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Yeah, if anything we should be putting shields on Leizi, she's actively engaged in combat against Silvio and has no defences.

Also note that giving Yara shields is redundant if she also has the generator, they can't stack.
 
...i guess Physical and Mental damage are completwlt different things. I think we keep forgetting that BS is well...bs. Seeing Injury Levels kinda makes people tunnelvision. Sorry Bitterman!
 
Okay anyone object to giving them to Leizi/VG for being the squishy doing peer fighting and fighting the hp draining enemy respectively?
 
Black Swan is our heaveist hitter and she has crippling vulnerability to Seraph's powers, she is heavily injured and we need her power to destroy those evil clones of New Dawn.

But fine, we will leave her totally vunerable, but if she dies or others die because she wasn't there, you (@Ferb_Ancos) are 100% to blame.
 
So I technically have a mechanics question
That's kind of just a reminder on my part dose menagerie witch get bonuses for revenge when attacking
Because if she does, it might be useful to send the camera at the lady who messed with her brain
 
BrainInAJar said:
I thought she'd at least disabled for the mission if she goes down since she'd have to accumulate energy back with just her core, is that not the case? If so we should probably go with no shields then
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Yes, but Scarlet Maturity had to punch her so hard she flew three boroughs over and then hit her with a super-tanker that exploded to get to that point.

It's a good writing-challenge for me to figure out how to make her feel vulnerable, but don't lose sight of who she is.
 
She literally can't die lol. The main risk is just her getting taken out of commission because then we lose like 50% of our firepower, so we just need to opt for force preservation on her part right now.
 
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Temes1066 said:
Black Swan is our heaveist hitter and she has crippling vulnerability to Seraph's powers, she is heavily injured and we need her power to destroy those evil clones of New Dawn.

But fine, we will leave her totally vunerable, but if she dies or others die because she wasn't there, you (@Ferb_Ancos) are 100% to blame.
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Bitterman has said it, BS is invulnerable, they can't kill her. The problem is that she can be incapacitated by Seraph, that is their plan, and the shields are not gonna help with that.
 
I think it has to be Leizi and Handyman for the shields. Valiant Gold is in reality altering armor, she'll be fine. Leizi is just a normal lady durability wise and Handyman has been nearly killed multiple times.
 
Pawn Lelouch said:
Okay anyone object to giving them to Leizi/VG for being the squishy doing peer fighting and fighting the hp draining enemy respectively?
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Give it to Menagerie Witch instead of Valiant Gold, Ellie isn't affected by his drain.

Bitterman said:
Guys . . . Black Swan is Invulnerable. She has taken no damage to her construct body and thus has nothing to heal. The damage was to her brain. She is a top-5 metahuman and Crusade has none.
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Bitterman said:
Yes, but Scarlet Maturity had to punch her so hard she flew three boroughs over and then hit her with a super-tanker that exploded to get to that point.

It's a good writing-challenge for me to figure out how to make her feel vulnerable, but don't lose sight of who she is.
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Two things:
1 Lmao White Hawk is a scrub
2 I thought damage is just damage, regardless of source. You didn't describe her losing parts of her light body but I just assume the damage was reflected onto her body since it's just a power projection anyway. I definitely expected just to abstract the mind/body difference and that she could just die from a successful damage of any sort.
 
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[X] Plan Have Faith
-[X] Yara equips the Shield Generator and Holds the symbiote to use for emergencies on herself or someone else. Position herself away from the windows in case another chains comes to try and kidnap her.
-[X] Have DS put the Hustle on both Chatelet and Belle Sabreuse. Put 1 Shield on Chimera, and 2 on Handyman. Find where that Chain came from and tell MW about to send her Menagerie there. Stay besid Yara and ready to take hits in her place.
-[X] MW makes a Hit Chimera and send it to attack Seraph along with Nevermores to keep her away from Mona. She sends the rest of her Menagerie to flush out the 3rd part that tried to kidnap yara. Stay besid Yara and ready to take hits in her place.
-[X] Belle Sabreuse and Chatelet take on Brass Shield. Belle on Offense using her sword and Power to break the armor. Chatelet on Defense to stop him from taking Yara and give Belle an opening to attack.
-[X] VG on Scissors to take Silvio to the area loaded with C4 and make sure everyone is away from his Range, if thats not enough ever further away. Use Telekinesis to throw him and Taunts to keep his attention. Call him a Thief, Faker, a Parasite, Liar, how steadfast is ashamed of him and hell the fact public is making fanfics about them. Once there try and shut his armor down.
-[X] Handyman and Leizi take on Joules and Ete. Leizi using Lightning to deflect Joules plasma and Handyman Armors himself up with anti flames and pummel ete in H2H.
-[X] Have Mona ignore WH and Absorb SK attacks to regen, keep away from seraph. Support those in the yard by shooting at Stockpile. Work with VG to get Stockpile away from the others and destroy armor by attacking him, slam at him with supersonic dash if she has too. If Horae Guard tries to interfere in the other fights shoot and focus at them instead.

Okay new Plan QM reminder about SM fight means Seraph is the only danger though an extra shield is a good idea. More Importantly Chimera with a shield should be able to handle seraph since it has no Mind. If WH or SK try to attack the shield should be able to protect it for a bit instead of just dispersing.

DS is the only one who can find the 3rd party and the menagerie should be able to flush them out instead of letting them move at their leisure.

Chatelet and Belle are full health and the Hustle on them should be fine for now. They can take on Brass who should have atleast 1 injury.

VG is tje only one that can keep Stockpile away so do that. That leaves leizi and Handyman to try and beat Joules and Ete.

Edit: change it to putting the Shieds mainly on Handyman.
 
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BrainInAJar said:
2 I thought damage is just damage, regardless of source. You didn't describe her losing parts of her light bodies but I just assume the damage was reflected onto her body since it's just a power projection anyway. I definitely expected just to abstract the mind/body difference and that she could just die from a successful damage of any sort.
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Yeah, I kind of thought that too but apparently not. It would have been useful to know about this beforehand.

[X] Plan Have Faith
 
Temes1066 said:
Not really, since apparently keeping our heavy hitter in the fight isn't important.
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My friend, did you even read what we are saying?
Temes1066 said:
Yeah, I kind of thought that too but apparently not. It would have been useful to know about this beforehand.
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It was stated like in the beginning, in her introduction. She can only die by destroying her core, that is as dense as a Black Hole. Not even Scarlet Maturity was able to deal with that.
 
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Temes1066 said:
Not really, since apparently keeping our heavy hitter in the fight isn't important.
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1. Mental attacks wont be stopped by shields so its pretty much useless in that case.
2. Physical attacks are NOT goimg to put her down unless its Scarlet Maturity level. As per Bittermans sayimg so.
3. Well... we only have BS because of a NAT 20. Anything lower and we WOULD be fightimg without her.
 
BrainInAJar said:
2 I thought damage is just damage, regardless of source. You didn't describe her losing parts of her light bodies but I just assume the damage was reflected onto her body since it's just a power projection anyway. I definitely expected just to abstract the mind/body difference and that she could just die from a successful damage of any sort
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Normally yes, but Black Swan is special because she is Invulnerable l. The only way for physical damage to take her down below three injury levels is to deplete her construct self.
 
SolarGemX said:
1. Mental attacks wont be stopped by shields so its pretty much useless in that case.
2. Physical attacks are NOT goimg to put her down unless its Scarlet Maturity level. As per Bittermans sayimg so.
3. Well... we only have BS because of a NAT 20. Anything lower and we WOULD be fightimg without her.
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Yeh Trust the chimera and our nevermores to handle seraph.

BS should be able to heal up from SK since Light Manipulation is nothing but food to her.

Temes1066 said:
Yes, but I do worry about leaving Black Swan (the future leader of Justice Unlimited) vunerable to Seraph's mental attacks (she is after all very vunerable to those)
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Chimera and Nevermores no Minds to affect and can fly to attack Seraph.
 
[X] Plan Have Faith

Leviathans blood we are already in a Warzome arent we? And the Physical fight has not even begun!
 
Kermie's Combat Analysis​

Ok, here's everything we know about this situation.

Justice Unlimited (+Yara & Belle):
  • Win Condition: GTFO with Yara, don't die to the ticking time bomb called Silvio.
  • Leizi is currently on front, keep her safe.
  • Black Swan on critical injury levels mentally, but still extremely powerful. Unable to be taken out by fliers like White Hawk and Sunlight Knight easily. Still vulnerable to Seraph and especially Silvio.
  • MW has a Chimera slot ready, though it will cost one injury level on her part.
  • DS has taken one injury level. He is also vulnerable to Silvio, but to a lesser degree.
  • VG will not be using any ultimates first. She is probably the best to fight Silvio, if only because of narrative.
  • Belle can pierce Silvio's armor well.
Crusade:
  • Win Condition: defeat Justice Unlimited, capture Yara.
  • Perspective, Plasticity, and Ronin have been waylaid by SB clones of Gentleman James and Miss Naught.
  • White Hawk here and dangerous. Weird fixation on Belle.
  • Brass Shield on one injury level, but those mechanics are more light for NPCs. Powers still mostly unknown.
  • Ete and Joules active, can be psychologically messed with.
  • Seraph as decoy? Still a problem for Mona, but not as bad as…
  • Silvio. Can teleport real good. We're on a three Hit check timer before he powers up, offs DS and BS, and then probably TPKs us. We have to get him away somehow.
Socialite Butterfly?:
  • Win Condition: capture and touch Yara.
  • Clones of Miss Naught and Gentleman James confirmed. Wolong clone soft confirmed but out of charges.
  • Dreamcatcher clone and Palisade clone possible.
  • Somewhere in the backyard? Possibly under a "someone else's problem field"
Environment
  • Three areas for this fight: inside, sky, backyard. All combatants are inside, except for SB clones and Crusade reinforcements.
  • We're in the Foot. Apiary a while away, unknown if we can reasonably get there with Nevermores. Vehicles may be trapped.
  • Undetonated C4 in backyard. Tripwires used for triggering off, but still there.
  • Dr. Silver has full awareness of battlefield for our purposes.
 
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Bitterman said:
. . .

Guys . . . Black Swan is Invulnerable. She has taken no damage to her construct body and thus has nothing to heal. The damage was to her brain. She is a top-5 metahuman and Crusade has none.

I'll stop reiterating this point now, but you nearly got Handyman killed in Faustian by giving Mona a shield generator she didn't need instead of giving one to him.
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I can't believe that we've gotten to the point where Bitterman is looking at the camera and saying "what the fuck are you doing", just because of all the plans that are piling up.

Truly, suffering from success.
 
Temes1066 said:
Yes, but I do worry about leaving Black Swan (the future leader of Justice Unlimited) vunerable to Seraph's mental attacks (she is after all very vunerable to those)
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Yeah it's true. That is why I have advocated for support of Chimera to deal with Seraph quickly. The shields don't protect from mental attacks. We don't really have counters aside from VG. That is the reason why some want the next hero to be a psychic of sorts to help counter this kind of stuff.
 
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