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Ah, Noelle raises an excellent point. Was Mr. Whaaa? just sandbagging, holding back his true power so that he'd seem like less.of a threat? Or does Socialite Butterfly has access to someone who can boost powers, whether temporarily or permanently? And if the latter, how does that interact with SB's power?
 
Arcus said:
No I agree, it is boring. And the main reason she's being targeted should be dealt with in the next two turns.

After that, how many people are actually going to risk drawing the ire of the biggest megacorporation in the city?
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It certainly makes my life easier in writing tension, and keeps Mona unique. Then again, that tension involves folks dying so 🤷🏻‍♂️.
 
Funny enough if SB is enhancing powers with a Scarlet Maturity clone then we're pretty much 3 for 3 on the bad guys having him as their buffer. (Assuming Princess is a power copier like it looks like she is)
 
...I just remembered something.

Bitterman said:
Just then, there's a telepathic scream in all of your ears, making you wince. A red aura springs to life around Valiant Gold as she snarls at Seraph.
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We never figured out who did this scream.

I think we assumed this was one of SB's clones (timed perfectly to ensure a fight with Crusade would break out)... but none of the ones currently visible would have been responsible for it, and SB said she didn't have a telepath. So either she had a clone that could simulate a telepathic scream (without being a true telepath), or...

...Actually, I'm not sure what the alternative would be. Maybe Seraph really did do the scream as part of a plan to draw attention so Stockpile could activate his psychic siphon freely?
 
ReaperofInterest said:
Ah, Noelle raises an excellent point. Was Mr. Whaaa? just sandbagging, holding back his true power so that he'd seem like less.of a threat? Or does Socialite Butterfly has access to someone who can boost powers, whether temporarily or permanently? And if the latter, how does that interact with SB's power?
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Or SB & clones count as self for a variety of powers
 
Parabola said:
...I just remembered something.


We never figured out who did this scream.

I think we assumed this was one of SB's clones (timed perfectly to ensure a fight with Crusade would break out)... but none of the ones currently visible would have been responsible for it, and SB said she didn't have a telepath. So either she had a clone that could simulate a telepathic scream (without being a true telepath), or...

...Actually, I'm not sure what the alternative would be. Maybe Seraph really did do the scream as part of a plan to draw attention so Stockpile could activate his psychic siphon freely?
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...that is a very good point. Given how Seraph is the only known psychic Crusade has, I had thought that SB was behind this via clone shenanigans as well. But if it isn't her, then there's only a few plausible scenarios that I can come up with.

1: It really was Seraph and she did it as part of a plan like you said.
2: Crusade has another psychic or someone with psytech on their payroll and they did it as part of a plan.
3: SB is having one of the other Philosophers and/or their subordinates help her with this.
4: Some rando is responsible for whatever reason.

I don't particularly like 4, just because of how vague it is, but I dislike 3 even more, as SB's psychotic rant seemed to all but outright say that she was doing this on her own and if the other Philosophers knew, they'd try to stop her, or at least sabotage her. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I really hope it was the dead woman, as that way we don't have to worry about whoever's responsible.
 
ReaperofInterest said:
...that is a very good point. Given how Seraph is the only known psychic Crusade has, I had thought that SB was behind this via clone shenanigans as well. But if it isn't her, then there's only a few plausible scenarios that I can come up with.

1: It really was Seraph and she did it as part of a plan like you said.
2: Crusade has another psychic or someone with psytech on their payroll and they did it as part of a plan.
3: SB is having one of the other Philosophers and/or their subordinates help her with this.
4: Some rando is responsible for whatever reason.

I don't particularly like 4, just because of how vague it is, but I dislike 3 even more, as SB's psychotic rant seemed to all but outright say that she was doing this on her own and if the other Philosophers knew, they'd try to stop her, or at least sabotage her. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I really hope it was the dead woman, as that way we don't have to worry about whoever's responsible.
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...Perhaps it really is just 1. VG was previously able to locate Seraph's position via her armor warning her, and in the quoted bit she does immediately accuse Seraph of doing the scream, she doesn't look elsewhere for it.
 
The edit prompted me to do some rereading which made me realize we actually got a little perspective on what the relationship is between the Philosophers and Crusade. I think it's not as dark and daunting as it's sometimes made out to be!

Bitterman said:
That is exactly the kind of opening those fools in Crusade need to do our dirty work."
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Sure, they're happy using Crusade as cats-paws and that they're furthering the Philosophers aims, but they don't really have control over them.

Bitterman said:
And then daddy-dearest will have to obey his true betters rather than run to the Horae Guard!"
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And the Osanyin-Horae Guard partnership seems somewhat beyond them, which appears to be a matter of quite some consternation!
 
Parabola said:
...Perhaps it really is just 1. VG was previously able to locate Seraph's position via her armor warning her, and in the quoted bit she does immediately accuse Seraph of doing the scream, she doesn't look elsewhere for it.
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Maybe. Maybe. The simplest answer is the easiest to prove or disprove, after all.

Anyway...regarding Yara getting the psychic invulnerability synergy, I wouldn't mind going for it, though mainly because I'm curious to see how a synergy version of Invulnerable would differ from a regular one. Add in that it needs Clairvoyance and Teleportation, and if she retains those abilities in the synergy, then I'd honestly consider that even more useful than keeping her safe. After all, just being able to dip out of a situation would make things a lot easier right now, to say nothing of everything else we're going to have to handle and run into.
 
ReaperofInterest said:
Maybe. Maybe. The simplest answer is the easiest to prove or disprove, after all.

Anyway...regarding Yara getting the psychic invulnerability synergy, I wouldn't mind going for it, though mainly because I'm curious to see how a synergy version of Invulnerable would differ from a regular one. Add in that it needs Clairvoyance and Teleportation, and if she retains those abilities in the synergy, then I'd honestly consider that even more useful than keeping her safe. After all, just being able to dip out of a situation would make things a lot easier right now, to say nothing of everything else we're going to have to handle and run into.
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Yeh Invulenrability+Teleportation is great way not to die.
 
To be honest Eidolon has really highlighted how much we need a teleporter of some kind, for me. Doesn't have to be Yara but I definitely wouldn't complain about doing a Memoria build for whoever else we empower next time.
 
You know, the more I think about Socialite Butterfly, the more I wonder if people ever speculate about what helps determine power expression in-character. I mean look at her, she's a psychopath who clearly considers other people her toys to use and break as she sees fit, and thinks that the world should bend over backwards for her every whim. But looking at her power, which seems practically tailor-made for such a person, I have to wonder if she got the exact power she did because she was always a nutjob, or if being able to replace actual people with glorified dolls that obey her every command, presumably at a relatively young age since no one had ever heard of her and she was able to go into hiding after Yazmin almost got her replacement parents investigated and no one in their social circles seemed to notice her going missing, wound up influencing her to become such a lunatic.

Admittedly at this point the answer is at best academic, as she's already done so much horrible stuff that she'd probably get multiple lifetimes in prison at best if she was ever put through a court. Whether she was always a monster and her power merely gave her more methods to express it with, or if she was once a relatively innocent child who wound up getting a power that encouraged her to stop caring about others as actual people from the sheer usefulness it provided, the woman she is now needs to be stopped.

The old chicken-or-egg argument, given new ground as it were. It's probably not something that we need to worry about too much for our candidates, given that we're the ones designing powers and we're making heroes, but I just wanted to bring it up.
 
ReaperofInterest said:
The old chicken-or-egg argument, given new ground as it were. It's probably not something that we need to worry about too much for our candidates, given that we're the ones designing powers and we're making heroes, but I just wanted to bring it up.
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I mean, there's already plenty we can read into our non-EB three.

Mona, a girl bursting with positive energy and love for other people and a sense of justice strong as iron, has become a soaring, beautiful, indestructable force of nature.

Rhys, a guy who always felt like he doesn't belong or has been overlooked, became someone who can become whatever or whoever he wants.

John Henry, a patriarch reeling from the loss of his eldest daughter with an intelligent mind, can keep an eye on everyone and protect them from whatever harm might come.
 
I have to say I'm very tempted to forward the RH Memoria build onto Yara. Part of it is cause of how her stats and personality is placed. But another of cause of the irony of giving Red Huntress power set onto Yara, the very person Socialite Butterfly is trying to copy and kill. It feels both like such a prize and mockery intertwined.

Well, I have reserved plans for a Seraph build depending on what Rosemary's baby could do, in case people disagree with Scaly Teleporting Build.
 
EternalObserver said:
I have to say I'm very tempted to forward the RH Memoria build onto Yara. Part of it is cause of how her stats and personality is placed. But another of cause of the irony of giving Red Huntress power set onto Yara, the very person Socialite Butterfly is trying to copy and kill. It feels both like such a prize and mockery intertwined.

Well, I have reserved plans for a Seraph build depending on what Rosemary's baby could do, in case people disagree with Scaly Teleporting Build.
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In my Part I've pivoted to Seraph+Memoria Build since its maximum Survivability while giving us 2 Power We want.

Telepathy to counter outher Telepaths and Teleportation for Evac and Infiltration.
 
I for one think that Seraph and Miss Conception together would have some really strong deception capabilities. Imagine being able to inflict mental illusions on people. The shell games we could pull. The sneaky tactics. The deception.

And the invisibility would be cool too.
 
Considering Seraph's use of Light element, I think Crimson Soprano's a nice combo with her, with that Solar Absorption tag.

I may have plans:tm: depending on where RB goes. I'm not opposed to Seraph + Memoria tho. Miss Conception is nice but I wish there was a slightly cheaper version for Invisibility.
 
Arcus said:
After that, how many people are actually going to risk drawing the ire of the biggest megacorporation in the city?
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Tbf if using Seraph's power for the Yara set, we know that Telepaths do not last long in Horizon generally for a reason and there is just such a stack up of reasons why she would be targeted even post getting boosted. Maybe Frostbite over Steadfast/Hydrocity but the general principle remains.

I think we could get away with Invis over Invuln if doing the Shroud synergy via Red Huntress given the Shroud synergy's components and enhanced speed.

On the Feth build we could get away without it most likely, but I want it anyway I think. Specifically because I'm hoping that something like Feth/Crimson/Steadfast/Hydrocity/Multiplex/Hunch would open up being able to turn into mist off the general power and Invuln + the transform, which would be a fun way to backdoor it in.
 
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Pawn Lelouch said:
Tbf if using Seraph's power for the Yara set, we know that Telepaths do not last long in Horizon generally for a reason and there is just such a stack up of reasons why she would be targeted even post getting boosted. Maybe Frostbite over Steadfast/Hydrocity but the general principle remains.
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Disguising the telepathy with an auditory component could help for concealment.

I get the suspicion the Invulnerability tag on Frostbite is probably more focused around being immune to temperature changes though.


Also, if nothing else, it helps to remember that the Invulnerability tag does not confer immunity to goldnine. It's a strong keyword, but I think there's a bit of tunnel vision surrounding it. The reason we've gotten 7 Invulnerable DNA samples is because those metahumans all died.
 
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