Rosario and Joestar
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Wasn't that because Zeppeli screwed up the process, not because Speedwagon was a bad Ripple candidate?
Leingod
Immaculate Blooming Lotus
Nope, he flat-out told Speedwagon that he just didn't have the potential for it.
I have no idea where your getting the talent thing from. That's news to me. As for zeppelin screwing up? I remember that he admitted he screwed up to speedwagon and hadn't really planned on giving him the ripple up until he actually came with them to fight DIO.
Nope he said he screwed up.
Leingod
Immaculate Blooming Lotus
Either that's a difference between the manga and the recent anime or I'm completely misremembering.
Never read the manga. But I would be surprised if they retconned for the anime that everyone and their mother could use ripple but some people have an easier time learning it and getting better with it.
That's what I meant by it not being a sure thing.
My understanding is that Jonathan (and his son, George II and grandson Joseph) had a natural proclivity for the Ripple anyway, as seen by Joseph's self-taught usage of it. Zeppeli's technique simply sped up the timeframe for learning how to use the Ripple, compared to his own apparent near lifetime of study.
Given Zeppeli's skill and experience I'd wager that hitting the 'target' point is rather like trying to hit the tip of a needle perfectly with another needle tip.
FAKE EDIT: I was under the impression that Zeppeli screwed up the technique as well.
Jonathan himself is noted as being somewhat ridiculously potent with the Ripple.
I have a vague recollection of reading that George II supposedly had the same potential ability with the Ripple as his father but simply never had the tutelage to use it. Not sure where though so I can't back that up.
Joseph himself obviously has some talent in it given he's largely self-taught, although I suppose that he could have had some basic initiation in it from some of the surviving Ripple users from Phantom Blood, especially after George II died. I'm not sure if it's ever confirmed that Joseph is entirely self-taught.
Just checked the chapter where Speedwagon asks to be taught the ripple (Vol3 Ch 24. Invitation to a trap). Zeppeli explains only one-in-ten thousand are capable of using the Ripple and tells Speedwagon that he lacks the willpower to do so.
Speedwagon agrees that he lacks the willpower, but he keeps pushing because he can't just stand by and watch his best friend put his life in danger. Zeppeli relents, and admits the technique he used on Jonathan should let Speedwagon generate the Ripple, if a really weak one.
And then Zeppeli screws up the technique.
Speedwagon agrees that he lacks the willpower, but he keeps pushing because he can't just stand by and watch his best friend put his life in danger. Zeppeli relents, and admits the technique he used on Jonathan should let Speedwagon generate the Ripple, if a really weak one.
And then Zeppeli screws up the technique.
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Ronall
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Well Kakyoin DID feed a baby its own crap...
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... He isn't self taught. That's kind of the point of the second season. He had such natural aptitude that he naturally knew how to pull off some of the uses of the ripple without formal training but he still had to undergo formal training to get good at using the ripple. Even then I would only put his skill as average of what a master could pull off with no specialties on top of that. He has "mastery" of the ripple but he didn't really do all that much more with it then anyone else did. Part of why I love that season, he just took the average abilities and managed to be extremely clever with them.
To be fair the baby tried to kill him and all his friends. And very nearly succeeded except for sheer dumb luck.
That's what I meant by self-taught, he was doing it in a clumsy way but he was certainly using the Ripple before he got whipped into shape. Which is pretty darn impressive all on it's own.
And yes, Joseph's best quality is just how very, very clever he is with the tools at his disposal. That's one of the best parts of him I think, other Jojo's feel like their fighting is based fully on their 'ability' whereas Joseph's power is just another tool among many.
Too be fair to Gin, I'm reasonably sure that his sliminess was toned down after his stint as an antagonist.
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Hope we didn't screw up with Mizore.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
[X]Put the ventilation grate back in its proper place. Honestly, this guy...!
-[X]On second thought, he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
-[X]On second thought, he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
Leingod
Immaculate Blooming Lotus
You can really chalk up most of his worse moments to the fact that he's in a cliche harem manga where the artist doesn't understand the difference between "lovable but perverted" and "sex offender." Plus, this is Youkai Academy, where morality is a fair bit looser than most places, and he is a dog.
Tsukune's made worse first impressions on his haremettes, so I'm sure we're fine.
[X]Put the ventilation grate back in its proper place. Honestly, this guy...!
-[X]On second thought, he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
-[X]On second thought, he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
solodark28
If only I could have done things differently
[X]Put the ventilation grate back in its proper place. Honestly, this guy...!
-[X]On second thought,he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
Let him start his shit with Moka and Tsukune again. It will give Kujo a real reason to fuck him up and make Gin regret he ever started shit. On the plus side it will give us a chance to show off in front of our affiliates.
-[X]On second thought,he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
Let him start his shit with Moka and Tsukune again. It will give Kujo a real reason to fuck him up and make Gin regret he ever started shit. On the plus side it will give us a chance to show off in front of our affiliates.
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RadiantPhoenix
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[X] Nothing. Absolutely goddamn nothing.
Ridiculously Average Guy
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[X]Put the ventilation grate back in its proper place. Honestly, this guy...!
-[X]On second thought, he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
there is a nonzero chance that this will end in hilarity. also seems to give the most depth to Ginei.
-[X]On second thought, he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
there is a nonzero chance that this will end in hilarity. also seems to give the most depth to Ginei.
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[X]Put the ventilation grate back in its proper place. Honestly, this guy...!
-[X]On second thought, he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
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[X]Start somethin- wait, it's that guy who alerted those babes in the changing room to your presence yesterday afternoon. And besides, class is going to start in a few minutes. Don't start something after all.
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[x]Start somethin- wait, it's that guy who alerted those babes in the changing room to your presence yesterday afternoon. And besides, class is going to start in a few minutes. Don't start something after all.
-[x] After Class on the other hand...
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##### 3.21
[X]Put the ventilation grate back in its proper place. Honestly, this guy...!
-[X]On second thought, he kicked down the grate, he should be the one to have to put it back.
No. of votes: 12
ShadowAngelBeta, fitzgerald, jgalue1, Guilop, Leingod, Restalaan, King Arthur, mithril-blade, solodark28, Blasterbot, sgt tim, sweetd
[X]Start somethin- wait, it's that guy who alerted those babes in the changing room to your presence yesterday afternoon. And besides, class is going to start in a few minutes. Don't start something after all.
No. of votes: 11
Baroque, Blaster90, Hyp3rB14d3, Pipeman, Enjou, Lessthanyouthink, Archshot, NSMS, Daniel14541, MacroDaemon, snake
[x]Start somethin- wait, it's that guy who alerted those babes in the changing room to your presence yesterday afternoon. And besides, class is going to start in a few minutes. Don't start something after all.
-[x] After Class on the other hand...
No. of votes: 1
Tomsawyer18
[X] Nothing. Absolutely goddamn nothing.
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Krain, Insufficient Dakka, RadiantPhoenix, Ridiculously Average Guy
