JoJos are not vampiric; I specifically mentioned that extensive human-focused breeding would have removed almost all vampire heritage from the bloodline, thus rendering them more-or-less a family of humans who have a weird, ridiculously-inheritable birthmark. I mean, most R+V monsters don't seem to have mutagenic DNA (which would be required for traits to be inheritable for more than 200 years without external contributions- or, to be more explicit, without more of the ancestor's species breeding with one of the descendants), so extensive dilution to the point that they are, for all practical purposes, purebred members of the other species is, indeed, possible.

Basically, if about 99% of their DNA is human, then they'd most likely be able to use Ripple without ill effect... and frankly, probability dictates that MORE than 99% of JoJo DNA was human by the time JJBA started.

Look at it this way: Can you actually say for certain that the first Ripple JoJo wasn't Jonathan? That'd make it... like, 350-ish years of diluting the bloodline (depending on when the proto-Joestar marriage occurred), thus rendering him basically safe, since that'd be a minimum of about 15 generations between him and Akasha if this guess is accurate- I mean, that's 1/32,768 (yes, just over one thirty-three THOUSANDTH) at 15 generations, and it'd just get more diluted as time passed; the vampiric heritage would probably be pretty much negligible within 8 generations, and it may actually be completely GONE on a genetic level (except for the apparently-mutagenic birthmark) by the time Jonathan was born.

In short: Your assertion that the first Ripple JoJo would have burst into flames at his first attempt to use Ripple basically assumes that the child of a human and a vampire will always be 100% vampire, without exception. Simple math, on the other hand, indicates that, at least by the time Jonathan (the first of three known Ripple JoJos) was born, there was basically NO vampiric DNA left.

...This post kinda got away from me.
More that, if his ridiculous durability is a result of being an offspring of a vampire, then it would be more than enough to make him burst into flames.

at the minimum, it should have caused him discomfort as he used it if his durability is a result of any monstrous origin.
 
Does this mean Moka is Jotaro's great-(great-...)grand-aunt? Man, if Joseph discovers that, the family reunions will be even more awkward than they already are.
 
What a bizarre turn of events... I'll let myself out now.

Now in all seriousness, is this because Joseph didn't keep it in his pants again? :mad:
I mean seriously! The guy peeks on his mom in the bath and cheats on his wife with a woman from Japan, a country he proclaims to hate. What, you hate something until you find something in it that you can sleep with, Joseph Joestar? Well, this isn't a logical theory, since if that was the case, Moka wouldn't be a vampire, or at least a complete one.

Whatever the case, this mark might cause her to manifest a Stand, as hinted by the song Eva linked, so I wonder if she will manifest it before Stardust Crusaders and join us taking down DIO, or will she be struck with an illness like Holly and Josuke, and get her Stand after DIO dies?
 
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Btw, and I know this might be off-topic, is there any official word on what Holly's Stand would've been like if she'd have had the fortitude to control it? I know there's a theory about how her Stand was the one capable of implanting the flesh buds Dio used to control some of his more reluctant followers (going by another theory which I'm pretty sure is quasi-confirmed that Dio had access to all the Stands the Joestars developed. Minus Jotaro's Crazy Diamond, for some reason.)

Speaking of Holly, why is she not dying yet? Dip is already back on his/Jonathan's feet and making several other Joestar's develop Stands. Is she a late bloomer? Or am I misremembering something from earlier in the quest?
 
What a bizarre turn of events... I'll let myself out now.

Now in all seriousness, is this because Joseph didn't keep it in his pants again? :mad:
I mean seriously! The guy peeks on his mom in the bath and cheats on his wife with a woman from Japan, a country he proclaims to hate. What, you hate something until you find something in it that you can sleep with, Joseph Joestar? Well, this isn't a logical theory, since if that was the case, Moka wouldn't be a vampire, or at least a complete on.

Whatever the case, this mark might cause her to manifest a Stand, as hinted by the song Eva linked, so I wonder if she will manifest it before Stardust Crusaders and join us taking down DIO, or will she be struck with an illness like Holly and Josuke, and get her Stand after DIO dies?
Outer Moka does have some fighting spirit, shown by a few times where she fights when Tsukune isn't around to yank off the rosary, so she should be fine to manifest a stand if that's how that plays out.
 
Outer Moka does have some fighting spirit, shown by a few times where she fights when Tsukune isn't around to yank off the rosary, so she should be fine to manifest a stand if that's how that plays out.
Random brainstorming time: it would likely be a Stand with a dual nature of some kind, to play off her own situation, one part of it's powers usable by the Outer Moka, while the other part would be usable by the Inner One. Something like the ability to manipulate molecular vibrational frequency, with one of them able to increase it and the other able decrease it. I dunno.
Alternatively their Stand would maybe allow the currently inactive self to somehow affect the world around her in some way.
Or maybe they'd just get their own separate stand each if they count as two separate souls.
Which, if true, would make Outer Moka's fate in the manga even more tragic.
 
Nani??!?

Joseph you sly dog?! How many kids did you have? Should we check the back of the neck of the rest of the female cast just to be sure? If our snow angel is our Aunt because of you you're going to be reciveing a legendary beat down.

Very glad we decided not to go down that relationship path that be the most ackward conversation since Luke told Leia they were siblings

The only other possibility is DIO but he only recently got out of the ocean. Maybe if they timeline was different it could have been him.

Random brainstorming time: it would likely be a Stand with a dual nature of some kind, to play off her own situation, one part of it's powers usable by the Outer Moka, while the other part would be usable by the Inner One. Something like the ability to manipulate molecular vibrational frequency, with one of them able to increase it and the other able decrease it. I dunno.
Alternatively their Stand would maybe allow the currently inactive self to somehow affect the world around her in some way.
Or maybe they'd just get their own separate stand each if they count as two separate souls.
Which, if true, would make Outer Moka's fate in the manga even more tragic.


The song your looking for.

I imagine it'd take the form of whoever is in the backseat atm or at least is controlled by that backseat person
 
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Come to think of it, does Joseph look younger than he did iotl at this point?

Even if he is a slacker, with monsters being a thing known to be around (unlike the Pillar Men which were dealt with), I doubt he would have gotten as rusty with the Ripple as he did in canon and used it more regularly.
 
Hooooly crap she's part of our family!?
That's one hell of a twist.
I like it!
When I said not to let Auntie Moka spoil Jolyne too much, who guessed that a) I meant called her that literally, and b) that I was referring to Moka as Jotaro's aunt instead of Jolyene's?

...Or it could be from her sharing blood with us due to Inner Moka?
Moka putting her blood in Jotaro wouldn't affect Moka, other than lowering her power for a bit.
 
When I said not to let Auntie Moka spoil Jolyne too much, who guessed that a) I meant called her that literally, and b) that I was referring to Moka as Jotaro's aunt instead of Jolyene's?


Moka putting her blood in Jotaro wouldn't affect Moka, other than lowering her power for a bit.

I don't think anyone could have seen that coming

Heh just had a thought she was for the longest time terrified of her own dad. Her own father was pretty much her Darth Vader.

Now I kinda wish we had pursued it a little bit just so the Star Wars reference would be complete... and it would have been out so they can make that reference in universe
 
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Cheating is bad and all, but with Moka being the result of an affair I hope Josuke hasn't somehow been butterflied out of existence.
 
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Cheating is bad and all, but with Moka being the result of an affair I hope Josuke hasn't somehow been butterflied out of existence.
If I'm getting my timeline right ( and keep in mind this is just guesswork going by what we know of both canons) she was conceived when Moka's Mom and the other two monster lords were active but a ways after part 2 was over. Probably Joseph got sucked into their fight against Alucard and helped them seal the bastard. That's probably when they had their fling.

Joskue should be conceived around 5ish years after that ( as that's roughly when he was conceived) so I don't think he'd be butterfly'd away as both the time and location of the flings are pretty far apart.

And what's more I'm fairly certain Joseph has not even the faintest inkiling that Moka's his kid so either they were both drunk off their ass or Joseph was certain that there's no way in hell there could be a kid between a vampire and a human.

Wonder how this'll screw with the main story? If Moka's a Joestar that'll mean she has to get roped into the stardust crusade and if she gets pulled in the rest of the cast will surely follow
 
Cheating is bad and all, but with Moka being the result of an affair I hope Josuke hasn't somehow been butterflied out of existence.

Naw man, in the timeline Josuke is already 4 years old by Stardust Crusaders.

If I'm getting my timeline right ( and keep in mind this is just guesswork going by what we know of both canons) she was conceived when Moka's Mom and the other two monster lords were active but a ways after part 2 was over. Probably Joseph got sucked into their fight against Alucard and helped them seal the bastard. That's probably when they had their fling.

Joskue should be conceived around 5ish years after that ( as that's roughly when he was conceived) so I don't think he'd be butterfly'd away as both the time and location of the flings are pretty far apart.

And what's more I'm fairly certain Joseph has not even the faintest inkiling that Moka's his kid so either they were both drunk off their ass or Joseph was certain that there's no way in hell there could be a kid between a vampire and a human.

Wonder how this'll screw with the main story? If Moka's a Joestar that'll mean she has to get roped into the stardust crusade and if she gets pulled in the rest of the cast will surely follow

The Three Dark Lords vs Alucard was 200 years prior to the plot of Rosario + Vampire.

Again if she is Joseph's daughter (most likely and highly implied), then it's just another case of that idiotic, lazy, lovable Jojo not keeping it in his pants! I mean, Suzie Q was a beauty in part 2, but now that she's old, Joseph jumps inside a young (or young-looking) woman the moment he has the opportunity.

Now, when Moka will manifest a Stand, and I'm sure she will, then DIO will also get he ability, which potentially could be much more dangerous or with far greater potential than Star Platinum's.
If she joins the Stardust Crusaders, the rest of the gang might join in too just to help their friend (I know Tsukune will try). This begs the question: if Inner Moka get doughnutted by DIO, can she regenerate from it perfectly?
Also, Moka is immune to sunlight right? Do you guys really want a vampire, who is immune to light, fighting DIO, who will try to drink the blood of every Joestar to wank his Jonathan body further?

All in all, I would love to see Moka join the Crusaders, but how will Jotaro and Joseph learn about her birthmark for this scenario to occur?
 
Also, y'all have about 11 hours from this post to forward anything else for the Totally Superfluous Fourth Anniversary Q&A Special, any questions submitted after that will have to wait until next year.
 
Naw man, in the timeline Josuke is already 4 years old by Stardust Crusaders.



The Three Dark Lords vs Alucard was 200 years prior to the plot of Rosario + Vampire.

Again if she is Joseph's daughter (most likely and highly implied), then it's just another case of that idiotic, lazy, lovable Jojo not keeping it in his pants! I mean, Suzie Q was a beauty in part 2, but now that she's old, Joseph jumps inside a young (or young-looking) woman the moment he has the opportunity.

Now, when Moka will manifest a Stand, and I'm sure she will, then DIO will also get he ability, which potentially could be much more dangerous or with far greater potential than Star Platinum's.
If she joins the Stardust Crusaders, the rest of the gang might join in too just to help their friend (I know Tsukune will try). This begs the question: if Inner Moka get doughnutted by DIO, can she regenerate from it perfectly?
Also, Moka is immune to sunlight right? Do you guys really want a vampire, who is immune to light, fighting DIO, who will try to drink the blood of every Joestar to wank his Jonathan body further?

All in all, I would love to see Moka join the Crusaders, but how will Jotaro and Joseph learn about her birthmark for this scenario to occur?

Ah I suppose I should reread the manga I could have sworn her talking down Alucard was a recent thing. Regardless going by his reaction to her... it's not the one you'd expect from a fling. More like one you'd give someone you respect but are wary of. And she certainly was not fawning over Joseph like his other woman do.

And she clearly states the Mokas are HER daughters rather than OUR daughters ....

Which brings us back to the other therory of the Joestar line comeing from her rather then her giving birth to a Joestar. It's possible she had a fling with a human way back when and the vampire blood eventually got more or less breed out leaving only a "slightly" enhanced psylogy ( keep in mind Jonathan was able to put muscle a guy who can lift and break 100 ton boulders with his finger and Joseph in his prime spend almost a week dead climbing up a wall with no sleep or food. Sure they had Hamon but that doesn't explain all of it)

However the Joestar bloodline has an immense talent towards Hamon to the point that Joseph was born with it and Jotaro discovered it on his own and Johnathan was so damn strong the second he got it he started superchargeing the plants around him and healingba shattered arm in seconds. Seeing as Hamon is quite litteraly a anti monster energy it would not make sense for them to be so well tuned if they had monster ancestry.

Honestly not sure
 
Makes sense Cjdavis103, you make a lot of sense.

Okay, here are several nice questions for the anniversary: "Kurumu, aside from having your throat nearly ripped out by Hamon, what is the most painful experience in your life, and not just physically?"

Here's another one: "Joseph, if Lisa Lisa was still alive, would you have introduced her to Jotaro?"

A third: "Tsukune, now that you know of all these monsters and super powers exist, which one would you think would suit you the most? Vampiric powers like Inner Moka? A Stand or Hamon/Rippile that Jotaro uses?"

Eva, if you want to pick one or more of these questions, I'll be honored.
 
Can I get a phone in question for Joseph?

If so.

[Of all the places you've visited in you life which was the most breathtaking. And no not literally]

[Do you often use Hermit purple to find lost things like car keys?]

[Whats the handiest part of haveing a stand/Hamon in day to day life]
 
Ah I suppose I should reread the manga I could have sworn her talking down Alucard was a recent thing. Regardless going by his reaction to her... it's not the one you'd expect from a fling. More like one you'd give someone you respect but are wary of. And she certainly was not fawning over Joseph like his other woman do.

And she clearly states the Mokas are HER daughters rather than OUR daughters ....

I think you're over thinking things here.

Akasha and Joseph could have had a fling and he could still be wary of her power, especially showing up the way she did (as the result of an enemy Stand).

He hid tears as 'Akasha' faded, and both hinted at...knowing each other.

And if the actual Akasha never got around to telling Joseph about his kid (Tomoko didn't either, mind) why would her copy spill the beans?
 
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Also, y'all have about 11 hours from this post to forward anything else for the Totally Superfluous Fourth Anniversary Q&A Special, any questions submitted after that will have to wait until next year.
... Might as well.

To the Youkai Academy Principal: How many graduates become, if not outstanding pillars of society, then at least well-adjusted individuals? Average per-year.

To Joseph or Avdol, whoever is more interested: If Jotaro wasn't accepted into Youkai Academy, he would not end up that badly damaged in a fight, would not develop Hamon, would not call upon his Grandfather for training. This grandfather would have no reason to remember his own Hamon training or share any information about Stands with impressionable kids. What would be your... Guess, at least, about the ripple effect this might have in the future?

To Jun Jin Gin-san: What do you think about people with naturally wavy/curly hair, or about black trenchcoats and fedoras?
 
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Also, y'all have about 11 hours from this post to forward anything else for the Totally Superfluous Fourth Anniversary Q&A Special, any questions submitted after that will have to wait until next year.
Dio and not-Dracula, which of you two would win in a fight vs each other?
Nurari: What was it like raising that fighting maniac of an adopted son of yours? Also how aware are you of what's going on at school and general monster world, being Nurari and all?
Principal: what do you think of those asshole council people who're gonna be assholes?
 
I don't know much about Rosario, but didn't the Mokas have a pretty bad childhood, and messed up family dynamic in general? Considering how protective he is of Holly, I think Joseph's reaction to learning about this will be... interesting. Assuming she really is his daughter.

Edit: Also, I wonder if Jotaro's going to learn about it anytime soon? That's the most likely way for Joseph to hear about it. And does this mean anything for DIO's power level? We know he copies Stands, but could that extend to Moka's vampire abilities?
 
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"After his wife, Suzie Q, found out he played hide the herman[?] with another woman, she nearly castrated him with a melon baller. It was actually pretty funny."
-Jotaro Kujo, JJBATAS - DIU Episode 1.

If anyone haven't seen that on YouTube, it's not very good, but I found this first episode hilarious. That's also the kind of what I'd expect Suzie Q to try and do when she finds out Joseph cheated on her twice (if he did sleep with Akosha).
 
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