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Rosario and Joestar
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[X]Investigate the disturbance.
[X]Jotaro.
As much as I'd like to get into the old man's head again, I have a feeling it'd be more entertaining to see things from an outside perspective.
Also, more chance of maybe seeing Star Platinum stir up.
[X]Jotaro.
As much as I'd like to get into the old man's head again, I have a feeling it'd be more entertaining to see things from an outside perspective.
Also, more chance of maybe seeing Star Platinum stir up.
EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
It's more that I like everyone else so much better than Moka, than it is actually disliking Moka.
That said, I would put the same amount of effort into making a quality Moka Gaiden as I ever would/have done for any other [Character] Gaiden.
King Arthur
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You like Yukari more than Moka?
I cannot understand that whatsoever.
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Inner Moka is cool, Outer Moka is kind of terrible.
King Arthur
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Boooooooo.
I disagree is what I am trying to get at here, I like both.
EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
Yukari regularly pulls her own weight in fights. (Outer) Moka does not. Thus, edge to Yukari.
Both Mokas actively attempt to obstruct the formation/solidification of the harem. Yukari does not. Thus, massive edge to Yukari.
At the end of the day, though, it comes down to whether or not Yukari has that annoying-as-hell "desu~" verbal tic. If she has it, she's worse than Moka. If she does not have it, she's better than Moka.
That said, most of the time when I just say "Moka" in discussion, I'm specifically referring to Outer Moka. Inner Moka is a lot better (though she still loses a shitload of points for "I don't think you should engage in polygamy!").
King Arthur
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Gonna be straight with you, if I was dating a chick, love of my life, and people were like "hey, us, your five closest friends, would also like to date her. We know she likes all of us, come on, let's just be like her harem, it'll be great" I'd probably be like "no."
I don't blame someone for saying no to polygamy.
I don't blame someone for saying no to polygamy.
EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
Well, yes, but... that's realism.
This is animanga.
Although to be fair, I'd probably be less annoyed about it if not for, oh, pretty much all of the other love interests having more interesting dynamics and/or personalities than Moka does.
Also the fact that Moka, contrary to her protests, really does use Tsukune for her breakfast (and lunch, and assorted snacks, and probably even her dinner if she thought she could get away with it) on an alarmingly regular basis, to the point that it's a legitimate danger to Tsukune's health. Also the fact that Moka's outright admitted that she's addicted to his blood. And Tsukune, he just responds to that by being the mother (father?) of all enablers.
Now, I've never had an intimate relationship before... but I'm pretty sure those are not the hallmarks of a healthy one.
note: This continues even after Tsukune becomes a vampire, and it's promptly acknowledged in-universe as cannibalism.
So, yeah. Despite the smartass comments I make about harem obstruction, there really are some legitimate reasons why Moka makes me rather uncomfortable.
Hey man, we all have our guilty pleasures.
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Well, I suppose this explains why you've been having Ruby act this way.
EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
Also the fact that it's kinda-sorta-semi canonical.
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In my opinion Moka acts the way she does in regards to the idea of a harem because she was raised in a polyamorous household and to say her family ended up dysfunctional is an understatement.Well, yes, but... that's realism.
This is animanga.
Although to be fair, I'd probably be less annoyed about it if not for, oh, pretty much all of the other love interests having more interesting dynamics and/or personalities than Moka does.
Also the fact that Moka, contrary to her protests, really does use Tsukune for her breakfast (and lunch, and assorted snacks, and probably even her dinner if she thought she could get away with it) on an alarmingly regular basis, to the point that it's a legitimate danger to Tsukune's health. Also the fact that Moka's outright admitted that she's addicted to his blood. And Tsukune, he just responds to that by being the mother (father?) of all enablers.
Now, I've never had an intimate relationship before... but I'm pretty sure those are not the hallmarks of a healthy one.
note: This continues even after Tsukune becomes a vampire, and it's promptly acknowledged in-universe as cannibalism.
So, yeah. Despite the smartass comments I make about harem obstruction, there really are some legitimate reasons why Moka makes me rather uncomfortable.
Hey man, we all have our guilty pleasures.
So in her eyes she's seen the same song and dance before and she knows how it ends and it ain't pretty.
Then there's the fact that she knows tsukune only has eyes for her, so why bother sharing the prize when she knows it's already hers.
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Maybe wouldn't be fine with all of them but, I mean, one will literally die without it...so...
EvaUnit01
Kept you waiting, huh?
I'm willing to give ya that one, though if that is indeed the case, it could have been made more readily apparent.
It also seems a bit of a flawed comparison, because Gyokuro appears to have really, truly despised Akasha, whereas all of Tsukune's love interests are on remarkably good terms with each other.
Not entirely true. There were at least a couple of occasions where Kurumu managed to break through Tsukune's Moka-blinders.
Also, in the anime continuity, the final scene of Capu2 shows that Tsukune does have romantic feelings for ALL of his girls, and doesn't want to have to reject any of them if he can help it. ...and then... well....
Inner Moka said:
Tsukune said:
Inner Moka said:
....okay, so that's not the exact verbal exchange, but it's a reasonably close approximation.
Also worth noting that the individual in question might very well be willing to give up on Tsukune (and thus, give up her life) and let Moka win... if she were able to believe that Moka wouldn't kill the guy from excessively feeding on him.
I mean, seriously -- Kurumu's heart is even bigger than... ah... the other big thing that she's known for.
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Well I'm a jealous person in my relationships due to being selfish so I would say
"Hey bro, You remember that old saying: that they're plenty of fish in the sea? Well bro it's time for you to get up off your ass and start fishing all the way in lake backthefuckoff."
Good points but i think inner might, Might give the idea some consideration if it is clear from the start that in no order of importance:
1: She is the main wife, Tsukune's number 1 and as such her wants and needs are a magnitude more important than the others.
2: That the others remember that She is the one allowing them to be there, that they are simply concubines that she is so gracious to share her husband with.
3: There will be none of that crazy dysfunctional shit that will destroy her new family like it did the Shuzens.
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How can they pursue another relationship if they're dead?
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Necromancy.How can they pursue another relationship if they're dead?
Heresy
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The city of notmyproblemville has the best medical facilities in the idon'tgiveafuck hospital.How can they pursue another relationship if they're dead?
but seriously a friend stops being a friend when they trying to NTR me or another friend. Now granted the circumstances are crazy so if I like him better then her I'll just dump her and let him pick her up on the rebound, cuz fuck no I don't share.
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Quite honestly that would just make the whole situation worse. It would make everyone antagonistic towards each other rather than trying to find a solution where people don't have to die.
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That's why I like monogamic relationship. They're much easier to set up than all that "harem" business, and if you put as much effort into it as you'd put into building a "proper" harem, they're bound to work out in long term.
On the other hand, reading about harems is pretty amusing.
On the other hand, reading about harems is pretty amusing.