Shards of a Broken Sun [Deprecated; see link in final post for remake]
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Baughn
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As Yagami said, he has a son Yui's age. Also a daughter, but she's quite a lot younger. ^_-
Who's stalking? Certainly not Mato, she'd walk there right next to Yui.
It'd be more about getting to know her.
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Hyacinthium
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The funny is a scream
Mato clearly has a lot to learn about being a cool mysterious badass.
Baughn
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She likes playing basketball with her friends, chatting, running, searching for (and showing off) cute plushies, training, very occasionally hiking... she's never yet fallen in love, but she loves cheering on friends who have, and she's got a talent for singing, though not one she's used much yet.
There isn't a 'cool, mysterious' bone in her body, is my point.
(She'd be great at singing, if you could ever convince her to try. Of course she would. You know who she is, her stage name is already set.)
Nah. See Rock pulled off the bad-ass, never tried to bother being mysterious though. Pulled off cool just coincidentally.
Matou was a...:
This.
So combined it gets... weird.
Hyacinthium
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Ah
Remember all the YouTube comments explaining that Brs and Miku aren't the same? Those days. Ah. Wait that still happens lol.
Remember all the YouTube comments explaining that Brs and Miku aren't the same? Those days. Ah. Wait that still happens lol.
Baughn
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Well, they're not exactly wrong. The best interpretation would probably be that Mato is a role Miku plays, or (in this case) vice versa...
It's really just a mythology gag, but yeah, in the unlikely event that Mato goes on the stage she'll call herself Miku.
All this talk about singing and no mention of the TRUE HERO WHO'S VOICE WARDS AWAY THE DARKNESS
I am
Of course
Asking why would you need nukes when youve got a fire bomber?
I am
Of course
Asking why would you need nukes when youve got a fire bomber?
al103
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Now questions is did said children already met red dinosaur for the second time and if daughter got second cat for the family.
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Og Black Rock Shooter doesn't have anything to do with Miku tho. Their somewhat and superficial design similarities are coincidence. Lots of people had no idea and thought it was just Miku in the brs song though.
Baughn
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Changing tracks for a minute...
Without commenting on the implications, Amu is perfectly well aware that she could become good at essentially anything, given enough time. She's not by nature terribly secretive, but she's smart enough to not immediately want to shout that out everywhere, either.
So, how much of that potential would you like her to make Hotsuin aware of?
In the limit, you could say "none" and she can change her mind later, but there's an element of this little recap that'll go better for her if she's open about herself. I could, and probably will just give you a chance to vote at that point, but if this is something you want to decide in advance then that works.
Without commenting on the implications, Amu is perfectly well aware that she could become good at essentially anything, given enough time. She's not by nature terribly secretive, but she's smart enough to not immediately want to shout that out everywhere, either.
So, how much of that potential would you like her to make Hotsuin aware of?
In the limit, you could say "none" and she can change her mind later, but there's an element of this little recap that'll go better for her if she's open about herself. I could, and probably will just give you a chance to vote at that point, but if this is something you want to decide in advance then that works.
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Hotsuin's the kind of crazy meritocracy guy right? ok so how would he responded to finding out that we can focus on anything to become superhumanly good at it, with our limiting factor being how much we want to be broad or tall.
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That's the exact question being asked to us, by Baughn.
no, baughn is asking how much we want to tell them. I'm wondering how the fact that we could become competent at anything would interact whit his whole fanatical views on meritocracy thing.
edit: unless I've misread something or gotten the characters mixed up.
No, but the question is the same difference, because how much we tell him is dependent on how he would react.
More usefulness flags means more resources Hotsuin will allow Amu access to
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I would argue pointing out the main facet of his philosophy in play here, and making sure I'm putting the right craziness to the right name isn't quite re stating the question. but hey, to each their own.
moving on, given he's dedicated to pure meritocracy rather than fairness I suspect we would not have to worry about him deciding our ability is cheating or unfair, but the main issue is will he care about it? He likely has already deduced that we will surpass him given time but he seems more dedicated to brining about the world shaped by his beliefs than practicing them. No matter how strong we are I suspect so long as he thinks we are not onboard with his plan anything we tell him will just be taken as Intel on a possible threat/useful pawn. He may even try and direct our growth down paths that would not be able to directly oppose him.
Which is both stupid and impossible anyway. Solars cannot be chained except, possibly, by other Solars. Of course he doesn't know that.
And as you brought up, the problem is that while he may be meritocratic, he also most certainly has his own ambitions and plans for everything. And humans so often react to things that are too dangerous as opposed to only what is actually a threat.
So... UMIs?
We should definitely make Hotsuin aware that our current specialities aren't binding, or even particularly limiting, which will hopefully shut down his attempt at pushing us into combat.
More generally, my understanding is that Hotsuin is a True Believer, so it should be possible to win him over to our side by proving ourselves competent enough. Note that this hasn't happened yet, he was not nearly as impressed with us as the generals were.
In the short term, we're both on the same side, so we don't want to keep so much from him it damages our ability to work together.
More generally, my understanding is that Hotsuin is a True Believer, so it should be possible to win him over to our side by proving ourselves competent enough. Note that this hasn't happened yet, he was not nearly as impressed with us as the generals were.
In the short term, we're both on the same side, so we don't want to keep so much from him it damages our ability to work together.
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Which is both stupid and impossible anyway. Solars cannot be chained except, possibly, by other Solars. Of course he doesn't know that.
And as you brought up, the problem is that while he may be meritocratic, he also most certainly has his own ambitions and plans for everything. And humans so often react to things that are too dangerous as opposed to only what is actually a threat.
So... UMIs?
solars cannot be chained, but they can be misdirected. For example he could finagle things so we need to solve a type of problem that needs skills to solve that can't be used to directly oppose him.
I'm not so sure about that. in cannon even when defeated he died cursing the pc(going off a half remembered lets play, so I could be wrong) despite by his own philosophy them proving themselves correct. He's kind of a hypocrite, so unless we UMI him into a puddle he's going to want to stab us in the back and establish his pure meritocracy. Even if we pounded the idea of it being silly that a mediocre soldier can push around the worlds best basket weaver or whatever into him he would most likely just change his final world a bit so you can always clash with your best skill.* he's fanatic enough I don't think we can turn him from his path without levels of free will violation someone at Amu's compassion rank would object to.
*which would be an interesting world to see actually.
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Except he's still mortal and we run on narrative casualty. Which means we would notice eventually IC, and probably much sooner OoC since we already predicted this much, and as soon as that Investigation Ability ticks up a few dots...
Nevermind the Socialize dots we're going to be grabbing would probably let us slip through that like an eel already.
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possibly, but it would only have to work enough that we spend some exp to deal with the fire in front of us to give him an advantage. It would also let him know he can't assume we are going to be socially blind forever. If he manages to not talk to us directly and only through proxies who think he's on the up and up even if we upped social we would have trouble realizing he's up to something. Keep in mind that we have so many different failure states that he doesn't have to win to make us lose, just make us stumble at the wrong time. I'm not worried about him succeeding, I'm worried about him doing damage and distracting from other problems while making his play.
edit: I'm not sure if the fact that we have so many different ways to lose that no individual enemy has good odds of winning is hearting or depressing.
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Except the proxies talking to us is a failure point on his end as well. It's a pattern we can see and exploit. Very, very quickly is we bother trying really.
I mean, unless he's constantly using new proxies, we'll flip one of them very quickly from Presence rolls. We might not have much, or any, right now, but we will eventually.
But yeah, if he doesn't need long, then we could have an issue.
... So, UMIs?
(Just once I would like to see a forum based Exalted Character whip out a UMI. It'll never actually happen though.)
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... So, UMIs?
if we had Conviction as our main virtue yes. But we took compassion so we are going to have to keep on the compassion 6 side of actual mind control. Though if we up or persuasion to the point of being almost a UMI we might be able to convince him to submit to his better but I doubt it, he'll likely hold us disagreeing with him as solid proof that we are below him when it comes to judgment.
and yeah, it would be interesting to see an exalt who used UMI's but that kind of casual violation of agency rubs too many people the wrong way for it to happen on a voting based quest, unless the player base is specifically going sociopath.