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XenonPrime said:
I wouldn't count on the Ripple affecting all monsters the same way, we burned the Gorgon but at the moment there could be any number of differing factors to explain that beyond 'all monsters are vulnerable to the Ripple'.

And we certainly shouldn't assume that Rosario Vampires will be extra vulnerable, I agree that her blood transformation may be vulnerable, given that Ripple energy flows through it well.
I confess that I'd also want to avoid getting into close combat with her, the girl's a god damned blender, even if we could fry her blood with a touch I wouldn't like our chances of surviving to get close enough to do it.

I'd much rather work through metal or thread than trying to lay a hand on her, or ideally Ripple charged water.
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EvaUnit01 said:
If you became a vampire, you would lose Ripple access. Not because it would kill you via sunlight weakness, but because it would interfere with your own youkai energy. Of course, you could still use Ripple until the transformation is complete, but afterward it'd be like Straights. But not as bad. Instead of outright killing you from the inside out, the hamon breathing would just fuck with your internal organs a bit. Because I have to put SOME kind of limitation on you guys being too much of a game breaker, can't let them stack for free....

You would, of course, still have usual Stand access.The Tsukune interlude will probably not be what you're hoping it to be.

I'm afraid I don't understand.
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This is the only reason why we couldn't use the ripple as a vampire. You need to understand that all r+V monsters use Youkai. Even to just turn into a human. So it does hurt all monsters. Vampires use Youkai to do all their different abilities. They just happen to have a ton of it. So if jotaro fully mastered the ripple he would be any monsters worst enemy if he can get close enough to hit them. It's not that their extra vurunable it's that we are going to be hitting them stupidly hard while at the same time pumping ripple energy into their bodies.
 
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nightblade said:
This is the only reason why we couldn't use the ripple as a vampire. You need to understand that all r+V monsters use Youkai. Even to just turn into a human. So it does hurt all monsters.
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Ok, that's a good point. I'll concede that the Ripple will most likely hurt the monsters we encounter. I'll still hold reservations but that's just my suspicions of monster trickery, I wouldn't be surprised if some monsters in their true form were more or less resistant due to using less 'Youkai' energy internally.
I wonder if that clash means that Ripple might be more effective against some monsters in their human form than their monster form?

Krain said:
We're playing a stoic badass, who thinks that he's completely obvious about his emotions even when absolutely no one can read him.
And he's also actually a real softie, who cares deeply about those that are close to him.

...It's honestly pretty goddamn funny.
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Don't forget how amazingly nerdy Jotaro is his personal interests and hobbies. Looking at his interests makes you think of a sweater wearing middle-aged wildlife professor, rather than a badass vampire hunting delinquent.
 
XenonPrime said:
Ok, that's a good point. I'll concede that the Ripple will most likely hurt the monsters we encounter. I'll still hold reservations but that's just my suspicions of monster trickery, I wouldn't be surprised if some monsters in their true form were more or less resistant due to using less 'Youkai' energy internally.
I wonder if that clash means that Ripple might be more effective against some monsters in their human form than their monster form?



Don't forget how amazingly nerdy Jotaro is his personal interests and hobbies. Looking at his interests makes you think of a sweater wearing middle-aged wildlife professor, rather than a badass vampire hunting delinquent.
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Dont forget that Johnathan would've been an Archeologist, Joseph became a Real Estate Agent, and Dio was the leading expert on mammalian-feline crossbreeding before he turned into a vampire
 
XenonPrime said:
Ok, that's a good point. I'll concede that the Ripple will most likely hurt the monsters we encounter. I'll still hold reservations but that's just my suspicions of monster trickery, I wouldn't be surprised if some monsters in their true form were more or less resistant due to using less 'Youkai' energy internally.
I wonder if that clash means that Ripple might be more effective against some monsters in their human form than their monster form?
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It won't be less effective. You have to remember that most monsters need Youkai energy for their bodies to function. Only the ones that aren't different physically then humans don't. So witches and maybe vampires.
 
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nightblade said:
It won't be less effective. You have to remember that most monsters need Youkai energy for their bodies to function. Only the ones that aren't different physical then humans don't. So witches and maybe vampires.
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That's why I said some, I'd expect Yuki-onna and Succubi to be less vulnerable and I'd agree that Witches would be as hindered as regular humans.

Still, I suppose we'll just have to wait and see to find out the specifics, though I suspect you're more right than I.
 
XenonPrime said:
That's why I said some, I'd expect Yuki-onna and Succubi to be less vulnerable and I'd agree that Witches would be as hindered as regular humans.

Still, I suppose we'll just have to wait and see to find out the specifics, though I suspect you're more right than I.
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Actually Yuki-onna would be hurt bad. You have to remember that they run at a lower temperature then humans do and have ice claws and hair in their true form. And that the ripple does give off some heat. As for witches that would depend on how they channel their youkai.
 
Insufficient Dakka said:
Kars dodging that laser was an outlier.
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As was Joseph dodging another laser an Outlier, and then Old Man Joseph reacting to Silver Chariot trying to stab him in the face by surprise.

The same Silver Chariot which intercepted a beam of light while it was in flight.

FTL isn't an outlier in Jojo. Especially when it comes to characters who fight each other on relatively even terms.

An Outlier is something which requires a definition other than "I don't like this so it doesn't count", after all. However, if you pull the "realism" card I'm afraid that I'll have to find some way to get across how much I'm laughing in your face over the internet.

That would be troublesome, so please refrain from forcing me to do so.
 
Joseph didn't dodge a laser, he reflected a pressurized blast of fluid using a shot glass by predicting where it was going based off of a previous attack.

Unless I'm thinking of a different scene entirely.
 
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