tenmon-Tenjin, but if that's a literal 'more than we know what to do with', well, yay. Much of the numbers are now significantly less relevant.

If teachygod's teachy-powers are somewhat comparable to Solar ones, and do apply to warfare... it would probably be more effective (comparative advantage-wise) to let him handle that niche, and have Amu do something else. Replace 'training Charms' with other Charms as appropriate. The important thing is to give an idea of what the opportunity cost is there.
*Waves hand* Fine fine, bite my head off for not knowing SMT.
When you're pushing the plan to arbitrarily oppose and possibly dismantle the organization currently keeping the world running in a very literal sense, and heedlessly dismiss figures as relevant out of hand because they don't immediately interest you... damn right.

Besides, we still have yet to aim Hotsuin at Easter so he can destroy them in a cold rage.
 
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The exploding arrows charm only does 4 damage within 20 yards. It's a pretty respectable boom on a personal scale, but it doesn't stand up to actual artillery in the JSDF. While we can't easily improve on their training, their equipment and actual operations would greatly benefit from our attention, all the more so because of how well trained they already are.

I was thinking more the trick where we can hit most of the now reduced world and make army scale attacks. But you do have a point that we may be better off doing other things. The demi fiend can deal with big things, we can drop nukes on armies of little things and we can use supernaturally well-led troops to deal with things in between. We may have sufficient ass kicking on hand if we can coordinate it.
 
To be perfectly honest, is there anything wrong with just... not opposing Hotsuin's rule? From what I hear, his cooperation would be worth more than the Solar charms that require us to be in charge(at least when you factor in the opportunity cost that said charms have), even if a fight between us wouldn't be dangerously destructive.
I don't think he'll accept a Neutral ending (the one where everything gets put back the way it was) to the vortex world, and Amu won't accept anything else. This is a fundamental difference, as much as we're aligned in the short term.
I was thinking more the trick where we can hit most of the now reduced world and make army scale attacks.
I don't know of any way to hit the entire world, other than Creation-Destroying Oblivion Kick. What are you thinking of?
 
Despite Hotsuin's love of meritocracy, he's a hypocrite when it comes to his own power and authority. He doesn't accept that there can be anyone more deserving of his power and position than himself, and if anyone threatens that he'll crush them as soon as possible.
1. He is more competent than most in most things he's interested in.
2. Disagreement with protagonist wasn't on "who is more competent", but on "what world should be" which takes priority. Also "force of arms" is not most compelling argument about competency about creating new world (and "leave as is" is not a solution, just a placeholder as Kagutsuchi pointed in another game) - meritocracy =/= biggest beatstick.

That said he does suffer from a version of Taylor Hebert syndrome... and for a good reason.
 
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I don't know of any way to hit the entire world, other than Creation-Destroying Oblivion Kick. What are you thinking of?

I think over the horizon archery something can hit most of the vastly reduced world. Though I may be misremembering how much world is actually left and therefore completely wrong.

1. He is more competent than most in most things he's interested in.
2. Disagreement with protagonist wasn't on "who is more competent", but on "what world should be" which takes priority. Also "force of arms" is not most compelling argument about competency about creating new world (and "leave as is" is not a solution, just a placeholder as Kagutsuchi pointed in another game) - meritocracy =/= biggest beatstick.

He does suffer from a version of Taylor Hebert syndrome... and for a good reason.

I'd argue holding his belief in a meritocracy to the point where he would not let someone who's better at that sort of thing dissuade him from it is a bit hypocritical. When your goal is to murder what's left of the world to create a new one based on your ideas, it's not unreasonable to hold you to a very high standard about those ideas. I'm also not so sure about his stance on big sticks, his wiki article says he looks down on civilians who's only real crime is not having sticks. He may not want to admit it, but in a pure meritocracy personal power becomes a major factor so biggest stick becomes a perfectly valid argument by his own philosophy. if you deserved to be in charge you wouldn't have been stopped.
 
I think over the horizon archery something can hit most of the vastly reduced world. Though I may be misremembering how much world is actually left and therefore completely wrong.
Ah, anywhere, not everywhere. That said, I can't actually find anything like that. I think people just miss the clause in Accuracy Without Distance that prevents it from extending the range of your weapon without further magic, or see it and assume there must be some charm somewhere that actually does that.
 
Level 6: Valid signature authority (VNAME [rindler.e25b64e8e5ea333c8e34158ba06b6bc8)]
Heh, no. It's a reference to... Ah, but that would be telling. You'll find out eventually~

As with most things in this quest, you could theoretically figure it out right now.
Going way back into the past (or one day, depending on your perspective), the physics model we're using is based on Schild's Ladder. The plot of Schild's Ladder is about an expanding patch of new laws of physics accidentally being created inside our universe, called the Novo-Vacuum. Eventually, some people on the research station floating just outside the Novo-Vacuum figure out how to translate themselves into the new cosmology. The research station is called Rindler. Combined with this bit:
[Sarumpaet-mode external interface layer unusable]
which confirms that where we are now has had causal contact with the physics Kagutsuchi merely emulates, I think we are currently inside the Novo-Vacuum, or something similar, that was created (but presumably not controlled) by the people on board Rindler. This would explain the frequency of both humans, and normal-physics emulations.
 
Going way back into the past (or one day, depending on your perspective), the physics model we're using is based on Schild's Ladder. The plot of Schild's Ladder is about an expanding patch of new laws of physics accidentally being created inside our universe, called the Novo-Vacuum. Eventually, some people on the research station floating just outside the Novo-Vacuum figure out how to translate themselves into the new cosmology. The research station is called Rindler. Combined with this bit:

which confirms that where we are now has had causal contact with the physics Kagutsuchi merely emulates, I think we are currently inside the Novo-Vacuum, or something similar, that was created (but presumably not controlled) by the people on board Rindler. This would explain the frequency of both humans, and normal-physics emulations.
No comment?

Actually, 'yup', though I'll leave figuring out how this matters to you guys.
 
Ah, anywhere, not everywhere. That said, I can't actually find anything like that. I think people just miss the clause in Accuracy Without Distance that prevents it from extending the range of your weapon without further magic, or see it and assume there must be some charm somewhere that actually does that.
There are. It's a set of Charms. One for exploding arrows, another for splitting an arrow into a small swarm of them, one that... I forget how this one works exactly but it's a Charm that let's you shoot at anywhere you can see as if you were 10 steps away from it.
 
Well, it probably means that Amu accidentally triggering a false vacuum collapse is significantly less likely?

Also "why Exaltations can attach to Amalaverse humans".
The closest Amu could get to triggering a vacuum collapse would be to kill off Kagutsuchi for real, it's otherwise as collapsed as it's going to get. Yes.

And they're all humans, yup. I like to make my aliens significantly more alien, so... at least to me, their common ancestry would have been obvious from the start.
 
There are. It's a set of Charms. One for exploding arrows, another for splitting an arrow into a small swarm of them, one that... I forget how this one works exactly but it's a Charm that let's you shoot at anywhere you can see as if you were 10 steps away from it.
The only charm I could find that ignores range limits was an elder essence charm that lets you shoot someone as long as you are both standing under sunlight, but Amu can't learn that and there's no sun here.
 
The only charm I could find that ignores range limits was an elder essence charm that lets you shoot someone as long as you are both standing under sunlight, but Amu can't learn that and there's no sun here.
Wouldn't that be likely to depend on the Invictus' particular sunlight, even?

On an unrelated note... now that you've figured out what's what, you may wish to read the prologue to this story. Or not. It's a bit like asking you to read up on star formation. :p
 
He's better than yhvh every time. Remember to kill your local God!

I actually do like how Apocalypse has it that the Great Will is willing to have him 'Fired' from his position as one of its avatars simply because he's gotten too fucking crazy over the years--and how even the outcome that doesn't permakill the guy still ends up with him being denied his divinity and turned into a Demon.
 
Wouldn't that be likely to depend on the Invictus' particular sunlight, even?
The target can be under any open sky, but it seems like the user needs to be standing outside under the actual sun until the Essence 10 upgrade which allows for any source of sunlight (including the solar anima with Rising Sun Soul).
 
I actually do like how Apocalypse has it that the Great Will is willing to have him 'Fired' from his position as one of its avatars simply because he's gotten too fucking crazy over the years--and how even the outcome that doesn't permakill the guy still ends up with him being denied his divinity and turned into a Demon.
Yeah, it seems like killing off lesser parts of the Great Will is making it a better person somehow. Doesn't one of the games lampshade that?
 
Yeah, it seems like killing off lesser parts of the Great Will is making it a better person somehow. Doesn't one of the games lampshade that?

well that is how therapy works for primordials. keep killing the craziest of their second and third circle souls and eventually they end up sane. They may now how a perfectly rational reason to want to murder you, but they will be quite sane about how they go about it.
 
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well that is how therapy works for primordial. keep killing the craziest of their second and third circle souls and eventually they end up sane. They may now how a perfectly rational reason to want to murder you, but they will be quite sane about how they go about it.
That makes an absurd amount of sense for smt as well as being canon for Exalted.
 
Actually, 'yup', though I'll leave figuring out how this matters to you guys.
Well, the thing in Amu's head calls itself
[Exoself version 2.718.28 β182 "Sera" initiating hot boot]
and "Exoself" is a Greg Egan term. Combined with its knowledge of Sarumpaet rules, despite them being long since rendered irrelevant, I'm going to guess that Sera derives from the person/environment interface software used on-board Rindler, though it's clearly been modified since to handle new substrates and suffered some kind of serious damage at some point in the past. Important questions from here: Who put this software in the Humpty Lock, where did they get it from, and why? How did it get damaged? What features does it have? We should ask it if it comes with a user manual.
 
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